Do Conservatives believe in Creationism?

How do you think Life got to where it is today?


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Finder

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Well in Canada and in western Europe the Guild Socialist, Social democratic, Labour parties (including the NDP) have there orgins, in Chrsitian socialism. Tommy Douglas who was voted Canada's greatest Canadian, who ran the first socialist government in North America, and is a founder of the NDP and a leader of the CCF, who was the driving force behind puplic health care in Canada was a Minister in the Baptist Church.

humph *sigh* wish the NDP would go closer to it's own roots.

http://www.cbc.ca/greatest/top_ten/nominee/douglas-tommy.html
 

Basic

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#juan said:
"There are several aspects to the theory that just don't fit together", Dr. Harvey claims. "Penguins, for example. Why would any intelligent being design such a bird, unless as a cruel joke". Harvey claims that the birds awkward motions and inability to fly are not intelligent at all. "In fact, Dr. Harvey continues, "this bird is the work of a total moron".

That statement proves Harvey's ignorance about the penguin. The penguin is perfectly suited to his environment. The penguin can swim better and faster than most fish which are it's prey. In the water, where they spend most of their time, they are anything but awkward.
They also have the ability to simply survive in some of the harshest conditions on our planet. I, too, would say that they are very well suited.
 

pastafarian

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Basic wrote:
nitzomoe wrote:
i dont believe in creationsim or evolution, theres a lot of evidence to refute both arguments.

What else is there?
hmmmmmmm.... you ..... could.... believe.... that... aliens planted us here?


Yabbut, explain where the aliens came from...
I'm all ears :)
 

Nosferax

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Finder said:
Basic said:
nitzomoe said:
i dont believe in creationsim or evolution, theres a lot of evidence to refute both arguments.
What else is there?



hmmmmmmm.... you ..... could.... believe.... that... aliens planted us here?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Personaly I believe life began in an old forgotten jar of mayo in a fridge somewhere... :twisted:
 

Calberty

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In Time Magazine this week:

When asked what Canadian the NDP leader admired the most.

answer: the Reverand Tommy Douglas. A Bible-toting minister.
 

Jay

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I found this...

http://godscopybook.blogs.com/gpb/2005/02/homosexuality_i.html


"Let It Bleed" has this fascinating quote from the "Greatest Canadian," Tommy Douglas. Imagine if Brian Mulroney had said this in 1968, he would have been hounded for decades.

What makes the viewing a good time, though, comes around 6:24 into it. Tommy Douglas, who is evidently, I swear I am not making this up, the Greatest Canadian, hits us with this zinger:

"Instead of treating [homosexuality] as a crime and driving it underground we ought to recognize it for what it is. It's a mental illness; it's a psychiatric condition which ought to be treated sympathetically, which ought to be treated by psychiatrists and social workers."

Nice. So the Douglasite reason for decriminalizing homosexuality was that the jails shouldn't be filled with persons who properly belonged in mental institutions. Gosh, Tommy, the CBC barely mentioned this whole aspect of your social policy...


:lol:
 

Uncle_Jalapeno

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Jay said:
I found this...

http://godscopybook.blogs.com/gpb/2005/02/homosexuality_i.html


"Let It Bleed" has this fascinating quote from the "Greatest Canadian," Tommy Douglas. Imagine if Brian Mulroney had said this in 1968, he would have been hounded for decades.

What makes the viewing a good time, though, comes around 6:24 into it. Tommy Douglas, who is evidently, I swear I am not making this up, the Greatest Canadian, hits us with this zinger:

"Instead of treating [homosexuality] as a crime and driving it underground we ought to recognize it for what it is. It's a mental illness; it's a psychiatric condition which ought to be treated sympathetically, which ought to be treated by psychiatrists and social workers."

Nice. So the Douglasite reason for decriminalizing homosexuality was that the jails shouldn't be filled with persons who properly belonged in mental institutions. Gosh, Tommy, the CBC barely mentioned this whole aspect of your social policy...


:lol:

You have to remember that this was in 1968. There are people in the States today that think being gay and practising the gay lifestyle should be illegal. Some extreme right wingers even believe it is ok to murder gay people. Give Tommy a break, what he said wasn't that bad.
 

Jay

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Of course we have to give Tommy a break. :roll: But we shouldn't cut Harper and such any.

If Mulroney said something like this then, we would still be hearing about it from the left. And that's a fact folks.

The left likes to pretend their all squeaky clean, and hides things like this under the rug and when we find out about it, we have to cut him some slack? I think we should soak this for all it's worth just like the left does to us. Sorry folks....Tommy was a bible thumping homophobe, who wanted to institutionalize gays, deal with it.


How many of you old folk thought like Tommy did in 1968?
 

#juan

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Do Conservatives believe in Creationism?

Does a bear poop in the woods?
 

Jay

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:)

Yes they are.


But now we know about where they poop. :)
 

markglaab

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Ridicule, the new science!!!

Well I see that scorn is alive and well. It would seem that all evolutionary science needs for defense is ridicule. Ridicule passes as the new replacement for hypothesis and testing.
I’ve been reading you people and realized quickly that you have absolutely NO IDEA what the debate between evolution and Intelligent Design is all about nor the facts supporting it. It’s maddening, so let me set the record straight for you why there is still debate and belief in Intelligent Design.
People who believe in God outnumber Atheists by over 10 to 1 worldwide so don’t act like it is a surprise that people believe in a creator God.
As for science, science has not proved there is a NOT a God, it simply first Pre-supposes that there is not a God. This is already on dubious philosophical territory, not lab science.
Looking at scientific facts, evolution is not the slam dunk you think. Biologists are finding biological mechanisms that defy accidental appearance through mutations because they have just too many moving parts. An example is the phlagellum on some bacteria, a tail that spins for propulsion with some 40 working parts. The rotor and bushings rival any modern man-made machine for efficiency. To imagine that a genetic defect accidentally creates one or two parts is possible, when you get over 10, it is becoming hard to believe. When you suggest that accidental mutations can create over 20 working parts we are becoming unbelievable. Then you reach a number like 40 inter-related parts of one machine where all parts are perfectly designed, necessary and the entire system fails if even 1 part is defective.
At this point you can scoff, sneer and ridicule the researchers all you like. That does not pass a reasonable argument against the scientists who make these discoveries believing there was a designer. When you say that 40 complex parts or mechanisms for one specific machine can arise by pure chance, you are the one who now has RELIGIOUS belief!!!
This is only one example of thousands of scientific facts that make more sense in light of a Designer/Creator.
The next time you want to ridicule, do some reading first.
 

Unforgiven

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Some people can jump to the conclusion that there is no possible way that an invisible man in the sky could not exist and control everything with nothing more than the suggestion of it by someone they don't even know. Yet show them all the evidence pointing to evolution and all of a sudden, they can't believe in even the basic laws of science.

To promote the idea that no one can prove conclusively that there is no God, thus it must be that there is a God, is the clearest evidence that they have exactly no idea of what they are talking about.

Go ahead an prove I'm not your God. I'll be back later to listen to you humble yourself before your master.