CRTC approves usage-based internet billing

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What you're completely ignored is that in Canada, it is only the DENSELY populated areas actually have access to broadband services, so you're completely wrong.
On a density to service ratio Sasktel is again leaps and bounds ahead of the global standard.......(sorry just proud of my well managed socialist public owner gem). No fee hike to go from 1.5 to Mbps either. How odd?


May 31, 2010​
As part of the Rural Infrastructure Program, SaskTel High Speed Internet customers in 73 more communities are receiving higher download speeds after a recent upgrade. SaskTel has increased the maximum download speed in those communities from 1.5 megabits per second (Mbps) to 5 Mbps. Customers began receiving the higher speeds automatically and High Speed Internet charges will not increase as a result of this upgrade.

This upgrade is part of a larger initiative to upgrade 211 High Speed Internet Basic communities from 1.5 Mbps to 5 Mbps by the end of 2010. A total of 163 communities have been upgraded so far this year. SaskTel will make announcements regarding additional upgrade locations as they are completed.

“SaskTel continues to add value for Saskatchewan residents with capital investments and service improvements,” said Don Morgan, Minister Responsible for SaskTel. “Customers in these communities can expect an enhanced Internet experience as a result of this upgrade.”

SaskTel offers high speed Internet service to approximately 99 percent of the Saskatchewan population,” said Robert Watson, SaskTel President and CEO. “Now we’re pleased to offer improved service in rural communities across the province to give our customers even better High Speed Internet access.”

Population, Total (2010), 1049701. Density, 1.67 /km2 (4.3 /sq mi)
 

ttc

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The population density here is larger yet the price for UNLIMITED Internet service is extremely affordable. Just as Bell's network was funded by the public, so was Deutsche Telekom's. What you've completely ignored is that in Canada, it is only the DENSELY populated areas actually have access to broadband services, so you're completely wrong.

Bandwidth costs almost nothing; building capacity is where the costs comes in and right now, the costs would involve upgrading as Bell isn't interested in serving less densely populated rural areas because it's not profitable.



Wrong again. People don't have the option anymore to shop around, because Bell is now using their friends in the CRTC to make their competitors less competitive.



Wrong again. This is not an acceptable analogy because rent is controlled by market prices and inflation. Prices for bandwidth and the technologies used to provide broadband Internet service have been dropping for years. In other countries with more of a free market model, even those using legacy telecom lines, are seeing the price for Internet service become more and more affordable.



Theorists? I'm certainly not a theorist with a long history and education in Computer Science from a prestigious university. With record profits, Bell Canada Enterprises sure hasn't improved their service and in fact, many customers report a deterioration in many aspects including the throttling of encrypted traffic and downloading large files.

And finally, wrong again on your 'theory' that 'lighter' users would see lower costs. Since when has Bell actually lowered the costs for people using less bandwidth? A friend of mine in Toronto went on vacation for 3 1/2 weeks and guess what? His Internet bill didn't magically decrease.

You sound like someone working for Bell's PR department.

Of course it's affordable there. Less cost, less infrastructure to upgrade and maintain, AND more users to split the bill. I have certainly not ignored that the densely populated areas of Canada are the ones with the best infrastructure, that is actually my point. When people drag in OECD arguments, have they taken into account the less populated areas? Not likely. Many rural areas in Canada have no choice but to get service from Bell. Some have no choice for high speed service except from Rogers. Or Shaw.

People will always have the option to shop around. Just as all companies, including Bell, Rogers, Telus, Shaw, and even Teksavvy will have to create affordable services or else have less income. Last time I checked, prices for internet service are also controlled by the market and inflation, and even independent ISP's call it "renting" from the incumbents, so either you aren't really listening to the argument or latching onto certain facts and ignoring others.

Congratulations on your Computer Science degree. Let me know when you've earned a business one, one that understands business in Canada. The exact fact that people are reporting a deterioration in services is why all this is happening. For several years now.

Lighter users are being offered lighter packages, and pay less. That doesn't sound like a theory to me. I would suggest to your friend who was on vacation for 3 1/2 weeks to call his internet provider and see what options he had.

I'm someone who is a little more informed than the average internet troll, which is what you sound like. Why are you so concerned about something that since you are living in an entirely different country, has no effect on you?
 

Andem

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It affects me because I am Canadian and it tramples the rights of my fellow Canadians to access information and media. Bell oversells their products, period. They don't actually have the capacity to sell you a 5Megabit connection but that's exactly what you're paying for and it's been going on for years now.

So what you're telling me now, is that 25GB of information is worth a pricetag of $35/month? Baloney. But, you can access their IPTV service without having to worry about bandwidth, while undercutting their online competitors? More baloney.

Also consider that much of Bell's support services are now outsourced to India, relative slave labour!

I do understand business and economics very well, ttc.

>> Many rural areas in Canada have no choice but to get service from Bell.

Many rural areas in Canada infact do not have access to Bell service.

>> average internet troll, which is what you sound like

I'd watch what you say, I am the one providing YOU this forum with a free place to post your opinions without moderation.
 

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>> Many rural areas in Canada have no choice but to get service from Bell. Some have no choice for high speed service except from Rogers. Or Shaw.

Many rural areas in Canada infact do not have access to Bell service.

>> average internet troll, which is what you sound like

I'd watch what you say, I am the one providing YOU this forum with a free place to post your opinions without moderation.

Quote the relevant sentences please, I know there are places that Bell does not cover, but are covered by other major ISPs. What action, if any, do the minor ISP's do to reach these rural areas, with the exception of Saskatchewan :) You are also, like so many others, getting your data from several years ago.

When someone picks out bits of sentences and replies in your method, I just call it like I see it. I see an awful lot of one sided argument everywhere, with little intelligent debate. The only intelligent debate I've seen is a clip from The Agenda which stopthemeter.ca desperately tried to spin badly, because its soooo easy to be angry at the big bad corp. The main thing I got from that is that the rep from Teksavvy has nothing better to say than spit out rhetoric he may have read somewhere else.

Did you know that there was a Facebook group with 5000 people saying they would attend a rally in Toronto against UBB and only 12 people showed up? 12. Things can seem a lot bigger than they are on the internet.