Do you identify yourself more provincially or federally?

[Jay]

It would depend on who I'm talking to. Someone from a foreign land I'm a Canadian, other wise I'm An Ontarian. We have a large history over here that predates Confederation and the current Canada, so I suppose I'm an Ontarian first and a Canadian second. Besides if Canada falls apart, that is all that is left for me.

 

[Reverend Blair]

I've lived four different provinces but I am a Canadian. I am always a Canadian first. Maybe being a Quebecer, or an Albertan, or a Manitoban first, is part of our problem.

Undoubtedly. I can kind of undertand Quebecois feeling that they must place their province first because of their history, although I don't agree with the sentiment. I can even understand it in Newfoundlanders. I cannot understand it in those from other provinces though. We share much more than separates us and our provincial histories and heritages make little sense outside of the context of Canada as a whole.

 

[#juan]

You know Rev,

This is a subject that I shouldn't get into because it's bad for my blood pressure. Quebec joined Canada with a fraction of the land that they now have. Federal money paid for massive hydro projects that are bringing large amounts of money to that province. We have had two recent referendums concerning the separation of Quebec but the federal governments of the time somehow failed to tell Quebec that they could only leave with what they brought with them when they joined Canada. This seems like a reasonable position to me. Why is it never brought up?

 

[Boydfish]

RE: Do you identify yours

British Columbian first and foremost. I tend to see the "Canadian" thing as less a function of nationality than simply an association of like minded nationalities.

I'd see identifying myself as "Canadian" would be like a person from Denmark referring to themself as a "European Unionian" or a person from Australia referring to themselves as "United Nationian".

 

[#juan]

I'd see identifying myself as "Canadian" would be like a person from Denmark referring to themself as a "European Unionian" or a person from Australia referring to themselves as "United Nationian".

In a word, horseshit.

Canada means a lot to real Canadians, and it means a lot to a good part of the world. Go to Dieppe, or Utrecht, or Arnhem, or Neimegan, or Vimy, where tens of thousands of Canadians from every corner of the country are buried from two world wars. Or read about Korea where the PPCLI was given a unit citation by the U.S. govrnment, the only country to receive that honour. If you.ve just come to Canada, I suggest you keep this particular stupidity to yourself.

 

[Reverend Blair]

This is a subject that I shouldn't get into because it's bad for my blood pressure. Quebec joined Canada with a fraction of the land that they now have. Federal money paid for massive hydro projects that are bringing large amounts of money to that province. We have had two recent referendums concerning the separation of Quebec but the federal governments of the time somehow failed to tell Quebec that they could only leave with what they brought with them when they joined Canada. This seems like a reasonable position to me. Why is it never brought up?

I agree, Juan. If they are to vote to leave Canada, they should understand exactly what they are voting for. That means that native groups should have a say too...they have treaties with Ottawa, not the province. Once the negotiations start, it should (assuming Canadian negotiators do as they should) become very clear that Quebec can either be a very small, poor country; or they can be a relatively well off province. Then let 'em vote.

 

[Boydfish]

RE: Do you identify yours

In a word, horseshit.

Wow! Your well thought out and well reasoned argument has won me over!

The word you learned today is "sarcasm". Tell your friends on the short yellow bus you clearly ride home on.

Canada means a lot to real Canadians

Did I say that it didn't? I said I'm a British Columbian.

Go to Dieppe, or Utrecht, or Arnhem, or Neimegan, or Vimy, where tens of thousands of Canadians from every corner of the country are buried from two world wars. Or read about Korea where the PPCLI was given a unit citation by the U.S. govrnment, the only country to receive that honour.

Been to all of those places and understand the history of all of it far better than you, clearly.

You mentioning the PPCLI unit citation is especially laughable, considering the US awarded it because the troops in the PPCLI are and were mainly drawn from the western provinces and the Canadians were reluctant to honour anybody who wasn't from Upper or Lower Canada in any way, shape or form.

If you.ve just come to Canada, I suggest you keep this particular stupidity to yourself.

Nope. Was born in Ontario to a naturalized British Columbian who was temporarily living there due to business. Moved to BC at a young age and only really feel at home in British Columbia.

 

[Said1]

The first thing that comes to me is that I'm a WestSider,then, a resident of Saint John and Canadian.

That's me to a tee, c'ept I'm a "westend girl" from Ottawa. We rock ya know.

 

[Jovey]

Definately Canadian first.

Every province/territory has it's own unique beauty and qualities that together make this country special. Divided, we really wouldn't compare.

Besides, if I gloated that I was from Ontario, people may just mistake me for a Californian.

 

[Colpy]

Hey Missile!

I'm an transplanted north ender living on Woodville Road on the west side of Saint John.

Lived in the Rifle Range for 14 years, up until 2000.

On another subject, I see myself as Canadian first.....but I could get to like Boydfish. But I don't think he'll be here long. LMAO at his post above.

 

[prairieboy]

I am Western Canadian.

The maritimes are beautiful. Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, P.E.I. They have more culture than Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba.
Approximately 200 years more.

British Columbia Also a beautiful Province. However everyone lives in a Delta. There is another 95 % of the province to explore.

Ontario & Quebec, these provinces are simply corrupt, where a large percentage of their population are not even first generation Canadians. Yet they control the vote of Canada.

Therefore I do not consider myself a part of Ontario or Quebec.

 

[Reverend Blair]

So are you saying that my grandfather shouldn't have had the right to vote because his parents moved here after he was born?

 

[missile]

Re: RE: Do you identify yourself more provincially or federa

Hey Missile!

I'm an transplanted north ender living on Woodville Road on the west side of Saint John.

Lived in the Rifle Range for 14 years, up until 2000.

On another subject, I see myself as Canadian first.....but I could get to like Boydfish. But I don't think he'll be here long. LMAO at his post above.

I used to deliver mail in the range for some years I'm not far from you..Rodney St.

 

[Jay]

You know Rev,

This is a subject that I shouldn't get into because it's bad for my blood pressure. Quebec joined Canada with a fraction of the land that they now have. Federal money paid for massive hydro projects that are bringing large amounts of money to that province. We have had two recent referendums concerning the separation of Quebec but the federal governments of the time somehow failed to tell Quebec that they could only leave with what they brought with them when they joined Canada. This seems like a reasonable position to me. Why is it never brought up?

None of the provinces, that had land given to them from the Feds, are renting that land.

 

[Said1]

Therefore I do not consider myself a part of Ontario or Quebec.

Wonderful conclusion to your thesis boy. Do you often get confused for an easterner?

 

[TenPenny]

Re: RE: Do you identify yourself more provincially or federa

Hey Missile!

I'm an transplanted north ender living on Woodville Road on the west side of Saint John.

Lived in the Rifle Range for 14 years, up until 2000.

On another subject, I see myself as Canadian first.....but I could get to like Boydfish. But I don't think he'll be here long. LMAO at his post above.

I used to deliver mail in the range for some years I'm not far from you..Rodney St.

Well I drive through the rifle range every day, and work on the west side, does that count?