Climate Change Research Axed in Australia

Locutus

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I'm sure he must have been banned from redflagdeals for this idiocy.
 

petros

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coldstream

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We need a Tony Abbot in Canada. An independent thinker, free of ideological contrivance.. who can rely on his reason and common sense to address issues.

Harper, Trudeau, Mulcair are all shills for ideologies. We are not well served.
 
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BornRuff

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We need a Tony Abbot in Canada. An independent thinker, free of ideological contrivance.. who can rely on his reason and common sense to address issues.

Harper, Trudeau, are are all shills for ideologies.

What about Abbot makes him different than Harper? They have both done pretty much the exact same thing.
 

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What about Abbot makes him different than Harper? They have both done pretty much the exact same thing.

It'll show over time. Harper is a Free Trade ideologue with little complexity or integrity. Abbott is quite a complex fellow. A former Catholic seminarian who's likely to be more nationalistic.. and pro life. Harper gives lip service only to the the true Conservative cause.. in order to establish a voter demographic to which he provides lip service ONLY.. while pushing radical libertarianism and a Global Free Market agenda.
 

BornRuff

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Abbot also raised taxes though.

Something the Conbots would never accept.

True, that is a good point.

The Conservatives have embraced more targeted tax increases, like taxing income trusts, but they have not put in any sort of blanket tax increase.

It'll show over time. Harper is a Free Trade ideologue with little complexity or integrity. Abbott is quite a complex fellow. A former Catholic seminarian who's likely to be more nationalistic.. and pro life. Harper gives lip service only to the the true Conservative cause.. in order to establish a voter demographic to which he provides lip service ONLY.. while pushing radical libertarianism and a Global Free Market agenda.

I don't know. Everyone is more complex before they take office. The realities of actually trying to govern tend to change that.
 

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Then why did their polling numbers plummet after releasing this plan?

Did you read any part of this thread?

See the polling numbers.

Lol, you must have brain damage. I hope you are just trolling.

Blah, blah, blah.... Piss and moan all you like about tax increases or cut-backs on services. Fact is that the gvt made the decision to get closer to living within their means. I can appreciate that this means very little to you, being one who feels entitled to any, and everything.

All the same, AGW; it's principles, it's proponents, it's policies and most importantly - it's funding have all been kicked to the curb by the people of Australia.

harper got a good start here in Canada with dumping Kyoto... Next step, retract Greenpeace's, Tide's and Forest Ethic's charitable status and dump AGW all together


Abbot also raised taxes though.

Something the Conbots would never accept.

Of course they won't... Tax and spend is a Liberal/NDP ideal
 

BornRuff

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Blah, blah, blah.... Piss and moan all you like about tax increases or cut-backs on services. Fact is that the gvt made the decision to get closer to living within their means. I can appreciate that this means very little to you, being one who feels entitled to any, and everything.

Where did I complain about any tax increases or service cuts?

All the same, AGW; it's principles, it's proponents, it's policies and most importantly - it's funding have all been kicked to the curb by the people of Australia.

That is where we disagree. The government made this choice, not the people in general. And if you look at the polls, the people are not very happy with the choices that this government has made.

harper got a good start here in Canada with dumping Kyoto... Next step, retract Greenpeace's, Tide's and Forest Ethic's charitable status and dump AGW all together

Stuff like that is why I have been saying that Abbot and Harper are not all that different.

Targeting environmental charities for loss of their charitable status would be pretty draconian though.
 

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captain morgan said:
All the same, AGW; it's principles, it's proponents, it's policies and most importantly - it's funding have all been kicked to the curb by the people of Australia.

No they haven't lol
 

captain morgan

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Where did I complain about any tax increases or service cuts?

I have a high-tech internet connection that senses that kind of stuff

That is where we disagree. The government made this choice, not the people in general. And if you look at the polls, the people are not very happy with the choices that this government has made.

Do you suggest that every nation hold a separate referendum on each and every issue?

Aussies voted for buddy and therefore his actions are representative (at least as far as AGW is concerned)

Targeting environmental charities for loss of their charitable status would be pretty draconian though.

The aforementioned ecotards have been playing fast and loose with the rules that they are subject to.... They will get everything they deserve if their status is revoked
 

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Australians didn't vote for buddy, they voted for buddy's policies.

Buddy lied and now he will get excoriated and only last one term.


And that's why Cons don't last long folks.
 

BornRuff

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Do you suggest that every nation hold a separate referendum on each and every issue?

Aussies voted for buddy and therefore his actions are representative (at least as far as AGW is concerned)

Lol, "at least as far as AGW is concerned"? Why that issue specifically? Because that is the one you are focused on?

As you pointed out, they don't have referendums on every specific issue, so the people didn't make this choice. Abbot did.

The aforementioned ecotards have been playing fast and loose with the rules that they are subject to.... They will get everything they deserve if their status is revoked

If they break the rules, they are subject to the same penalties as any other charity.