Day Care is for KIDS!!

Reverend Blair

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RE: Day Care is for KIDS!

Ah, more nonsensical bullshit from the right. We've come expect a lack of substance from you guys, but the election seems to have driven you into a frenzy of vacuous absurdity.
 

Jay

Executive Branch Member
Jan 7, 2005
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Ah, it's just light humour....I don't even like popcorn.
 

MMMike

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Mar 21, 2005
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I'm quite serious Rev. It is a fact that parents have a hard time finding good babysitters that they can trust and afford. There have been cases in the past when babysitters have done bad things. To me it is clear this is a situation the government should deal with. The private sector just isn't stepping up here. Kids have a right to high quality babysitting, do they not?
 

Said1

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Apr 18, 2005
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missile said:
My daughter has 2 children and had a hard time getting off Welfare because most jobs she could get paid far too little to pay for the daycare. It took until they reached schoolage for her to take a real job.So,paid daycare would have taken her off welfare 4 years sooner.

No childcare subsidies or subsidized spots in your area? What about homecare, no subsidies for that either?
 

TenPenny

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Re: RE: Day Care is for KIDS!

Reverend Blair said:
, offers no regulation to ensure that for-profit daycares are not abusive or neglectful towards children in the name of increased profits,

Like that one in Edmonton where the mom arrived to pick up her daughter and found the place closed and locked, and she could hear her baby inside crying? Let me tell you, if that happened to me, it wouldn't take me more than 10 minutes to get inside.

Good childcare is hard to find. It's got to be one of the most important things in life, to make sure your children are going to be properly cared for; isn't that one of the reasons that it's hard to find a good spouse?

No matter what BS the government of the day comes up with, good childcare will be hard to find. It's not easy finding a good school, so why would childcare be any different. Throwing money around doesn't necessarily accomplish anything. There are a bunch of issues you have to consider - the scheduling has to be what fits your needs; the environment has to be safe and acceptable, and the cost has to be within your means. Those factors are quite different for each person; I know places that are totally inflexible, as in, you have to pay for 5 days/week of use, no matter how much you need. I know people who treat the children like members of their own family.
 

Calberty

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". There are a bunch of issues you have to consider ,,;

Don't worry, the governmnet is great at figuring out details. After all. look at the Gun Registry. :wink:

A government that can't file a piece of paper is going to make sure some kid gets on the right bus? 8O
 

Karlin

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Jun 27, 2004
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Re: Harper's faulty social vision

Harper's faulty social vision:
" $1200 won't pay for quality childcare if there is no childcare system."


http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewFeature5.cfm?REF=603

The choice factor fails in this case because the choices are not real choices. A family cannot choose formal quality child care if formal quality child care is not available.

So the choice comes down to a babysitter or a neighbour who takes children into her home. Harper's so-called "choices" would leave families to stumble on with inadequate arrangements for care of their children while they work.

As Mindelle Jabobs put it in a column in the Edmonton Sun, "[$1200] might buy winter clothes and boots for the kids, but it certainly won't make an iota of difference for families hunting for quality day care, or for those who'd prefer to have one parent stay at home."

Thats the point - no day care centres will exist if they only have the $100/mo. Harper is giving. The parents could double or triple that amount, kicking in another $200/mo., but beyond that, its getting back to the minimum wage = $800/mo so $200 off that, gee I might as well stay home. [quick math, for eg. only]

Day cares are not abundant because there is not much money in running them...
Is this how it works, generally? :
$300/mo.per child times "How many kids do you want one caregiver to take care of?" = about 10, so 3 employees and 30 kids a day times $300 = $9000/mo. <<< and the "Day Care as a Business" accountants don't find much profit.

A program of day care subsidy will help the most people, provide more equality of child care, and allow most kids to get the benefits of this social time at an early age and allow Moms and Dads to both work and thats good for the whole economy they say so lets do it eh?
 

manda

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300.00 a month per Kid?! I wish, It was close to 200.00 a week for me. I feel that the Child Tax Credit shoud be re-evaluated, and never mind this 1200 dolloar crap, or daycare spots. Who wouldn't rather have their family watch the children if there was money availible for food and such, rather than a subsidised spot in a daycare center. Having done both, I rather my kids with family
 

Said1

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Re: RE: Day Care is for KIDS!!

manda said:
300.00 a month per Kid?! I wish, It was close to 200.00 a week for me. I feel that the Child Tax Credit shoud be re-evaluated, and never mind this 1200 dolloar crap, or daycare spots. Who wouldn't rather have their family watch the children if there was money availible for food and such, rather than a subsidised spot in a daycare center. Having done both, I rather my kids with family

You kids can be with family if they feel like registering with an agency - they'll get paid fairly decently too. It's a pain though, but worth the effort in the long run.