Disrespected

[xzander]

well... thats not an option for me because of my beliefs, which is why I do find it troubling that one cannot
exercise his values without encuring some fee. Its like a making marriage a business transaction.

 

[gerryh]

well... thats not an option for me because of my beliefs, which is why I do find it troubling that one cannot
exercise his values without encuring some fee. Its like a making marriage a business transaction.

ok....and the cost of a marriage license is that far out of reach for you? SHyte....the cost of the wedding will dwarf the cost of the license. You'll probably spend more on the church/minister/organist.

 

[xzander]

It is not the cost that bothers me, just that the government sees a chance to profit and does not hesitate to exploit it, for me it cheapens the experience that I have to pay to have a wife.
They are borderline pimps.

 

[Scott Free]

It is not the cost that bothers me, just that the government sees a chance to profit and does not hesitate to exploit it, for me it cheapens the experience that I have to pay to have a wife.
They are borderline pimps.

I agree with you 100%

Why not print up your own licence along with an agreement (perhaps with your vows printed on it)?

The government doesn't have any authority beyond its ability for violence. So if you and your wife are happy with the agreement then your marriage will be based on your mutual authority over yourselves. I would think that should be a lot better anyway. It's even much more romantic I would think.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Its like a making marriage a business transaction.

It's not "like" it at all, that's exactly what it is. A marriage is a civil contract under the laws of the jurisdiction it happens in, it gives you certain legally defined rights and obligations regarding each other, grounds for dissolution of the contract if you fail to meet the terms, and rules for settling things up if that happens. There's no disrespect involved at all, the license is just to ensure both parties are legally entitled to enter into such a contract with each other. You can't do it with a sibling, for instance, and you can't do it when you're 12 years old, for good and sensible reasons.

 

[Vanni Fucci]

The total cost of my marriage was $250...that included the license and service fee from the marriage commissioner...

I laugh at people that go into debt to get married...

Praxius' situation is different...I'm not laughing about that...

 

[gerryh]

It is not the cost that bothers me, just that the government sees a chance to profit and does not hesitate to exploit it, for me it cheapens the experience that I have to pay to have a wife.
They are borderline pimps.

You don't have to pay. I've already pointed out how.

 

[karrie]

... but if a license is needed than yes I'll pay a hidden tax so that all Canadians can marry when so desired....

It is not the cost that bothers me, just that the government sees a chance to profit and does not hesitate to exploit it, for me it cheapens the experience that I have to pay to have a wife.
They are borderline pimps.

You kind of contradict yourself. You think the gov is exploiting, but, you'd see them just hide that tax away? Then even people who have no intention of marrying will have to pay for the marriage licenses of people who do. That's doesn't strike me as very fair. And as for being borderline pimps... no... they're borderline legal secretaries is what they are. Because when a marriage goes sour, or when tax relief is sought, or when name changes are wanting to be put through at the licensing center, the legal contract of your marriage is important proof for the services you expect from your gov.

 

[xzander]

well if they are going to charge for it, I would rather it be hidden because in principle
i would rather not know what I'm paying for, I indeed would rather it not be needed at all.
I do not rquire my government to acknowledge my marriage they decided for me,
My word my vow is all God requires and it is good enough for me, and Him but not them.

 

[karrie]

I bet when it comes time that your life is near its end, and you want to make sure your wife gets all those nice little things like your insurance, your pension, you will understand why it is the government wants it registered and recognized, with no room for legal confusion, who your wife is.

 

[gerryh]

well if they are going to charge for it, I would rather it be hidden because in principle
i would rather not know what I'm paying for, I indeed would rather it not be needed at all.
I do not rquire my government to acknowledge my marriage they decided for me,
My word my vow is all God requires and it is good enough for me, and Him but not them.

If your word is good enough for you and your God....then why do you need to get a marriage licence from the government?

 

[xzander]

thats exactly my point, why? A license is required for permission to do something, why should we need the governments ok, to do something that is morally and spirtually correct.

 

[gerryh]

thats exactly my point, why? A license is required for permission to do something, why should we need the governments ok, to do something that is morally and spirtually correct.

and I've pointed out how you DON'T have to pay for a license and still be considered married...after a certain amount of time..... so what exactly is the problem... you don't want to pay for a license...then don't.

 

[karrie]

thats exactly my point, why? A license is required for permission to do something, why should we need the governments ok, to do something that is morally and spirtually correct.

you don't... you can 'marry' your wife without having to do a single thing. Step over a broomstick with her if you like. You'll be married, and after a year the gov will consider you to be as well, regardless of 'permission'. Easy peasy.

 

[darkbeaver]

The government is the upper management of a corporation called Canada. They grow and manage us and we produce for them. We are their revenue stream and such "service fees" are one way they collect from us. Like plump fat little aphids they more us around from leaf to leaf and squeeze us when they want money. There is a law against profiting from service fees but as you would expect, the government ignores it.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

thats exactly my point, why? A license is required for permission to do something, why should we need the governments ok, to do something that is morally and spirtually correct.

Hi , could I ask a personal question, thanks. What does your partner think about the marriage licence?