Cultural Reform

JidoSpod

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Being a born and bred westerner I am sick and tired of hearing about the french canadians and how they want to seperate. We all know that they would not be able to survive on there own and it would be no time at all till they would be crying for someone to come and bail them out. And of course we would cave and help them. It always seems the the west is always the last to get any help from the goverment when it is needed. So if they do seperate then let them and good for them and they are on there own.
Sooner or later they will be like the native indians and will be wanting to claim any land that they feel may be worth something to them.

Great post! I agree with you 100%.. and as for the lands, a LOT of quebec is Crown Land, so they wouldnt be getting the entire province if they seperated. Which would mean another province in there somewhere would most likely spawn that would connect both ends of canada if they did split on us..
 

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I also agree. In the west, we get the least amount of assistance with everything. Funding being the major issue. Quebec gets more attention from our federal gov't than the praries and the west combined! So would they stop crying about this all.
 

de-Gaules

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JidoSpod said:
de-Gaules, if you are so sure that EVERYONE is FOR the seperation of Quebec, bring them here, we can all discuss this, because there ARE NOT a majority that support it. AS referendums prove :)

The last referendum have prove nothing at all. 49,6% VS 50,4% is not a majority for me. Exept Montréal, the majority of Québec have vote for the yes. But in Montréal area, there is a lot of English...

All I have to say is that nobody here is able to give me an intelligent answer about the Constitution. You are too emotional. You can't face the fact or you don't know what it is.

For those from the West who think they are igored by gouvernment... well, maybe you are just unintersting. (Just take this forum,... Continent of the Canada, what a joke!)

Firestarter : "We all know that they would not be able to survive on there own and it would be no time at all till they would be crying for someone to come and bail them out."

That's make me realise that the english superiority complex is still present in Canada. Believe me, we can do much more than you think by ourself. If you think we are so week, don't you think we should have being assimilated since a long time?

Without Québec, Canada is only a uninteresting USA copy. That is why you want to keep us. Cause honnestly, if not, why do you keep us with you? There is no reason, we are so week, we can't do nothing by ourself, we cry all the time....

For the guy from montréal who is against separation: my parents teach me real soon the real history of Canada. I suggest you to read Le livre noir du Canada anglais. After that, maybe you'll change opinion. If not, well too bad, you are not a true one, you are not even Québécois, you are Canadian, like this infect beer.

Ciao my friends!
 

Andem

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De-Gaules, I really think you should do some education on Canada. You seem very uneducated on the country you live in. Just because you are proud, doesnt mean Quebec would be any more successful.

Canada is a unique country. And although we have evolved with the united states, we are still a different country with different morals and customs. And who do you think you are having the right to call Vincent_2002 not a true Quebecois? You have no right to tell him he's not a true quebecois. You dont know him.

Finally. Quebec's funding comes from the government of Canada. And a lot of the province is crown land and property! If quebec did seperate, you'd live in a poor poor country with very little industry (like I said before, would move to Toronto, Calgary or Vancouver). And you justify this for your pride. Thats just a laughing matter.

I'd like to see what your friends have to say about this, whether they agree/disagree.
 

JidoSpod

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de-Gaules said:
The last referendum have prove nothing at all. 49,6% VS 50,4% is not a majority for me. Exept Montréal, the majority of Québec have vote for the yes. But in Montréal area, there is a lot of English...

So then your saying anyone who lives in Quebec has to be French? So that would basically mean you'd kick out all non-french people out of Quebec, a lot of them ARE french or at least from french families, regardless of whatever language they prefer to speak. I got a better idea, we'll just send you on the boat.

de-Gaules said:
All I have to say is that nobody here is able to give me an intelligent answer about the Constitution. You are too emotional. You can't face the fact or you don't know what it is.

For those from the West who think they are igored by gouvernment... well, maybe you are just unintersting. (Just take this forum,... Continent of the Canada, what a joke!)

You really do know nothing about Canada do you? And after reading the Continent of the Canadas forums, I read in about 10 places where it says hypothetical.. its a joke get over it.

de-Gaules said:
Firestarter : "We all know that they would not be able to survive on there own and it would be no time at all till they would be crying for someone to come and bail them out."

That's make me realise that the english superiority complex is still present in Canada. Believe me, we can do much more than you think by ourself. If you think we are so week, don't you think we should have being assimilated since a long time?

Without Québec, Canada is only a uninteresting USA copy. That is why you want to keep us. Cause honnestly, if not, why do you keep us with you? There is no reason, we are so week, we can't do nothing by ourself, we cry all the time....

Well over half of Quebec is Crown Corporation Lands. You'd lose most of your province if you seperated, including most of your industry.. do you really still think you'd thrive without anything at all? Maybe you should look and actually SEE how much land that Quebec DOES NOT own that is in Quebec. Then you can start crying about how unfair that is too
 

Andem

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This discussion is going no-where... We need constructive criticizing. Not throwing blows at each other!

Lets all be friends and forget about this topic for now, because its turning into a fight, alright?
 

czardogs

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Let us not forget the large Native Canadian community in Quebec also. they are on record as saying they want NOTHING to do with Quebec if they were to seperate. They want to remain Canadian and as such they to would transfer their large and substantial lands to Canada also. Much of Quebecs best lumber and mining areas are under the control of natives or the Crown.

There has not been any new referendum talks because the BQ know they would lose and lose badly this time around. As more immigrants move to Quebec the chance of them ever winning a referendum is declining by the day.

About the constitution what is the hang up? So what if Quebec chose not to sign. Quebec wants everything its way or no way. The Government of quebec chose not to sign out of displeasure not for any real reasons. Many Canadians think the constitution is weak and needs redoing but we dont whine about it and threaten to leave over it. End of story.

You have said here before that you have never even been to the west so you dont have anything educated to say about it so dont. the West gets screwed over time and time again through transfer payments. Quebec is the second largest province yet still takes the most in transfer payments each and every year. You seperatists would find yourselves in poverty quickly without the money from the West.