http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1088698898525_84108098/?hub=TopStories Cocaine was found on Paul Martin's ship. 83 kilograms of cocaine. Cocaine on Paul Martin's ship in Sydney, Nova Scotia. In Canada. On a ship owned by a prime minister. Do you think that cocaine use will explain his bizarre behaviour the last few days. We don't know. He just won't say. Choose your Canada.
Cocaine found on Paul Martin's ship.
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That vote is no vote at all!
Crosby, of the Mulroney group owned his own steamship lines too and, flew flags of convenience.
When the Dangerous Goods act came in the Canadian Coast Guard were not allowed to inspect Crosby's ships for DG infractions.
There is no amount of dirt you can dig up on Chrietiens or Martins Libertals that cannot be matched, toe to toe with Mulroney's or Harpers group.
I have said it many times before, there is no real difference between the two groups except possibly the goal and how to get there.
Crosby, of the Mulroney group owned his own steamship lines too and, flew flags of convenience.
When the Dangerous Goods act came in the Canadian Coast Guard were not allowed to inspect Crosby's ships for DG infractions.
There is no amount of dirt you can dig up on Chrietiens or Martins Libertals that cannot be matched, toe to toe with Mulroney's or Harpers group.
I have said it many times before, there is no real difference between the two groups except possibly the goal and how to get there.
I was amazed that the investigation was closed in a matter of hours and that Martin did not call for a full inquiry. It does make it look like a cover-up.
I am absolutely stunned by this logic that my guy is a crook so your guy must be a crook too because they are all crooks.
The liberals have governed most of this century so they have to be seen as responsible for the mess Canada has become over the last 25 years. I much prefer the liberals to the conservatives but in a democratic society people need to be held accountable.
I am absolutely stunned by this logic that my guy is a crook so your guy must be a crook too because they are all crooks.
The liberals have governed most of this century so they have to be seen as responsible for the mess Canada has become over the last 25 years. I much prefer the liberals to the conservatives but in a democratic society people need to be held accountable.
The Uncovered Cocaine
In my opinion, no, the Right Honourable Paul Martin was not aware of the issue before it had been uncovered.
I think that the reason he is not requesting an inquery is that, at this point in the election, the less coverage on alleged scandals, the better; if he were to call an inquery, the Honourable Stephen Harper would never let the issue die.
In my opinion, no, the Right Honourable Paul Martin was not aware of the issue before it had been uncovered.
I think that the reason he is not requesting an inquery is that, at this point in the election, the less coverage on alleged scandals, the better; if he were to call an inquery, the Honourable Stephen Harper would never let the issue die.
Re: The Uncovered Cocaine
I agree fully with the first part of your post.
Harper, however, has obviously heard about this, and not used it. He doesn't need an inquiry just to mud-sling. Yet he has not done so.
Anybody sensible knows Martin is not importing drugs.
FiveParadox said:
I agree fully with the first part of your post.
Harper, however, has obviously heard about this, and not used it. He doesn't need an inquiry just to mud-sling. Yet he has not done so.
Anybody sensible knows Martin is not importing drugs.
He might be importing drugs that is the question. I am not saying he did but I must admit that there was no investigation and it was hardly mentioned afterwards. Kind of makes you wonder.
The Liberals would. Harper and Layton are both above that though. It is all speculation and Martin may not have been involved. The reason I brought this up though was just to inform people of something that was swept under the rug and also to show that the Liberals shouldn't sling mud when there is so much ammunition against them.
Knowledge of the Cocaine
The Right Honourable Paul Martin was not on board the ship in person; his vessels are crewed just as any other would be. The Captain of the particular vessel should be held accountable, but not Mr. Martin personally, in my opinion.
The Right Honourable Paul Martin was not on board the ship in person; his vessels are crewed just as any other would be. The Captain of the particular vessel should be held accountable, but not Mr. Martin personally, in my opinion.
Yup, old-fashioned American Right-Wing style Push Polls!
Now we all are supposed to believe Paul Martin is involved in the drug trade. That's how the Right-Wingers defeated John McCain in the South, with a poll intimating he fathered a mixed-race child. It worked too! Never mind the true story that the McCain's had actually adopted a mixed race child from Vietnam.
Now we all are supposed to believe Paul Martin is involved in the drug trade. That's how the Right-Wingers defeated John McCain in the South, with a poll intimating he fathered a mixed-race child. It worked too! Never mind the true story that the McCain's had actually adopted a mixed race child from Vietnam.
I can't understand how anyone could seriously think Paul Martin could have any knowledge of this. By extension, you'd have to conclude that Robert Milton is personally responsible for any smuggled goods on any Air Canada flight.
Get real, folks. Time to grow up, and turn off the TV.
Get real, folks. Time to grow up, and turn off the TV.
Absolutely. And that's worse than using a private clinic and then saying you'd never use a private clinic.
Nixon didn’t have any personal knowledge of Watergate either. It was how he behaved afterward that did him in. Martin was Prime Minister when the cocaine was found on his ship and there was no investigation. That is what is being questioned?
It is not unreasonable to assume that if contraband is found on someone’s property than that person may have some knowledge of it. Usually investigations clear these issues up. There is only one person responsible for the lack of clarity here and that is Paul Martin.
There is no conspiracy just an expectation that in a democracy the rule of law applies equally to all.
It is not unreasonable to assume that if contraband is found on someone’s property than that person may have some knowledge of it. Usually investigations clear these issues up. There is only one person responsible for the lack of clarity here and that is Paul Martin.
There is no conspiracy just an expectation that in a democracy the rule of law applies equally to all.
Wow. So, every time contraband is found on a commercial vessel, a bus, a train, or an aircraft, then the owner of the vessel or vehicle should be assumed to know about it and be responsible until proven otherwise?
You are forgetting, of course, that as PM, Paul Martin does NOT own CSL; as a cabinet minister, his shares were placed in a blind trust. You did think about those details, didn't you?
You are forgetting, of course, that as PM, Paul Martin does NOT own CSL; as a cabinet minister, his shares were placed in a blind trust. You did think about those details, didn't you?
If any of these carriers was exempt from an investigation and there was a link to someone of influence I would be suspicious. It's called accountability. It's no different than if someone had contraband in their car and was crossing the border.
Not certain how blind that trust was as the company did a lot of business with the government and then the amount of business was mistated accidentally.
I would also advocate for a no tolerance for corrupt acts while in public office stance that should be rigorously applied. And this should especially apply to the conservatives as well once they take office. No one gets cut any slack. That is the way it works in the US where politicians actually go to jail.
Not certain how blind that trust was as the company did a lot of business with the government and then the amount of business was mistated accidentally.
I would also advocate for a no tolerance for corrupt acts while in public office stance that should be rigorously applied. And this should especially apply to the conservatives as well once they take office. No one gets cut any slack. That is the way it works in the US where politicians actually go to jail.