Conservative Child Care plan puts women back at home

[orpheus]

RE: Conservative Child Ca

They won the election because people were sick of the Liberals, not because they really care for their policies. That much is obvious to anyone. And they're still a minority. I really don't have to finish this paragraph...

And Colpy, the Liberals aren't going to bring down a government until it's advanatgeous to them. They have to do some serious image control, and when the time's right, they'll go for it.

 

[FiveParadox]

Agreed, orpheus.

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: Conservative Child Care plan puts women back at home

Yes, of course I know they won the election.

However, they won with only a minority of seats. Therefore, they must acknowledge that they do not have the right to implement whatever policies they see fit without the consent of the House of Commons; if they attempt to do so, they are going to be defeated. There is no other way to say it.

The dare care program was a major campaign issue...the Liberals and the NDP lost running a campaign taking the opposite stance.

 

[FiveParadox]

But with their votes together, the NDP and the Liberal policies outnumber the Conservative policy. If a majority of Canadians voted against their "child care" credit, then it should not be implemented -- at least not without compromising the policy to make it agreeable with the other parties.

 

[orpheus]

RE: Conservative Child Ca

The dare care program was a major campaign issue...the Liberals and the NDP lost running a campaign taking the opposite stance.

They Coservatives didn't win on daycare. They won on the fact that people were sick of the Liberals. Don't forget that the NDP gained around 10 seats as well. So their support is growing. And considering the Liberals were only expecting around 80 seats, they did pretty damn well.

 

[Jay]

While your most lowly self is in the presents of the good people at CanCon, try to resist the urge to quote me.

 

[FiveParadox]

Would you two please refrain from allowing your argument to propagate itself throughout other threads? If you must discuss "this issue", please proceed to Wreck Beach with some lemonade, some sunscreen, and then proceed to beat each other over the head with the beach umbrellas — but not before!

 

[Colpy]

Re: RE: Conservative Child Care plan puts women back at home

But with their votes together, the NDP and the Liberal policies outnumber the Conservative policy. If a majority of Canadians voted against their "child care" credit, then it should not be implemented -- at least not without compromising the policy to make it agreeable with the other parties.

How is "compromise" possible?

These are two directly opposing views....one to help people directly, the other to build bureaucracy and hope people benefit.

Take comfort in this one fact, Five.....I have NEVER predicted an election result accurately, and not for lack of trying.

 

[orpheus]

RE: Conservative Child Ca

While your most lowly self is in the presents of the good people at CanCon, try to resist the urge to quote me.

Notice though, that he couldn't argue against my point. =D

How is "compromise" possible?

These are two directly opposing views....one to help people directly, the other to build bureaucracy and hope people benefit.

Remember in the previous government though? Politics makes for strange bedfellows. =D To accomplish anything, they're going to have to team up.

 

[FiveParadox]

One thing I have noticed about elections here in Canada, Colpy — predictions and polls, from all sides, mean absolutely nothing lol. Just look at the first election of the Social Credit Party in British Columbia.

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: Conservative Child Ca

While your most lowly self is in the presents of the good people at CanCon, try to resist the urge to quote me.

Notice though, that he couldn't argue against my point. =D

And it wasn't my intention to do so either....so notice away!

 

[FiveParadox]

I suppose a compromise would not be easy.

However, the Conservative Party of Canada must recognize that, among the opposition to his government (which he must recognize outnumbers his government), and among their supporters, the "Choice for Child Care" endeavour, as I believe they have named it (correct me if I am wrong, please) is highly unpopular and could put the Parliament of Canada in a perilously unstable position.

 

[orpheus]

RE: Conservative Child Ca

Even if he recognizes it though, he promised it during the election. If he wants a government of "accountability" etc. Then he's going to look pretty damn bad if he doesn't go through with this. He must know he's going to be trumped if he goest through with it. I'm really interested in seeing how he pulls this off.