Complaints pile up after Rod Liddle's appearance on Newsnight

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The culture which abolished slavery 60 years before the USA did.
The culture which abolished absolute monarchy centuries before any other European nation.
The culture which is the world's oldest democracy.
32 years, lager lout. 1865-1833=32. But not bad for a compulsive liar.

The rest of it is as stupid and inaccurate as the first, so I won't bother.
 

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32 years, lager lout. 1865-1833=32. But not bad for a compulsive liar.
The rest of it is as stupid and inaccurate as the first, so I won't bother.


Don't you mean 1807, the year from which the Royal Navy took action against less civilised nations like the USA and France by seizing their slave trading ships?

And yet the Yanks try to make it out as though they were the good and enlightened ones and the British the baddies.
 

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Don't you mean 1807, the year from which the Royal Navy took action against less civilised nations like the USA and France by seizing their slave trading ships?
And yet the Yanks try to make it out as though they were the good and enlightened ones and the British the baddies.
No, I mean the year Britain outlawed slavery. The Slavery Abolition Act, 1833.

You outlawed the slave trade in 1807. Slave Trade Act, 1807. We did it the same year. The Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves of 1807.

See, stupid, sodden lager lout? You don't even know your own history as well as a random Yank. And when he points out your error, you just double down instead of taking ten seconds to check.

Because you're stupid.
 

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It's pretty hard to interview Tom Riddle and not stir up a lot of trouble, eh wot?
It's pretty hard for a sodden lager lout who was borderline retarded to begin with to handle being definitively shown that his myth of the Land of Arthur is utter, factual garbage.

As evidence by how fast he scarpered when his bullshit ran out.

I'm sure his primitive repertoire of fallacies serves him well amongst his peers at the Pig and Cock, but he erred grievously when he tried that shit on a trained mind.
 

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What a bunch of loonies. Just ranting on and on in their crazed gibberish.
 

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Yeah, but we know the difference between outlawing the slave trade and outlawing slavery, so we're one up on you in British history.

You're welcome, by the way.

The Royal Navy was intercepting US slave ships as early as 1807. So the evil British were seemingly more good than the angelic, good Americans.

Of course, had the US stayed part of the British Empire slavery would have been abolished there centuries before it actually was.

American independence was bad for coloured folk in America.
 

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The Royal Navy was intercepting US slave ships as early as 1807. So the evil British were seemingly more good than the angelic, good Americans.
Of course, had the US stayed part of the British Empire slavery would have been abolished there centuries before it actually was.
American independence was bad for coloured folk in America.
If you'd been in Upper Canada, you'd have seen slavery outlawed well before it was in Britain.
 

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If you'd been in Upper Canada, you'd have seen slavery outlawed well before it was in Britain.

Upper Canada was British.

So you've probably just proven my point.

Had it gained independence beforehand, maybe slavery wouldn't have been abolished there so early.
 

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The Royal Navy was intercepting US slave ships as early as 1807. So the evil British were seemingly more good than the angelic, good Americans.
Of course, had the US stayed part of the British Empire slavery would have been abolished there centuries before it actually was.
American independence was bad for coloured folk in America.
See, here you are again, making excuses for your ignorance rather than catching a clue.

Which is why you will always be stupid.

What never once occurred to you, even when you could no longer deny to yourself that what you "knew" was wrong, was the possibility that other things you "know" could be wrong.

Thus, you are incapable of learning.
 

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Upper Canada was British.
Upper Canada was fairly British but it was populated at that time with refugees from the newly created United States. Upper Canadians were somewhere between the two. When the War of 1812 broke out and the Yankees invaded, General Brock wasn't sure if he could count on their loyalty, as most of them had family in the US and they were all connected North-South and not with far-off Britain.

That all changed very rapidly when the American invaders behaved like cut throat thugs. Rather that trying to win hearts and minds from a potentially receptive population, they burned, looted, stole, bullied and rousted settlers from their farms. (American character has changed very little in the last two centuries.) We were different from them right from the get-go but we were also different from you, at the same time. Early Canada was settled by political and economic refugees from Britain and Ireland (North and South) and there was little love lost between the Celts who cleared the land and the Brits who demanded taxing their hard work.
 

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You say that like it's a BAD thing!
It was an historic mistake to act that way. It wasn't the New Englanders or New Yorkers who were the poblem. For them, it was a brother's war. It was the assholes from Kentucky who were the worst ... their descendants are today's Trump Central.

It's like when the Nazis invaded the Ukraine. They could easily have been welcomed as liberators but over all, their behaviour was so deplorable that lots of Ukranians were happy to see them fall, at the end.
 

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See, here you are again, making excuses for your ignorance rather than catching a clue.
Which is why you will always be stupid.
What never once occurred to you, even when you could no longer deny to yourself that what you "knew" was wrong, was the possibility that other things you "know" could be wrong.
Thus, you are incapable of learning.

I'm just stating a fact.

It's a fact that American independence was bad for black people in America. We all know that many signatories to the Declaration of Independence were slave owners and that had the US stayed British then slavery would have been abolished far earlier and that all the subsequent troubles between blacks and whites may never have happened.
 

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It was an historic mistake to act that way. It wasn't the New Englanders or New Yorkers who were the poblem. For them, it was a brother's war. It was the assholes from Kentucky who were the worst ... their descendants are today's Trump Central.
It's like when the Nazis invaded the Ukraine. They could easily have been welcomed as liberators but over all, their behaviour was so deplorable that lots of Ukranians were happy to see them fall, at the end.
Yeah, well, our diplomacy was always a mite. . . abrupt.
 

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Yeah, like your "fact" that Britain outlawed slavery in 1807. Which you still haven't acknowledged to be false. One must therefore presume that all of your "facts" have equal truth value.

No. I acknowledge I was wrong.

Slavery was illegal in Britain way before 1807, as confirmed by Somersett's case in 1772.