Does it make a difference who the next Pedophile Protecting Pope will be?
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I don't see them and if I did how would I know they are reputable? Do people who spread crap care where they get it from?
I don't need to be convinced of the authenticity of the events- I live in an area that had such schools and actually knew people who attended. I don't need to be convinced of the rottenous of the perpetrators. It's just all quite a leap from the subject of Ben's retirement.
You forget what the Bible itself says of the proud heritage of those of my avatars ilk.
Genesis 3:1
- Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made.
I do not claim wisdom but do claim to know injustice when I see it.
God punished it as he has punished me through apotheosis but he did not effect the snakes mind.
Regards
DL
JLM
If Canada and our legal system were what they should be, the Pope would be retiring in jail.
Regards
DL
As soon as you start quoting Old Testament, your logic is suspect! What did the Pope do to earn a stint in the pokey?
Just one of half a dozen f**king nuts running rampant on the forum. I guess while he's blabbering Teddy isn't! -
"A pedophile proting pope lover are you?"
What is "proting"?
The fact that no one in our government has ever faced time for the many atrocities visited upon natives, that assorted institutions have gotten away in the past with shuffling members who've abused children, and that many CURRENT child abuse cases get ignored and/or leniently prosecuted, proves that we do not have the best legal system in the world. The church isn't alone in having dodged justice, and regardless of what reforms it institutes, it certainly won't suddenly create a right and just legal system that serves every victim well.
But what's your point ultimately?
Would jailing the pope do a damn thing to correct what was done? Is he the one who did it? Is he the one who pulled the strings, moved people around, shuffled them under the carpet?
No.
The only way that victims will be well served is by the actual people responsible being rooted out and brought to justice, not a figure head, and by the institution changing the way it does business in the future. A sacrificial goat is meaningless.
I'm attaching a link just to dispel any ideas that this is problem that has never been addressed. This case happened within 30 miles of where I lived for many years.
77-year old pedophile sentenced to 11 years | Windspeaker - AMMSA: Indigenous news, issues and culture.
First of all this Pope was in the Hitler Youth. Did that make him a Nazi?
The head of Hitlers Abwehr was in charge of Intelligence during WWII
but history has found he was not a Nazi.
This Pope has taken heat for his lack of aggressiveness with regard to errant
Priests and that is fair game I guess.
But to suggest that this Pope or any future Pope is condoning Pedophile
activity is pure nonsense and goes beyond serious criticism.
I was once said when you set out to securely define others you often define
yourself. If you use only negativity to define others you don't make much of
an impact.
The head of Hitlers Abwehr was in charge of Intelligence during WWII
but history has found he was not a Nazi.
This Pope has taken heat for his lack of aggressiveness with regard to errant
Priests and that is fair game I guess.
But to suggest that this Pope or any future Pope is condoning Pedophile
activity is pure nonsense and goes beyond serious criticism.
I was once said when you set out to securely define others you often define
yourself. If you use only negativity to define others you don't make much of
an impact.
You hit the nail right on the head. You ever notice that with some people you can predict pretty near exactly what they are going to say even if you don't know much about the subject they are commenting on? I recognize names on other forums, where if the subject of Stephen Harper, Christy Clark or Barack Obama comes up you know pretty well what it's going to be and generally their comments are 100% in favour or 100% against and they can't see how ridiculous they look. Most of us are right about 50% - 75% of the time.-
It is my understanding that if you were a youth in Germany in the late 30s, you were automatically invited to become a Hitler Youth. I believe most people accepted the invitation preferring to remain alive.
Now here's where my jaded nature regarding figure heads shows.
When you have any large institution, very rarely is the person 'in charge of it', the one who is actually calling the shots and running the show on a daily basis. Especially when it's an institution whose figurehead is meant to be infallible. In order to maintain that image, you give the dirty work to other people. And when electing a pope, I'm sure who's been involved in what dirty dealings, factors in to the selection.
Yes, jaded, but there it is.
But I wouldn't be surprised after Hitler and his gang were dead a few of these youths changed their philosophy. I know I'd be inclined to take a second look.
I would agree that the Pope should be aware of such a monumental problem and also know how it's being addressed and probably have a second in command that he can call to be apprised of the situation from time to time, BUT should he really be any closer to it than say the Prime Minister or the head honcho of the R.C.M.P.?
I'm not sure when the very last offending residential school was closed or even what percentage of residential schools were guilty, but by and large the bulk of the problem was over by the 1980s, so if the Pope were to be blamed it should one or two or three popes back.
He was a member of Hitler youth though; of course, that means absolutely nothing other than the fact that he was alive and a child during the third Reich. But some people have few scruples about any actual meaning and take such a mandatory membership to mean whatever they want.
The church is unique in being capable and inclined to use diplomatic immunity to shield its clergy of investigations into child abuse. They are also unique in being offended when a national investigation doesn't accept the shield of diplomatic immunity.
Keep the Faith: Wikileaks: Vatican Used Diplomatic Immunity to Avoid Questions about Child-abuse in Ireland
This makes the entire sovereignty of the Vatican seem tainted by any who view child abuse as a more serious matter than diplomatic independence.
Given all of this, the victims would in fact be well served by the Vatican being stripped of such diplomatic powers in countries where it wishes to operate as a charity.
So far, Malachy, the bookie from Armagh, is on a roll.
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