Con MPP Rick Nicholls; maybe evolution should not be taught in schools

gerryh

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Are you blind?

Any Canadian listening to the news these days might well conclude that the Republican extremists or some associated evangelical group has occupied Ottawa.
And they'd be righter than Job, I believe.
Almost daily, more evidence surfaces that Canada's government is guided by tribalists averse to scientific reason in favour of Biblical fundamentalism -- or what some call "evangelical religious skepticism."

Understanding Harper's Evangelical Mission | The Tyee

Why did 10 evangelical leaders fly with Harper to Israel? | Vancouver Sun


Out of 208 guests, 10 were evangelical. OMG! :roll:

now lets take a quick look, cause that's all we really need to do, at the other link.

Well, would you look at that, they openly admit that they DON"T know what exactly Harpers religious beliefs are since he declines to discuss them with the press. So, what the tyee does is go on an uneducated speculation trip. They pick and choose the most radical evangelical groups and imply that this is what Harper and his government support. Something, that after this long in Government, is obviously bullshyte. Just because Harper and his family belong to a Protestant Evangelical Church does not mean he believes everything they preach. It, obviously, doesn't mean he will bring those beliefs into the Canadian mainstream and Government.

I identify as a Roman Catholic. Yet I support SSM, and support birth control. How unfortunate that so many can get brainwashed by the likes of the tyee on the left and free republic on the right. How unfortunate that so many can't think for themselves.
 

CDNBear

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You'll have to excuse relic, he considers Harper to be the great satan. Equally as dumb, he thinks I'm a Conservative.
 

tay

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Mr Lunney Doesn't Understand That Evolution Is Indeed A Theory And Not Fact...........








B.C. Conservative MP James Lunney tweets against evolution

Member of Parliament advises on Twitter to just 'stop calling evolution fact!'







James Lunney, a federal Conservative MP, is using his Twitter account to come to the defence of an Ontario Progressive Conservative who told reporters last week that he doesn't believe in evolution.


The British Columbia chiropractor, first elected as a member of Parliament in 2000, has jumped into a fray that started last week in the Ontario Legislature.


Interim Ontario PC Leader Jim Wilson was quick to distance himself from Nicholls's anti-evolution views, saying "it obviously didn’t help our position."


Ontario PC house leader Steve Clark and leadership candidate Christine Elliott also disowned the remarks.
But Lunney has come to Nicholls' defence.


"[Just] stop calling #evolution fact!" tweeted Lunney, who said he had no problem calling it a "theory."






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Cannuck

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Notice that bear pulled the standard harper trick of first try to change the subject then go to personal attack, standard arsehole playbook

Well, sometimes that's all you've got.

CB's problem is due to laziness and dishonesty. The Conservative party has ceased to be a voice for fiscal conservative values. Responsible use of taxpayers dollars was something that Manning brought to the forefront of Canadian politics years ago and those that valued conservative principles flocked to the party. Unfortunately, the Reform party was hijacked by social conservatives that, not unlike the NDP, had little concern for the taxpayers dollar, especially when it came to promoting their own social issues. I say lazy because it's very easy for people like CB (who claim to be conservative) to sit back and do nothing while their party bungles and mismanages our economy. It requires a tremendous amount of effort to take the bull by the horns and wrestle the party back away from the social engineers and get the focus back to fiscal responsibility. To give CB the benefit of the doubt though, he does freely admit that he is disadvantaged. I'm not quite sure what he means by that but I can only guess that he feels incapable due to some perceived limitation on his part.

I could be wrong though. Perhaps he's just been telling tales all this time and he actually likes the fiscal mismanagement the Harper Conservatives are giving us and enjoys the attempts at social engineering. Either way, it would explain his desire to continually try and change the subject and personally attack those that don't support his man Harper. To do otherwise may require him to admit he hasn't been truly honest or worse yet, get off his buttocks and do something about it.
 

DaSleeper

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Cannuck just mad at Conservatives for giving seniors a tax break with pension Income splitting something a guy who's wife left him can't take advantage of....:lol:
 

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B.C. Conservative MP James Lunney tweets against evolution

B.C. Conservative MP James Lunney tweets against evolution

James Lunney, a federal Conservative MP, is using his Twitter account to come to the defence of an Ontario Progressive Conservative who told reporters last week that he doesn't believe in evolution.

The British Columbia chiropractor, first elected as a member of Parliament in 2000, has jumped into a fray that started last week in the Ontario Legislature.

Ontario Progressive Conservative MPP Rick Nicholls, who represents the province's Chatham-Kent-Essex riding, was heckling the provincial education minister on Wednesday when the matter of human origins came up.

Education Minister Liz Sandals was responding to PC criticism of her government’s new sex-education curriculum when she quipped that a PC government "could opt out of teaching about evolution, too."

"Not a bad idea," said Nicholls, who later clarified his position to reporters in the lobby.

"For myself, I don’t believe in evolution," he said, adding that his views were "a personal stance" rather than party policy.

'Stop calling evolution fact!'

Interim Ontario PC Leader Jim Wilson was quick to distance himself from Nicholls's anti-evolution views, saying "it obviously didn’t help our position."

Ontario PC house leader Steve Clark and leadership candidate Christine Elliott also disowned the remarks.

But Lunney has come to Nicholls's defence.

"[Just] stop calling #evolution fact!" tweeted Lunney, who said he had no problem calling it a "theory."



Lunney, who represents the federal riding of Nanaimo-Alberni. seemed to be echoing views he expressed in a statement to the House in 2009:

"Any scientist who declares that the theory of evolution is a fact has already abandoned the foundations of science. For science establishes fact through the study of things observable and reproducible. Since origins can neither be reproduced nor observed, they remain the realm of hypothesis," he said then.

"The evolutionist may disagree, but neither can produce Darwin as a witness to prove his point. The evolutionist may genuinely see his ancestor in a monkey, but many modern scientists interpret the same evidence in favour of creation and a Creator."

Also questioned vaccines, climate change

Lunney has also used his Twitter account in the past to question climate change.

Last year he tweeted "Science settled? Think again!" and posted a link to an article by a University of Guelph economist who is one of the signatories of a declaration disputing climate change.

In a 2004 speech in the House of Commons, Lunney cited figures he said showed a tenfold increase in the incidence of autism and said Canada should explore a link to vaccines.

"Why should Canada not be leading the world in actually addressing these issues, finding out if there is a root issue, doing some proper studies and making sure we get appropriate intervention for these children?" he said, according to a statement posted on his website.

Medical research has thoroughly discredited the purported link between vaccines and autism. But a widespread belief in such a link is thought to explain a decline in childhood vaccination that has permitted the resurgence of once-vanquished diseases such as measles.

Lunney has said he isn't running again in 2015.


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Cannuck

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Notice that bear pulled the standard harper trick of first try to change the subject then go to personal attack, standard arsehole playbook

I guess I could have included Das' silliness in my post as well. He's a bit of a funny egg. As a card carrying Conservative, he finds himself in quite the pickle. Poor decisions early in life have really limited his options since retirement. Consequently, he needs his government goodies just to get by. Meanwhile, the country goes deeper in debt. What to do??? Admit that fiscal responsibility is only for other people or show some integrity and stand up for that which you claim your party stands for? A definite conundrum indeed.
 

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Re: B.C. Conservative MP James Lunney tweets against evolution

Well, he's entitled to his opinion I guess. Not sure how anyone can ignore the evolution of man and creature being a part of the worlds natural order whether god exists, or not. All things evolve.
 

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Re: B.C. Conservative MP James Lunney tweets against evolution

Well, he's entitled to his opinion I guess. Not sure how anyone can ignore the evolution of man and creature being a part of the worlds natural order whether god exists, or not. All things evolve.

I find people who take stuff literally to be quite scary.
 

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Re: B.C. Conservative MP James Lunney tweets against evolution

Politicians don't get it. They want to discuss how man got to be man and ignore the
real issues. Jobs, taxes, education, medicare, pensions, housing, mental illness and
what are we going to about these challenges.
Instead they want to debate the great question question of the chicken and the egg.
Next they will install sky lights in parliament so they can naval gaze in natural light.
What the hell is going on? I don't give a flying **** about their religious beliefs when
it comes to doing the job of representing their constituents in the houses of government.

 

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MP James Lunney quits Conservative caucus over perceived threats to his religious beliefs

B.C. MP James Lunney says his religious freedom is under attack by those who want to "suppress a Christian world view."







British Columbia MP James Lunney is leaving the Conservative caucus because of perceived threats to his religious freedom as a Christian.


Lunney had already announced that he would not seek another term in the upcoming federal election, but his resignation means he will sit as an Independent in Parliament for the remainder of his term.



“I will seek an opportunity to address the House in defence of my beliefs and the concerns of my faith community,” he wrote on his website.



Lunney wrote he is leaving the party because “the realm of politics at senior levels” have become hostile to “a Christian world-view.”

“It is clear that any politician or candidate of faith is going to be subjected to the same public scrutiny in coming elections,” he said. In February, Ontario Tory Rick Nicholls received flak from his own party when he said he didn’t believe in evolution.



On Feb. 28, Lunney tweeted to “stop calling #evolution fact.” His tweet was retweeted 98 times and the story was picked up by multiple media outlets, but not the Star.




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Zipperfish

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I think math, physics, and chemistry should not be taught. They're just theories.

Well math is more logic--but logical induction and deduction themselves are on thin ice, epistemologically speaking. Physics and chemistry is all theories though. Working models. Actuall;y chemcistry is more a collection of heuristics.