COVID-19 'Pandemic'

Blackleaf

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New Zealand locked down before it had a single death. It has tested like crazy (15,000+ per million). It never accepted herd immunity or that ‘many loved ones will die’. And look at its graph.

Britain accepted lockdown and its death rate per 1000 people is twice that of Sweden.

So you could argue the opposite.
 

Ocean Breeze

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New Zealand locked down before it had a single death. It has tested like crazy (15,000+ per million). It never accepted herd immunity or that ‘many loved ones will die’. And look at its graph.

Wonder ho many Chinese travel to NZ or Australia .......as compared to CDA .../ North Amrica .
 

Blackleaf

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Wonder ho many Chinese travel to NZ or Australia .......as compared to CDA .../ North Amrica .

3 million Chinese visit America every year, 1.4 million Chinese visit Australia every year, 700,000 visit Canada every year and 450,000 visit New Zealand every year.
 

Blackleaf

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No....not yet. Cases in the UK have leveled off.
Sweden is increasing.
Why?

Here's a chart (you'll have to go on the site to see it) compared to a set of fully ‘locked down’ European countries: https://unherd.com/2020/04/jury-still-out-on-swedish-coronavirus-strategy/


Suddenly the Swedish curve looks the best — and flattening out rapidly.

The truth is, the Swedish epidemic is far from the out of control disaster its critics would like to believe. Yesterday, there were 12 deaths from Covid-19; the previous day there were 17; the day before that there were 77 and the day before that there were 106. We could expect levels to catch up after this Easter weekend, but it can hardly be described as exponential growth.

A clearer way of looking at death numbers, also courtesy of the excellent Our World in Data, is the daily trend of deaths per million. Here you get a good sense of the trajectories. All of the countries listed below, except Sweden, have full national lockdowns. And yet Sweden is roughly in the middle of the pack. This is quite remarkable in itself, when set against the dominant narrative that lockdowns are the only thing capable of ‘flattening’ these curves and preventing tragedies that are many times worse (again, go on the site to see it).
 

Avro52

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Here's a chart (you'll have to go on the site to see it) compared to a set of fully ‘locked down’ European countries: https://unherd.com/2020/04/jury-still-out-on-swedish-coronavirus-strategy/
Suddenly the Swedish curve looks the best — and flattening out rapidly.
The truth is, the Swedish epidemic is far from the out of control disaster its critics would like to believe. Yesterday, there were 12 deaths from Covid-19; the previous day there were 17; the day before that there were 77 and the day before that there were 106. We could expect levels to catch up after this Easter weekend, but it can hardly be described as exponential growth.
A clearer way of looking at death numbers, also courtesy of the excellent Our World in Data, is the daily trend of deaths per million. Here you get a good sense of the trajectories. All of the countries listed below, except Sweden, have full national lockdowns. And yet Sweden is roughly in the middle of the pack. This is quite remarkable in itself, when set against the dominant narrative that lockdowns are the only thing capable of ‘flattening’ these curves and preventing tragedies that are many times worse (again, go on the site to see it).


Which brings me back to New Zealand.

8 new cases yesterday

Sweden had 639
 

Blackleaf

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Anecdotal evidence from doctors around the world suggests that anti-malarial drug #hydroxychloroquine might have a key role in treating patients with the #COVID19 #coronavirus. Why would the media and scientists want to delay this admittedly experimental treatment when thousands of people are dying every single day? Can we wait for the end of clinical trials on this?

 

Avro52

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Anecdotal evidence from doctors around the world suggests that anti-malarial drug #hydroxychloroquine might have a key role in treating patients with the #COVID19 #coronavirus. Why would the media and scientists want to delay this admittedly experimental treatment when thousands of people are dying every single day? Can we wait for the end of clinical trials on this?

Why?

Its anecdotal and may make symptoms worse of even kill the patient.
 

Blackleaf

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Give up that Limey fool, until he gets COVID-19 he will be flapping his gums like a retard.
After he has it, he will be crying for a lockdown and free money..
I'd say he's about as dumb as a rock, but that would be an insult to the rock

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