Complaints pile up after Rod Liddle's appearance on Newsnight

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Blackleaf said:
No. I acknowledge I was wrong.
Slavery was illegal in Britain way before 1807, as confirmed by Somersett's case in 1772.
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But not in territory controlled by Britain.

I've read contemporary accounts of the British writers in the 1807-1833 timeframe. Your smug satisfaction that you were oh so superior because slavery was outlawed in Britain itself, whilst being allowed in British possessions the world round, is a perfect example of my point that your system has always been shot through with rights for certain groups, and not for others.
 
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Curious Cdn said:
It was an historic mistake to act that way. It wasn't the New Englanders or New Yorkers who were the poblem. For them, it was a brother's war. It was the assholes from Kentucky who were the worst ... their descendants are today's Trump Central.

It's like when the Nazis invaded the Ukraine. They could easily have been welcomed as liberators but over all, their behaviour was so deplorable that lots of Ukranians were happy to see them fall, at the end.
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You should sue Daniel Boone .
 
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Curious Cdn said:
You mean, Davy Crockett?

History isn't your long suit, either.

What is your long suit, pigs?
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Getting under your skin and I am excellent at it . Now run along and scream at the sky . And remember Trump .
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
But not in territory controlled by Britain.
I've read contemporary accounts of the British writers in the 1807-1833 timeframe. Your smug satisfaction that you were oh so superior because slavery was outlawed in Britain itself, whilst being allowed in British possessions the world round, is a perfect example of my point that your system has always been shot through with rights for certain groups, and not for others.
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Although the British abolished it way before the USA and many other nations.

And slavery occurred in the USA, but not in Britain at the time, because the British people were, and had been for centuries, the freest people on Earth.
 
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Blackleaf said:
Although the British abolished it way before the USA and many other nations.
And slavery occurred in the USA, but not in Britain at the time, because the British people were, and had been for centuries, the freest people on Earth.
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The people they ruled over, not so much.
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
The people they ruled over, not so much.
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Well I don't know.


I've already pointed out that American independence was bad for American blacks and slaves. And many former British Empire countries were better off under British rule than they are now. The Indians - twice Cricket World Cup winners, in 1983 and 2011 - would be left without cricket and with sutti had it not been for the British.


There would also be no USA today without the British Empire. The USA owes its very existence to that great institution.
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
Truer words were never spoken. And in every conceivable circumstance, too!
Somebody tell the Chinese emperor.
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The last Chinese emperor was Puyi, in 1912.

He was the last emperor of the Qing Dynasty.

In total, China had 557 emperors, from the Qin Dynasty to the Qing Dynasty.
 
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