Dog beater gets 2 years...............

Locutus

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I did 10 years there and grade 1 in Burks Falls. The olden days.
 

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>implying




other than a coincidence of having lived in North Bay once upon a time, there really isn't much that would make me and gerry 'buddies'. ;-)
that went over your head eh?

soookay...
 

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2 years, he'll be in a provincial prison. As far as prison goes they aren't that bad. I doubt he will stay in the full two years though, maybe one.

Nope. 2 years less a day is provincial. 2 years is the fed.

Far as I know. Only spent a weekend, so maybe I'm wrong. :lol:

I fukin' HATE people like this.


goooooooooooooo Breezy, you won dude!!!

See the pic of Breezy, sitting like a cool dog. Make ya cry. After having the shi t beat out of him. Still likes people. Go fukkin figure.

Beating a dog.... 2 years in a fed pen.

Killing your pre born baby....... pat on the back

Yup, priority's are definitely right on track.

we're talking dogs Gerry. Fukk off.

:lol:..wow so funny...you are hilarious, knee slapping funny

then you need to explain what you are thinking, not put "but still"

good to know, ...your agreement with one of your forum buds was unclear at best. He sees every injustice in the world in terms of abortion. If you agree say so...if not...say so

this thread had nothing to do with abortion or spousal abuse...how it descended into such was the way it always does via the abortion king's comments

thanks for the clarification

gerry's such a dumb fukk, everything has to do with abortion.

First 4 years of my life. Still have family there. Can trace my family back over a 100 years in the North Bay/Calandar area.

Which is why you are the kiunt you are.
 

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I haven't read the thread. Is "dog beater" another euphemism for masturbator?

From the article

"Those who inflict pain on animals, those who are deliberately brutal toward animals will face harsher sentences than in the past, as our society considers this behaviour morally reprehensible," she said.


as opposed to when it is done to a human.

When done to a human it's funny.
 

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Nope. 2 years less a day is provincial. 2 years is the fed.

Far as I know. Only spent a weekend, so maybe I'm wrong. :lol:


Surprised it was only a weekend.



we're talking dogs Gerry. Fukk off.
gerry's such a dumb fukk, everything has to do with abortion.
Which is why you are the kiunt you are.

and which is why you are the mentally and morally bankrupt idiot that you are.
 

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See the pic of Breezy, sitting like a cool dog. Make ya cry. After having the shi t beat out of him. Still likes people. Go fukkin figure.
poor little guy glad someone that is decent has him now and he will have an okey doke life
 

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poor little guy glad someone that is decent has him now and he will have an okey doke life


No doubt... I bet that the pooch will be just fine in a short time and be able to get past the abuse from this idiot.

That said, really no need to waste time and money sending him to prison... His name and pict are published - he'll be getting the extra-special attention that he so richly deserves..... With any luck, for a number of years to come
 

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No doubt... I bet that the pooch will be just fine in a short time and be able to get past the abuse from this idiot.

That said, really no need to waste time and money sending him to prison... His name and pict are published - he'll be getting the extra-special attention that he so richly deserves..... With any luck, for a number of years to come

I don't disagree with that, jail time should be (in my perfect world view) mandatory in situations of child molestation, rape, murder, assault, etc. And it should be very, very lengthy incarcerations, none of this two years less a day, time off for good behaviour garbage. If you want your freedom after committing a horrible offense you should have to earn it.

However, I do think individuals such as the jerk wad in the OP should have very lengthy probation with some really strict conditions. Banned from owning or caring for pets and other animals unsupervised for one, keep him in the community and working 5 days a week but have him also mandated to work at least full days on his 'days off' in some aspect community service that makes a real difference, feeding the homeless or working with abused animals even (under tight supervision of course).
 

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I don't disagree with that, jail time should be (in my perfect world view) mandatory in situations of child molestation, rape, murder, assault, etc. And it should be very, very lengthy incarcerations, none of this two years less a day, time off for good behaviour garbage. If you want your freedom after committing a horrible offense you should have to earn it.

However, I do think individuals such as the jerk wad in the OP should have very lengthy probation with some really strict conditions. Banned from owning or caring for pets and other animals unsupervised for one, keep him in the community and working 5 days a week but have him also mandated to work at least full days on his 'days off' in some aspect community service that makes a real difference, feeding the homeless or working with abused animals even (under tight supervision of course).
I agree.
 

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I don't disagree with that, jail time should be (in my perfect world view) mandatory in situations of child molestation, rape, murder, assault, etc. And it should be very, very lengthy incarcerations, none of this two years less a day, time off for good behaviour garbage. If you want your freedom after committing a horrible offense you should have to earn it.

However, I do think individuals such as the jerk wad in the OP should have very lengthy probation with some really strict conditions. Banned from owning or caring for pets and other animals unsupervised for one, keep him in the community and working 5 days a week but have him also mandated to work at least full days on his 'days off' in some aspect community service that makes a real difference, feeding the homeless or working with abused animals even (under tight supervision of course).

My point is that the real punishment he will experience will originate from the community itself.. I have mentioned in the past an example of a guy that beat the crap out of a cat and how he was (literally) targeted by people in the community that recognized him and his misdeed.

These jerks will be forever associated with their actions and that will have ripple effects in their lives via work, family, personal and the public's perception of them.

That is where buddy will pay the real penalty, and I am all for it
 

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I don't disagree with that, jail time should be (in my perfect world view) mandatory in situations of child molestation, rape, murder, assault, etc. And it should be very, very lengthy incarcerations, none of this two years less a day, time off for good behaviour garbage. If you want your freedom after committing a horrible offense you should have to earn it.

However, I do think individuals such as the jerk wad in the OP should have very lengthy probation with some really strict conditions. Banned from owning or caring for pets and other animals unsupervised for one, keep him in the community and working 5 days a week but have him also mandated to work at least full days on his 'days off' in some aspect community service that makes a real difference, feeding the homeless or working with abused animals even (under tight supervision of course).

Absolutely SLM. I would like to know how he got the way he is. Beating the hell out of the dog and then throwing it in the dumpster tells me that he either thought the dog was dead or didn't care. If he didn't care, why did he have the dog in the first place? Owning an animal is a privilege, not a right. As far as not owning a dog for twenty five years.......make that for life....I doubt he will change....I would hate to see this shi t happen again.
 

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My point is that the real punishment he will experience will originate from the community itself.. I have mentioned in the past an example of a guy that beat the crap out of a cat and how he was (literally) targeted by people in the community that recognized him and his misdeed.

These jerks will be forever associated with their actions and that will have ripple effects in their lives via work, family, personal and the public's perception of them.

That is where buddy will pay the real penalty, and I am all for it

Sure, but I think in the overall big picture, we need a mindset change in how we deal with criminal offenders. Right now we have jail. And that's pretty much it, aside from rare instances of probation which are mostly because it's a first offense or the prisons are over crowded. Personally I'd like to see us head into a direction that fleshes out probation and community service in appropriate circumstances. It should be appropriately restrictive enough for those like the guy in the OP who probably don't give much of a damn what other people think of him and won't be shamed by anything anyhow and allow those who will feel remorse an opportunity to earn their redemption.

There's that old saying of 'paying your debt to society', well that really isn't served by prison time. Not really. And it's not for every and all circumstances, definitely not for those who prey upon others as I mentioned in my other post. But for those situations where it is appropriate, I think it can do some good for the individual and for society as a whole.

But it does require a rethink and quite a big one in how we deal with those who break the rules.
 

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Sure, but I think in the overall big picture, we need a mindset change in how we deal with criminal offenders. Right now we have jail. And that's pretty much it, aside from rare instances of probation which are mostly because it's a first offense or the prisons are over crowded. Personally I'd like to see us head into a direction that fleshes out probation and community service in appropriate circumstances. It should be appropriately restrictive enough for those like the guy in the OP who probably don't give much of a damn what other people think of him and won't be shamed by anything anyhow and allow those who will feel remorse an opportunity to earn their redemption.

There's that old saying of 'paying your debt to society', well that really isn't served by prison time. Not really. And it's not for every and all circumstances, definitely not for those who prey upon others as I mentioned in my other post. But for those situations where it is appropriate, I think it can do some good for the individual and for society as a whole.

But it does require a rethink and quite a big one in how we deal with those who break the rules.

are you going to mandate heavy counselling in these cases?

I would rather they stay in lockdown at home and have mandatory counselling and evaluation and have to handle abused animals when they have made a step or two forward

I know the stance won't be popular but this guy was likely beaten from childhood...he needs reform because otherwise in two years he is going to be beating on his girlfriend and their babies...it's a given.
 

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Absolutely SLM. I would like to know how he got the way he is.

Yeah, I often wonder when hearing about people like this where their humanity is. I mean, as bad as someone can be, there has to be someone, somewhere they've cared about, loved even. How and where did it get lost?

Beating the hell out of the dog and then throwing it in the dumpster tells me that he either thought the dog was dead or didn't care. If he didn't care, why did he have the dog in the first place? Owning an animal is a privilege, not a right. As far as not owning a dog for twenty five years.......make that for life....I doubt he will change....I would hate to see this shi t happen again.
It's easy to write them off and maybe they are a write off, who knows. But I think if we fashion a system of punishment for transgressions other than prison we at least have a chance of realizing redemption potentially. If they don't, well then we've at least seen some kind of productivity from them as opposed to feeding and housing them for a couple of years.

are you going to mandate heavy counselling in these cases?

I would rather they stay in lockdown at home and have mandatory counselling and evaluation and have to handle abused animals when they have made a step or two forward

I know the stance won't be popular but this guy was likely beaten from childhood...he needs reform because otherwise in two years he is going to be beating on his girlfriend and their babies...it's a given.

I don't know, I mean, those are details and before you can even begin to think about specifics like that we have to start looking at the whole picture in a very different way.

For any probation, you have restrictions. Curfews, monitoring cuffs, counselling, work placements (particularly in volunteer organizations...they are all volunteers anyway, no one is losing a job over it), monetary reparations, etc. It's an outside of the box (or I guess the jail cell) way of looking at things I suppose. But I figure, for the most part what we do now isn't really working, so what the hell have we got to loose?
 

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Yeah, I often wonder when hearing about people like this where their humanity is. I mean, as bad as someone can be, there has to be someone, somewhere they've cared about, loved even. How and where did it get lost?
he came from an environment where love was twisted and that's what he learned

he didn't get this way living in a warm nurturing loving environment...and neither did people who only seek revenge and punishment as options

I've seen kids well along on this road by the time they are five. What saves kids like this is being around people who are there for the kid not to get their own needs met via the kid.


For any probation, you have restrictions. Curfews, monitoring cuffs, counselling, work placements (particularly in volunteer organizations...they are all volunteers anyway, no one is losing a job over it), monetary reparations, etc. It's an outside of the box (or I guess the jail cell) way of looking at things I suppose. But I figure, for the most part what we do now isn't really working, so what the hell have we got to loose?
no it doesn't work because trying to break down something which is already broken doesn't work for it's benefit nor for the benefit of the society it will re-enter...it's needs to be repaired...the sooner we get on board with that the less it will cost us and the safer our society will be