Congrats to the Canadian Curling Team

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The whole Olimpic thing has gone the wrong way with commercialization and even Team Events.

The Olympics are best when the sports are individuals and involve the fewest tools.

The orginal Olimpic had naked people competing one on one in wrestling, running, javalin etc.

The more equipment and teams go into the equation the less Olympic the sport appears to me.

I would like to see more individual one on one competitions of people competing for their country as it was ment to be and not so much of a comercial sporting event.
 

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There is very little these days in the way of people competing in anything - and athletics are all financially based now.

Perhaps one day the Olympics will be considered a dinosaur and the young people of the world will never get together in an organized way to compete for their sport and their country.

If that happens, mankind will have lost part of its soul - much of which has already been won over by the God of Financial Gain.
 

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Well there's only so much you can do naked in the middle of the winter olympics... unless you wanna play hide the Banana or run like hell into the warm cabin!

I personally think 90% of the athletes in the winter olympics are under paid and don't recieve enough support.
 

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Wednesday's Child said:
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There is very little these days in the way of people competing in anything - and athletics are all financially based now.

Perhaps one day the Olympics will be considered a dinosaur and the young people of the world will never get together in an organized way to compete for their sport and their country.

If that happens, mankind will have lost part of its soul - much of which has already been won over by the God of Financial Gain.


I don't know where you live but I know most of the winter olympic athetes here are on the Canadian tire program or the Tim Hortins one... Most don't have any money and depend on there parents and live with them while they are training. Besides the Hockey players which is only one Olympic sport out of hundreds I don't know any other sport were they make money. The only other one once you go professional is figure skating and they don't make that much money and its hard to get in.
 

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Agreed - what you have said is exactly why I have been muddling around trying to write.

All this safety equipment and fancy colors and "tools"....and team stuff....and clocks...and judges....and rules.....

We have refined "sport" into some kind of mathematical equation.
A Dr. Mengele experiment to determine a master race?

Back to the originals as you say.... I know the audience would like the aspect of "naked" athletes....probably get bigger numbers than they do now. :lol:
 

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WINTER OLYMPICS HERE GUYS!!!! you know snow!!! ice!!!! yeah the naked sports with few tools may work in the summer but they don't fly in the winter!!!! Unless your going to make snow ball fighting events!
 

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The Inuit have many interesting suitable sports for winter like running naked across frozen lakes. That's one that would surely take off.

How about just standing outside naked for as long as you can at 20 below zero!

Slidding down a frozen hill naked on your butt.

The luge without the luge or anything at all. Ouch!
 

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Re: RE: Congrats to the Canadian Curling Team

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I agree that the image of curling must be updated to appeal to the current blood thirsty lusting desire of the masses. With regards to the references to bulls , maybe we could have the running of the stones on the curling rink. One team has to run down the ice sweeping while the other team hurls the stones at them- that might ensure some good injuries to increase the numbers of spectators.


How about replacing the brooms with fencing swords.... oh yeah!

agreed-but that would mean updating zambonie technology in order to clean all that blood off the ice
 

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The athletes have a tough time with financial backing - agreed - and their equipment alone is huge. Parents sacrifice a great deal if their child wants to join the Oympic movement - even if for one time - and those who repeat must have some sideline to earn money in order to keep training.

The figure skater from Turkey who moved to train in Canada - had to do so with her mother. The father moved with them but could not support them on the work he was able to find, so he returned to Turkey and sent money to Canada to pay for the daughter's ice rink time, for her coaches, for her costumes, for her choreography,
and we aren't even counting the travel time to various events.
One skater is like a cottage industry to support. I really admire that skater's mother and father for their sacrifices. Michelle Kwan's parents sacrificed much for her skating too, but it is now paying back for all their devotion.

Some countries like Japan and Russia and China fully support and pay for their athletes. I wonder if that is the better way to go to keep the sport clean...but then are those athletes considered professional???

When the next Winter Olympics is played in Canada, do you think the general Canadian population will be able to afford any of the events or will it be a spectator sport for the wealthy?
 

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Wed, Back to the original ideaa behind Olympic, they were National Events of Nations vs Nations and not something people or business should be funding.

This is where it went wrong. It was intended at be Amature Events - with athlets comming from school systems and such.

Canada and every other country, should be responsible for their own anthletes pay for training, equipment and the rest, since it is a competetion among nations.
 

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That's my point as you guys are trying to say these are over paid professionals. Yeah the hocky players are generally that but the magority of the athelets are not in it for the money as there is very little money to be got. I think the Olympic spirit lives on. True the Olympics are extremely corporate dominated, but the expense to put on the olympics these days would economically cripple any nation taking it on if they had to pay for every single penny of the event. It is sad that it has come to this and if we took some time to trouble shoot the problem and find eventive ways of funding the olympics without the coroprate sponcers and what not I'm pretty sure you'd be having these coperations spending the money they saved on propaganda against the "creeping socialism" taking over the events. *shrugs*

I also would love to see counties other then Western or well to do nations hoast the olympics as well and have a international olympic committee help build the needed facilities.
 

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Well you two should be on the IOC!

The IOC itself has become a corporate entity and although I am certain they do much good work in the world, they are financially based as well....and subject to pressure from certain countries for extra attention. I think the Canadian Figure Skaters' fight for the gold medal last Olympics was the first time the IOC judging was challenged and it changed a great deal...showed the corruption the IOC has been hiding for years.

I hate to see the idea of the Olympics disappear....especially for the young people whose lives will always be enriched by their participation and training for the games.

Amateur sport is going the way of the dodo bird I'm afraid... except for Curling......hehe right back at the start eh????
 

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Maybe they should done under Military funding and administration. Countries win gold medals and territory like in the middle-ages with jousting events that replaced the concept of war.

Iraq vs USA in sporting events would have been less devasting.
 

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Re: RE: Congrats to the Canadian Curling Team

iamcanadian said:
Maybe they should done under Military funding and administration. Countries win gold medals and territory like in the middle-ages with jousting events that replaced the concept of war.

Iraq vs USA in sporting events would have been less devasting.

IamCanadian

Agreed - exactly! And hugging should be made an Olympic sport too! :p
 

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Finder - ok - the First Word!!! of the day

Gotta rant about Bode if people don't mind...

I saw an interview with Tom Brokaw where this Ugly American A-hole LOSER gives it up as his reasons for "being at the Olympics"....

He says for the Olympic stories to be told, someone has to be the loser.... that's why he has partied away his time in Italy, mocking all those athletes who dream for four years of just being there and doing their best..... while he stands back in judgment doing nothing.

Miller - you have shown how empty you are - give your equipment away, you dishonor your country, your team, the athletes from the competing countries and the Olympic movement.

I hope the interviews and the articles will die in a week so we don't have to hear your running off at the mouth much longer...

"Will I go to Vancouver?" he muses? Hey Bode...who gives a damn?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/26/BODE.TMP
 

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