Count down / count up to the Day of the Lord

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"Take care of your teeth as best you can. Drink a lot of water. Cultivate your mind. And try to be happy. Because the world is phucked up. I can’t pretend, or say “Oh, it’s not as bad as you think.” Yes, dear, the world is phucked up."
- Patti Smith






Your imaginary gawd is not gonna save you. You will be on this merry-go-round until you figure out that only you can save you.
 

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When a single individual refers to himself in the plural insanity has already set in.
Not sure if you have noticed, but most on here do not appreciate being preached at. Johnny is right to use the plural. Insanity is continuing to preach at people when it has been made perfectly clear they do not want it .
 

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Given the many other prophecies of this sort with already fulfilled aspects, it is a serious matter, and as of this post, there are less than 168 days remaining, culminating on Holy Family Saturday, December 29, 2018 A.D.

Much effort has been worked .. but while the sources are not so confidential or trusty .. many of these books have been manipulated by time by the hand of people with different motives .. and still such alterations and distortions going on at every opportunity .. in the pretext of editing, and modernizing the text .. etc.

Such date may in fact coincide (or not) with ?? the anticipated time of the coming of the Awaited Mahdi (or the Comforter) .. the sign of his coming is the demolition of the Aqsa mosque in the Quds of Palestine which has been launched recently.

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Christians are deluded .. Jesus in fact was not crucified nor was he resurrected .. he was saved from the execution and was released from prison .. then when they saw him alive 3 days later, some thought he was crucified then resurrected .. i.e. they applied the prophecy that someone would be resurrected .. and they said: "he must be the one who will be resurrected from the dead" .. in fact the resurrected from the dead will be the Mahdi or the Comforter.
 
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Not sure if you have noticed, but most on here do not appreciate being preached at. Johnny is right to use the plural. Insanity is continuing to preach at people when it has been made perfectly clear they do not want it .
Here is your sermon for the day: FU Nobody gives a shit what you think of God, least of all God.

Still can't pass up on thread about topics you have zero interest in, eh?? Who is the 'unbalanced one'?

Christians are deluded .. Jesus in fact was not crucified nor was he resurrected .. he was saved from the execution and was released from prison .. then when they saw him alive 3 days later, some thought he was crucified then resurrected .. i.e. they applied the prophecy that someone would be resurrected .. and they said: "he must be the one who will be resurrected from the dead" .. in fact the resurrected from the dead will be the Mahdi or the Comforter.
That will come as a big disappointment to God, He was really counting on the bruise to the heel be completed by Jesus dying on the cross.


Isa:53:10:
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him;
he hath put him to grief:
when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin,
he shall see his seed,
he shall prolong his days,
and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Have you figured out that the Quran was from the weekend Jesus spent in the village the woman from the well came from?? You know, back when Jesus was 'just a Prophet' because John the Baptist was the High Priest as he was not in prison yet.

BTW the 1611KJV used the original Greek for the NT and the original Hebrew for the OT. Copyright laws mean all other English Bibles are flawed because they had to use different references in order to get their own copyright. Making money was their motive rather than enlightening the Flock. Daniel and his 3 friends had Angels help them correct all the errors that had crept into the OT over the centuries the Torah was an oral book or do you believe they were able to keep it exact even though they fell into sin and were exiled from the Promised Land.
 

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The 10 men in the Da:7 4th beast vision and explanation are the same 10 men in the vision and explanation in Re:17. How do you have them meshed??
It is an assumption that they are the same.

For them to exist the 5th trump . . .
The Book of Revelation contains a warning against those who add and detract from its verses as though it was a feeding frenzy.

You should learn to respect the Book of Revelation inclusive to the warning given in its closing verses, and realize that the prophecy has been intended for all who read it, from the day it was first written and forever more; the Book of Revelation is a book of hope, not only for today and tomorrow but even for those of the first centuries of Christ's church, and every one else in between.

As prophecy is meant for our edification and not for our destruction, there is further necessity for reverence.

If you create a timeline contrary to God's plan, what good have you done?

I did something like that in this count down / count up as the 1,335th day of Daniel 12:12, Ascension Sunday, May 8, 2016 A.D., approached; I equated the 2,300th day of Daniel 8:14 with the 1,335th day of Daniel 12:12; but I admit I wasn't sure of the 2,300th day, and I was tiring; my thinking being that because Daniel 12:12 contained words of a foretold blessing, I could bank the words of Daniel 8:14 with that blessing.

In the beginning of the Book of Revelation a similar blessing is given for reading it, not manipulating it into something it isn't.

The symbolism used in the Book of Revelation is effective across generations because it was written that way; the eleventh chapter of the Book of Daniel, however, as stated in the tenth chapter, is what Daniel was told would occur specifically to his people in the latter days.

Da:11:27:

And both these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief,

and they shall speak lies at one table;

but it shall not prosper:

for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.
The later meeting of Daniel 11:40 formally took place on November 8, 2012 A.D., and there is documentation to prove it.

Da:11:31:

And arms shall stand on his part,

and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength,

and shall take away the daily sacrifice,

and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
Da:11:32:

And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries:

but the people that do know their God shall be strong,

and do exploits.
There remains less than 156 days of those things.

Da:7:24:

And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise:

and another shall rise after them;

and he shall be diverse from the first,

and he shall subdue three kings.
Da:7:25:

And he shall speak great words against the most High,

and shall wear out the saints of the most High,

and think to change times and laws:

and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
The same finite 156 days apply here, but those quotes previous to chapter eleven are more inclusive to the broader descriptions of all antichrists; read about how "daylight savings time" began, I had nothing to do with that.

Da:12:1-3:

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:

and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time:

and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life,

and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament;

and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
I liken the end of chapter eleven and the beginning of chapter twelve to two great tectonic plates, the equivalent of when Jesus said, "Then shall come the end."

The difference between the 2,300th day of Daniel 8:14, Holy Family Saturday, December 29, 2018 A.D. and the following day, the First Sunday of the General Resurrection of the Dead, December 30, 2018 A.D.
 

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It is an assumption that they are the same.
Not at all. the first 3 are in this reference. The 4th beast in Da:7 is the iron/clay kingdom from Da:2, the last few verses of Da:8 and all of Da:11.

Re:13:1:
And I stood upon the sand of the sea,
and saw a beast rise up out of the sea,
having seven heads and ten horns,
and upon his horns ten crowns,
and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Re:13:2:
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard,
and his feet were as the feet of a bear,
and his mouth as the mouth of a lion:
and the dragon gave him his power,
and his seat,
and great authority.

Da:7:7:
After this I saw in the night visions,
and behold a fourth beast,
dreadful and terrible,
and strong exceedingly;
and it had great iron teeth:
it devoured and brake in pieces,
and stamped the residue with the feet of it:
and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it;
and it had ten horns.

Da:7:19-21:
Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast,
which was diverse from all the others,
exceeding dreadful,
whose teeth were of iron,
and his nails of brass;
which devoured,
brake in pieces,
and stamped the residue with his feet;
And of the ten horns that were in his head,
and of the other which came up,
and before whom three fell;
even of that horn that had eyes,
and a mouth that spake very great things,
whose look was more stout than his fellows.
I beheld,
and the same horn made war with the saints,
and prevailed against them;

Da:7:23:
Thus he said,
The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth,
which shall be diverse from all kingdoms,
and shall devour the whole earth,
and shall tread it down,
and break it in pieces.

Da:2:40-43:
And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron:
forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things:
and as iron that breaketh all these,
shall it break in pieces and bruise.
And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes,
part of potters' clay,
and part of iron,
the kingdom shall be divided;
but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron,
forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
And as the toes of the feet were part of iron,
and part of clay,
so the kingdom shall be partly strong,
and partly broken.
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay,
they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men:
but they shall not cleave one to another,
even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Da:8:23-25:
And in the latter time of their kingdom,
when the transgressors are come to the full,
a king of fierce countenance,
and understanding dark sentences,
shall stand up.
And his power shall be mighty,
but not by his own power:
and he shall destroy wonderfully,
and shall prosper,
and practise,
and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand;
and he shall magnify himself in his heart,
and by peace shall destroy many:
he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes;
but he shall be broken without hand.

The Book of Revelation contains a warning against those who add and detract from its verses as though it was a feeding frenzy.
Considering Re:12 is an expansion of Ge:3:15 I would suggest the Bible is what is being referenced rather than just the Book of Revelations.

You should learn to respect the Book of Revelation inclusive to the warning given in its closing verses, and realize that the prophecy has been intended for all who read it, from the day it was first written and forever more; the Book of Revelation is a book of hope, not only for today and tomorrow but even for those of the first centuries of Christ's church, and every one else in between.
The Gospel of John (the Baptist) and the Revelations of John (the Baptist) are the material that was withheld from Daniel. If he had those books like the beloved Disciple of John the Baptist did he would have been able to figure out what was confusing him.

As prophecy is meant for our edification and not for our destruction, there is further necessity for reverence.

Revelations is filling in some blanks that were left when the OT was written. For instance, Isaiah:65 is about the group called 'the rest' in Re:20.

Re:19:21:
And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse,
which sword proceeded out of his mouth:
and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Isa:65:12-15:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:

If you create a timeline contrary to God's plan, what good have you done?
It fits with what He has written, you are the one going outside the Bible to use different numbers. That seems to be your confession rather than it applies to me and what I post.

I did something like that in this count down / count up as the 1,335th day of Daniel 12:12, Ascension Sunday, May 8, 2016 A.D., approached; I equated the 2,300th day of Daniel 8:14 with the 1,335th day of Daniel 12:12; but I admit I wasn't sure of the 2,300th day, and I was tiring; my thinking being that because Daniel 12:12 contained words of a foretold blessing, I could bank the words of Daniel 8:14 with that blessing.

The prophecy:
Re:6:1:
And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals,
and I heard,
as it were the noise of thunder,
one of the four beasts saying,
Come and see.
Re:6:2:
And I saw,
and behold a white horse:
and he that sat on him had a bow;
and a crown was given unto him:
and he went forth conquering,
and to conquer.

Isa:49:2:
And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword;
in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me,
and made me a polished shaft;
in his quiver hath he hid me;

The first event is the sealing of people in a period of 30 days before the 1st trump sounds. There is no way to determine when God allows Jesus to do that.

Re:8:2-6:
And I saw the seven angels which stood before God;
and to them were given seven trumpets.
And another angel came and stood at the altar,
having a golden censer;
and there was given unto him much incense,
that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
And the smoke of the incense,
which came with the prayers of the saints,
ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
And the angel took the censer,
and filled it with fire of the altar,
and cast it into the earth:
and there were voices,
and thunderings,
and lightnings,
and an earthquake.
And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.

In the beginning of the Book of Revelation a similar blessing is given for reading it, not manipulating it into something it isn't.
The book shows that 3 1/2 days is what time, times, and 1/2 a time in Da:7 is as well as a host of other goodies. You are a child of darkness if you can't make those connections. The prophecies in the 12 books listed after Daniel all deal only with the transition from the iron/clay to the start of the eternal kingdom. The wicked are killed and then the resurrections take place.

The symbolism used in the Book of Revelation is effective across generations because it was written that way; the eleventh chapter of the Book of Daniel, however, as stated in the tenth chapter, is what Daniel was told would occur specifically to his people in the latter days.
These 'latter days'??

De:4:26-31:
I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day,
that ye shall soon utterly perish from off the land whereunto ye go over Jordan to possess it;
ye shall not prolong your days upon it,
but shall utterly be destroyed.
And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations,
and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen,
whither the LORD shall lead you.
And there ye shall serve gods,
the work of men's hands,
wood and stone,
which neither see,
nor hear,
nor eat,
nor smell.
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God,
thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;)
he will not forsake thee,
neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.

The later meeting of Daniel 11:40 formally took place on November 8, 2012 A.D., and there is documentation to prove it.
Of course there is Dear.

There remains less than 156 days of those things.
Then what do you do when nothing has changed??

The same finite 156 days apply here, but those quotes previous to chapter eleven are more inclusive to the broader descriptions of all antichrists; read about how "daylight savings time" began, I had nothing to do with that.
I'll pass on that if it's all the same. You should examine what this verse means though.

2Th:2:11:
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
that they should believe a lie:

I liken the end of chapter eleven and the beginning of chapter twelve to two great tectonic plates, the equivalent of when Jesus said, "Then shall come the end."

The end of the earth is after the 1,000 years and Satan and the remaining fallen angels are in the lake. Ezekiel is one of the 24 Elders and he and the others will have thrones on earth and instruct the people how to live in a sinless world so they are not sent to the fiery lake when Satan is.

Re:5:8-10:
And when he had taken the book,
the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb,
having every one of them harps,
and golden vials full of odours,
which are the prayers of saints.
And they sung a new song,
saying,
Thou art worthy to take the book,
and to open the seals thereof:
for thou wast slain,
and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred,
and tongue,
and people,
and nation;
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests:
and we shall reign on the earth.

Mal:4:5:
Behold,
I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal:4:6:
And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children,
and the heart of the children to their fathers,
lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Ezekiel:38 and the Gog war. Ezekiel:38 is for the 1,000 year reign and the 'battle' that comes when Satan and all remaining fallen angels in the Pit are released and joined by the ones whose bones are buried in a graveyard in Israel in Ezekiel:39.

The people that are there at the end of the chapter are the ones at the start of the chapter that complete the 7 year clean-up and the 7 months of gathering some bones and burying them in a special graveyard that has the name Gog attached to it. The bones belong to the 4 fallen angels that manifest into the 200M horsemen and it is by these being that the 12 Tribes are brought down to being just the 144,000. By the evening of the day Jesus returns and kills all sinners the whole House of Israel will be alive and standing in Israel.

If Gog does not exist until 7 years into the 1,000 year reign then they cannot be in a war at the start because part of the vials is the river of blood and that is the death of those angelic horsemen. There are a few clues in Eze:38 that it is the 1,000 years such as Jerusalem is an unwalled city during that time and it is only during that time that the people are living in safety for the first time. An earlier reference to Damascus being part of prophecy that you believe is happening either means you are working off materials somebody has handed you or you missed more than a passage or two of Scripture. The bones of men that dies as part of the return do not have their bones gathered and placed in the City of Gog.

The difference between the 2,300th day of Daniel 8:14, Holy Family Saturday, December 29, 2018 A.D. and the following day, the First Sunday of the General Resurrection of the Dead, December 30, 2018 A.D.
Da:8 deals with the time of the brass, that is the 6th king. The 'short space' is 3 1/2 days as the two witnesses are part of the brass and they keep Jerusalem from falling into Satan's control until they die. When they are resurrected Satan is tossed into the Pit and then off to the lake when he is released. Rome was the authority over Jerusalem when Revelations was written about 100AD

Re:17:10:
And there are seven kings:
five are fallen,
and one is,
and the other is not yet come;
and when he cometh,
he must continue a short space.
 
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You spelled 'toy' wrong.


It starts with a warm feeling and then the worst is over.





The 10 men in the Da:7 4th beast vision and explanation are the same 10 men in the vision and explanation in Re:17. How do you have them meshed??

For them to exist the 5th trump has to have sounded. The two witnesses start their 1260 days ministry when the 1st trump sounds. 1260 days later that Beast kills them and 4 days later they are resurrected and the Beast is sent to the fiery lake as his 42 months has ended. You realize that points to the first 4 trumps sounding in just 4 days right?





The king with the daughter is Satan and the harlot is his daughter. All the wars are fake wars as they both sit at the same table. The abomination is a false throne (image from Re:13) and it can only be in place during the 3 1/2 days the two witnesses are in the grave. The 'exploit' is their resurrection and that ties in with the verse from Da:7 as that is referencing the 3 1/2 days they are in the grave.



Da:11:27:

And both these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief,

and they shall speak lies at one table;

but it shall not prosper:

for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.



Da:11:31:

And arms shall stand on his part,

and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength,

and shall take away the daily sacrifice,

and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
Da:11:32:

And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries:

but the people that do know their God shall be strong,

and do exploits.


Da:7:24:

And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise:

and another shall rise after them;

and he shall be diverse from the first,

and he shall subdue three kings.
Da:7:25:

And he shall speak great words against the most High,

and shall wear out the saints of the most High,

and think to change times and laws:

and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.



The 'trouble' in the verse below is referencing the 7th trump sounding and the 7 vials being poured out on satan's whole kingdom. Obviously the last 3 verse of that passage is the Re:20:4 resurrection that is the 12 Tribes according to the list in Exe:37 and the Gentile Church.


Da:11:45:

And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain;

yet he shall come to his end,

and none shall help him.


Da:12:1-3:

And at that time shall Michael stand up,

the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:

and there shall be a time of trouble,

such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time:

and at that time thy people shall be delivered,

every one that shall be found written in the book.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,

some to everlasting life,

and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament;

and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.





The trend points to the (fake) harvest being late Sept. When are you giving all you worldly good to the poor.





Of course you can Dear.
Of course you did Dear.


King #1 = Neb
Kings # 2 and #3 = Da:5 and 6
King #4 = Alex
King #5 - whoever took Jerusalem from Greece
King #6 = Rome and she is the little horn in Da:8, the full 500 year rule is covered
King #7 = Satan The falling mountain when the 5th trump sounds
King #8 = Beast from the Pit. A king before the flood, becoming a king again is how his head wound is healed.


Prophecy:
Jude:1:14:

And Enoch also,

the seventh from Adam,

prophesied of these,

saying,

Behold,

the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,



Historical event when all fallen angels were put into the Pit:
De:33:2:

And he said,

The LORD came from Sinai,

and rose up from Seir unto them;

he shined forth from mount Paran,

and he came with ten thousands of saints:

from his right hand went a fiery law for them.





God's timeline for events leading to the bruise to Satan's head is 3 1/2 years, the timeline from when John the Baptist was called until the cross was 3 1/2 years.

Historism has some serious flaws.




Really?


Enlighten me. Do you also believe that pixies live at the bottom of your garden? I'm serious. I want an answer.
 

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Hey Cliffy, it appears I broke my new toy.


Go ahead toad, red this post too since you don't have any real arguments.


Lu:18:18-25:
And a certain ruler asked him,
saying,
Good Master,
what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
And Jesus said unto him,
Why callest thou me good?
none is good,
save one,
that is,
God.
Thou knowest the commandments,
Do not commit adultery,
Do not kill,
Do not steal,
Do not bear false witness,
Honour thy father and thy mother.
And he said,
All these have I kept from my youth up.
Now when Jesus heard these things,
he said unto him,
Yet lackest thou one thing:
sell all that thou hast,
and distribute unto the poor,
and thou shalt have treasure in heaven:
and come,
follow me.
And when he heard this,
he was very sorrowful:
for he was very rich.
And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful,
he said,
How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye,
than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
 

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Not at all.
The blessing in the beginning of the Book of Revelation is for reading, hearing, and keeping; then this is most likely your version of keeping.

Fine.

And Ascension Sunday, May 8, 2016 A.D., the 1,335th day of Daniel 12:12 also includes a blessing for all who wait and come unto that day.

The inclusion of the ten kings in both readings appears quite similar, yet the Books are also quite opposite in that the Book of Daniel was sealed while the Book of Revelation directly states not to be sealed.

I witnessed the unsealing of the Book of Daniel, as did others, in the same sort of environment in which Daniel served during the Babylonian captivity when he was told to seal it, public court; and this only occurred as recently as the spring of 2013 A.D.; the counting up was in the 100's, and it was an answer to a prayer, to be given something better than an ongoing murder / robbery / complaint in Chester County in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania; and this was after the realization that Daniel 11:40 was fulfilled via the complaint form.

So although there are those similarities, the basis for this counting is found in the Book of Daniel.
 

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The blessing in the beginning of the Book of Revelation is for reading, hearing, and keeping; then this is most likely your version of keeping.

Fine.
The best argument I have is to put this to rest until you update it sometime in 2019.

Nice sign Cliffy, you sure it doesn't belong where Politicians and Wall Sr executives can see it daily??
 

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The best argument I have is to put this to rest until you update it sometime in 2019.
There is no further counting past Holy Family Saturday, December 29, 2018 A.D., that is the 2,300th day foretold in Daniel 8:14, the largest of the four-digit numbers in that prophecy.

And if you want to argue about, I suggest seeing Justice Sarcione about it, he might listen to you, then again, he just might lock you up in the county jail.
 
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The best argument I have is to put this to rest until you update it sometime in 2019.

Nice sign Cliffy, you sure it doesn't belong where Politicians and Wall Sr executives can see it daily??


It is more accurate than any of your superstitious rantings.