Darwin Day
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It should be presented in schools rev, everyone should be presented with all facts, and than they can decide for themselves what they believe. Trouble there are people out there that don't want you to think for yourself.
What I despise about it, is how it is used to munipulate ignorant uneducated people. And you don't have to attend school to educate yourself. The munipulation is used for greed and personal wealth and power. I still greatly admire isaac asimov's essay on how religion is used by people in postions of power. He must have shook his head, but he could still look up in the night sky and know the truth
I don't care if you pray to a paper cup!! or that is your god! As long as you don't think you are a god
What I despise about it, is how it is used to munipulate ignorant uneducated people. And you don't have to attend school to educate yourself. The munipulation is used for greed and personal wealth and power. I still greatly admire isaac asimov's essay on how religion is used by people in postions of power. He must have shook his head, but he could still look up in the night sky and know the truth
I don't care if you pray to a paper cup!! or that is your god! As long as you don't think you are a god
Or Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land.
The other thing that should be required reading is Greg Bear's "Darwin's Radio." It's really cool.
The other thing that should be required reading is Greg Bear's "Darwin's Radio." It's really cool.
"It should be presented in schools rev, everyone should be presented with all facts, and than they can decide for themselves what they believe. Trouble there are people out there that don't want you to think for yourself."
Is that why they took religion out of public schools, so we could have all the facts?
Is that why they took religion out of public schools, so we could have all the facts?
Is that why they took religion out of public schools, so we could have all the facts?
The last time I looked around there is a church on every street corner, last time I turned the television on it was pretty easy to find someone begging for money for the "supreme" one. Funny how he never has any cash. Your message is everywhere, so please do not use the equal coverage thing, you have more than your fair share.
In a "free" society there is more than enough room for all points of view. Why does it frighten you if people look and read all views. Are you saying we are all "sheep" and cannot come to our "own" conclusion.
Here is your big chance to shine Jay. Take marshall gauvins essay that fucci (I wonder if he wears gucci) posted ^^^^^^^there a few posts up. Put it up on the board here, and refute it point by point.
A word to the wise tho...I think fucci and a few others know your book a little better than you do. But please I am opened mined please show me where mr. marshall is wrong in what he presents.
So Jay I offically ask both you and tibear to put up Marshall Gauvins essay and refute it point by point. Hey than you post an essay on someone of your choice someone could refute it point by point. Now if you don't take this challenge....well that is going to tell us something nes pas?
The last time I looked around there is a church on every street corner, last time I turned the television on it was pretty easy to find someone begging for money for the "supreme" one. Funny how he never has any cash. Your message is everywhere, so please do not use the equal coverage thing, you have more than your fair share.
In a "free" society there is more than enough room for all points of view. Why does it frighten you if people look and read all views. Are you saying we are all "sheep" and cannot come to our "own" conclusion.
Here is your big chance to shine Jay. Take marshall gauvins essay that fucci (I wonder if he wears gucci) posted ^^^^^^^there a few posts up. Put it up on the board here, and refute it point by point.
A word to the wise tho...I think fucci and a few others know your book a little better than you do. But please I am opened mined please show me where mr. marshall is wrong in what he presents.
So Jay I offically ask both you and tibear to put up Marshall Gauvins essay and refute it point by point. Hey than you post an essay on someone of your choice someone could refute it point by point. Now if you don't take this challenge....well that is going to tell us something nes pas?
Pea,
It reminds me of the day, I was in the office of the guidance teacher of my son's school. I had a problem with some of the morality that was being taught in the school(Imagine that!!)
Anyway, one of the statements taught in grade 5 was, "All adults have sex." IN addition to being completely false, I know many people who don't have sex, I had a problem with the implication that once a person reaches adulthood, they are to have sex.
I told the teacher that in our homes we taught our children that all "married" adults have sex. We were told that this was fine but that it wasn't the schools job to teach Christian morals to the children.
I then asked her what would happen when the True/False question of "Do all adults have sex?" comes up on the test and my child answers false. The teacher would mark as incorrect and thus teach my children against our families believes.
Does this sound like a fair system of education which respect the different beliefs of people???
It reminds me of the day, I was in the office of the guidance teacher of my son's school. I had a problem with some of the morality that was being taught in the school(Imagine that!!)
Anyway, one of the statements taught in grade 5 was, "All adults have sex." IN addition to being completely false, I know many people who don't have sex, I had a problem with the implication that once a person reaches adulthood, they are to have sex.
I told the teacher that in our homes we taught our children that all "married" adults have sex. We were told that this was fine but that it wasn't the schools job to teach Christian morals to the children.
I then asked her what would happen when the True/False question of "Do all adults have sex?" comes up on the test and my child answers false. The teacher would mark as incorrect and thus teach my children against our families believes.
Does this sound like a fair system of education which respect the different beliefs of people???
tibear you did not answer my question. You might have a possible convert here. Please put up the Marshall essay and show me point by point where he is wrong. This is your chance to show me the error of my ways. Are you going to do it?
I'm guessing they won't, Peapod. That would require them to read it.
tibear, the teacher was right. All adults do have sex. At least the healthy ones. Abstinence is not just a sexual dysfunction, but a human one.
tibear, the teacher was right. All adults do have sex. At least the healthy ones. Abstinence is not just a sexual dysfunction, but a human one.
RB,
So your telling me that any adult who abstanes from sex is mentally or physically diminished. Interesting perspective. Does that mean that an 18 year must go out on their birthday and hire a prostitute to ensure they are healthy?? How often must an adult have sex before you consider to them to be healthy??
In other threads, you've accused me of trying to impose my beliefs onto others. Yet here is an instance where others HAVE imposed their beliefs onto others and you see no problem with it. Don't you find that rather hypocritical???
You're OK with the imposition of beliefs, as long as their YOUR beliefs.
So your telling me that any adult who abstanes from sex is mentally or physically diminished. Interesting perspective. Does that mean that an 18 year must go out on their birthday and hire a prostitute to ensure they are healthy?? How often must an adult have sex before you consider to them to be healthy??
In other threads, you've accused me of trying to impose my beliefs onto others. Yet here is an instance where others HAVE imposed their beliefs onto others and you see no problem with it. Don't you find that rather hypocritical???
You're OK with the imposition of beliefs, as long as their YOUR beliefs.
No, I mean that healthy adults have sex, Tibear. It might not be a regular occurrence, it might be three times a day.
As I posted earlier, so in "BlairLand", anyone who choses not to have sex is suffering from either a mental or physical ailment???
Interesting perspective. Doesn't make any sense, but interesting just the same. I don't think I ever heard of anyone dying from "Lack of sex".
Interesting perspective. Doesn't make any sense, but interesting just the same. I don't think I ever heard of anyone dying from "Lack of sex".
Regardless of what you think, tibear, abstinence...purposely choosing not have sex on an ongoing basis...is a sexual dysfunction.
Should you be trying to rebut the Gauvin piece?
Should you be trying to rebut the Gauvin piece?
peapod said:
Aye; and the last time I turned the TV on it was full of tits and ass Peapod, and not my "message". Also there were all these commercials begging me for my fat ass dirty dollar. There is no shortage of secular atheist commentary out there either, but you think it needs to be taught in schools? God has no cash? Well he seems to be doing allot better than the tits and ass peddlers out there, and for that matter, maybe cashless God should just do what the lefties do in Canada, have the Government pay for his wants and desires, like the CBC junkies do.
There is no one more needy in this society than that of a lefty. And these ppl are for real, and if you do not like their way of life too bad, you’re paying for it anyways. And if you say no, they put you in jail, all the while telling you they aren’t forcing their beliefs on you, and they are only doing it for your own good.
peapod said:
Yes it is a "free" society isn't it, anyways...
I don't know Peopdod, why does it frighten me, since you seem to have just drawn that little statement out of your magic rabbit hat, because I surely didn't say anything to that effect.
Nor did I even closely; not even by any stretch of the imagination, suggest you or your atheist friends were sheep and couldn't come to your own conclusions. But I will say you sure have a knack for putting words in people's mouths, and projecting images you have of me out there so you may make others believe your sad commentary.
I want to know where Peapod got all these idea's from, because it sure couldn't have been from my short single line post. And I mean I WANT TO KNOW.
So here is your big chance to shine Peapod.
My big chance to shine eh? Well when I open the door to a big dark room and turn the light on and find 20 blind people standing there, did I really do any good? Perhaps for myself, but I highly doubt I did one beneficial thing for those who are blind standing in the so called dark. I cannot imagine for a moment you are going to see the light on anything I say peapod, so excuse me if I don't take lightly to your ordering me around.
So what if I do read this document Peapod, and I find I agree with some of these points, do I still have to refute the points anyway, for your amusement?
Maybe I'm a person who believes in free will, and choices, and not taking orders from atheists unless it brings me something valuable.
Is this going to bring me something valuable Peapod?
You can THINK all you want Peapod, but that’s all it is, is your thoughts. But I'm sure Vanni knows so much about the good book, and whenever I'm in need of spirituality or when I have major philosophical questions, or when I need help with my religious questions, I always turn to the know it all atheist, and now that I know Vanni is one, I will simply ask him.
Well I'm glad you said that cause I sure as hell would not have guessed that. All atheist ppl I know are open minded. Oh wait, no their not, their always telling me exactly how this world works and what to believe and what not too. That is until they discover that it isn't that way, but another, and then again another.
There is nothing more disgusting than hearing this BS about the "free thinking atheist", when I know they cannot for one moment bring themselves to think there might be a "God", and he might have an effect on my life.
Well I'm sorry Peapod, officially I cannot accept your proposal, because I cannot agree to something I know nothing about. I will have to read the document, and then I will entertain your idea.
Yes peapod it will tell us something, it would tell us that Jay doesn't jump when Peapod commands, cause he's smarter than that.
Reverend Blair said:
You do a lot of guessing around here. Let me do some, I’m guessing Reverend shouldn’t allow every insult that comes in to his head, make its way down to his fingers and onto the keyboard for all to see.
Whatever, Jay.
This is about science and the need for reason though. If you want your kids to learn your mythology in school, then send them to a faith-based school. If you are expecting other people's kids to learn your mythology in public school, then you should expect to be told, "No."
Canada is not a Christian state. That may anger you, but your anger is not our problem. By all indications you want nothing to do with Canadian society anyway.
This is about science and the need for reason though. If you want your kids to learn your mythology in school, then send them to a faith-based school. If you are expecting other people's kids to learn your mythology in public school, then you should expect to be told, "No."
Canada is not a Christian state. That may anger you, but your anger is not our problem. By all indications you want nothing to do with Canadian society anyway.