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Marriott says it will not cancel conference hosted by anti-Muslim hate group

By Abha Bhattarai September 22

The nation’s largest anti-Muslim hate group is scheduled to hold its annual conference at a Marriott International property four miles from the White House, despite pressure from advocacy groups that have been calling on the hotelier to cancel the event.

ACT for America, which has promoted its ties to the Trump administration, is hosting a two-day conference at the Crystal Gateway Marriott in Arlington, Va., on Oct. 2 and 3. The group’s website says the event will be “the nation’s largest national security-focused grass-roots gathering.”

It was not clear how many people would attend, but ACT for America — which is classified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center — says it has 750,000 members.

Marriott said it will not cancel the conference.

“We are a hospitality company that provides public accommodations and function space,” a Marriott spokesman said in an email. “Acceptance of business does not indicate support or endorsement of any group or individual.”

Muslim Advocates, a civil rights group, says it sent a letter to Arne M. Sorenson, Marriott’s president and chief executive, on Sept. 11 asking him to reconsider the company’s stance on the event.

“Marriott clearly and proudly states on its website that ‘diversity and inclusion is fundamental to our core values and strategic business goals,’ ” the letter said. “We believe that hosting this anti-Muslim convention is antithetical to this otherwise clear commitment.”

A spokesman for the group said he was disappointed that Marriott had decided to move ahead with the event.

“Given Marriott’s commitment to being inclusive and diverse, we were optimistic that they would do the right thing here,” said Scott Simpson, public advocacy director for Muslim Advocates. “This is very incongruous with their stance as a company.”

Sorenson has been an outspoken critic of President Trump’s travel ban affecting citizens from Muslim-majority countries, and has publicly criticized the president’s plans to build a wall on the Mexican border.

[Marriott CEO: It’s time to make traveling to the United States easier]

As a company, Marriott, which is the world’s largest hotel chain, has also been proactive in its stance on LGBT issues, immigration reform and other social and political issues. In 2010, the company called off plans to host a conference organized by the white nationalist group American Renaissance at the Washington Dulles Marriott. (A number of other hotels, including the Westin Washington Dulles Hotel and the Four Points by Sheraton Manassas Battlefield did the same.)

Marriott’s decision to host the event comes after other corporations have publicly refused to do business with white supremacists and hate groups. The home-sharing service Airbnb recently refused to accommodate people who were attending last month’s white supremacist rally in Charlottesville. Shortly after, GoDaddy, CloudFlare and Google said they would sever ties with the neo-Nazi site Daily Stormer.

According to ACT for America’s website, its two-day conference and legislative briefing will include talks from national security experts and meetings with lawmakers. Former Trump spokeswoman Katrina Pierson will give the keynote address at the event’s awards luncheon.

“ACT for America’s mission is clear,” the site said. “Political correctness and cowardness has no place in America. We proudly stand strong on our Judeo-Christian foundation. We will not be silenced. We will not fail.”

The Crystal Gateway Marriott’s website showed that it was hosting the event. Act for America’s site says the hotel is offering a discounted nightly rate of $250 for attendees from Oct. 1 to Oct. 5.

ACT for America’s annual conference, which it calls ACTCON 2017, had previously been held at the Omni Shoreham Hotel in Northwest Washington in 2013, 2015 and 2016. A spokeswoman at the hotel said she was not sure why ACT for America had moved its event this year. She declined to give her name or title.

“We have enjoyed a great working relationship with them, and my suspicion is that their move to another hotel was a space issue,” she said. “There was no controversy around hosting them, and we would welcome them back, just as we would any group.”

ACT for America, founded a decade ago by Brigitte Gabriel, a Lebanese-born Christian, has forged close ties with the Trump administration.

“ACT for America has a direct line to Donald Trump,” Gabriel wrote in a fundraising email last year. The group, she added, “has played a fundamental role in shaping his views and suggested policies with respect to radical Islam.”

The group was also behind anti-Muslim demonstrations across the country this summer that attracted white supremacist groups.

“I don’t believe in having Muslims in the United States,” Francisco Rivera, of the white supremacist group Vanguard America, said at one of the demonstrations. “Their culture is incompatible with ours.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...t-845pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.e4c576782b36

So here's what's happening, children. Marriott, a private company, has made a "controversial" decision to host a conference by what the Southern Poverty Law Center, another private company, has called a hate group.

So. . . BOO, Marriott, and YAY, SPLC, right?

Maybe not. Marriott has in the past taken some nice hefty-lefty positions. Read the whole article, for once.

But here's the civics lesson. This ain't about the government, it's about society. Will Marriott suffer for its decision? We'll have to see. Depends on how passionate the various sides are, whether they put their money where their mouths are, and whether they have enough money to provide clout.

Point for discussion: For the folks that wail about "money in politics," does this demonstrate that money is in everything, and trying to eliminate it from politics would be as artificial and weird as trying to play hockey without a puck.

Advanced students: this is also a study on how to walk bias right up to the "National Inquirer" line, but, in my opinion, not over the line. Though as we can see, the line ain't nearly where it was back in Cronk's day.
 

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I notice not many people have taken you up on your offer. They're too busy with the conspiracy about pedophiles and big pharma, I guess.
 

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I notice not many people have taken you up on your offer. They're too busy with the conspiracy about pedophiles and big pharma, I guess.

I like to give the opportunity for serious debate. Why, I recollect one thread where we had EIGHT serious, thoughtful posts before the Stupid Patrol broke it up.
 
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As a public company, they have an obligation to provide services to everyone, not just those they agree with. People need to consider this, if this was an lgbtq conference and Marriott bowed under pressure from the right wing Christian lobby, people would go ballistic. This, in reality, is no different. ACT has every right to hold this conference, and every right to lobby the government to restrict Muslim, or any groups, immigration to the U.S. As to whether their position is morally correct, that is not for Marriott, as a company, to decide.
 

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As a public company, they have an obligation to provide services to everyone, not just those they agree with. People need to consider this, if this was an lgbtq conference and Marriott bowed under pressure from the right wing Christian lobby, people would go ballistic. This, in reality, is no different. ACT has every right to hold this conference, and every right to lobby the government to restrict Muslim, or any groups, immigration to the U.S. As to whether their position is morally correct, that is not for Marriott, as a company, to decide.
I will not argue whether or not they have a moral or social obligation, but they do not have a legal obligation in the U.S. Political position is not a protected class in our civil rights laws.
 

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If a hate group tried to rent out my barn to hold a conference I would refuse even if it cost me money. Cheers!
 

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If a hate group tried to rent out my barn to hold a conference I would refuse even if it cost me money. Cheers!

I'd rent half the barn to the hate group and the other half to their polar opposites. Charge them both a lot of money and make em put down some hefty deposits too.

And then use the money to build a new barn after the conference.
 

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I notice not many people have taken you up on your offer. They're too busy with the conspiracy about pedophiles and big pharma, I guess.

As usual you guessed wrong
But, you should pay more attention to them, you come across as one of their victims too.

Those christian bakers got NAILED for not serving lesbians a wedding cake, so what the hell is T-bones talkin about LAW here for?

Oregon bakery that refused to make wedding cake for lesbian couple because of religious beliefs closes after legal battles leave business in financial ruins
Oregon bakery that refused to make wedding cake for lesbian couple closes after legal battles | Daily Mail Online

I guess Mariott actually has lawyers that they can count on to have a clue...
and they need to stay in business long enough to pay them.
 

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I would agree. But I'd decide for myself whether or not they were a hate group.

Ya that can be the difficult part so you have to ask them trick questions like - how does a Muslims put their pants on - if their answer isn't - one leg at a time like every one else - you can start suspecting their haters. Cheers!
 

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I love the way people who come from a slave using culture like the cherokee think they have the right to tell other people they hate what the proper emotions to have about anyone else should be.

thats postivley frickin INSANE

Marriott refuses to cancel conference booking by anti-Muslim hate group
The conference's professed aim is to discuss fighting the 'leftist Islamic coalition'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-crystal-gateway-hotel-virginia-a7962691.html

So political opposition to political group organized around religion is hate eh?

Thats just so damn Nazi - that was their excuse for the GAS CHAMBERS
 

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I will not argue whether or not they have a moral or social obligation, but they do not have a legal obligation in the U.S. Political position is not a protected class in our civil rights laws.


Does this also mean that Marriott, if they so chose, could refuse an lgbtq conference?

I love the way people who come from a slave using culture like the cherokee think they have the right to tell other people they hate what the proper emotions to have about anyone else should be.

thats postivley frickin INSANE

Marriott refuses to cancel conference booking by anti-Muslim hate group
The conference's professed aim is to discuss fighting the 'leftist Islamic coalition'
Marriott refuses to cancel conference booking by anti-Muslim hate group | The Independent

So political opposition to political group organized around religion is hate eh?

Thats just so damn Nazi - that was their excuse for the GAS CHAMBERS



You really have comprehension problems, don't you. Where did TB make any statements, pro or con, in the op. It was put up for discussion, that's it. How about you grab a brain and them come back.
 

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Does this also mean that Marriott, if they so chose, could refuse an lgbtq conference?
Under Federal law, yes. But states and local jurisdictions are permitted to pass their own civil rights laws, and many if not most have made discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation illegal.
 

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Why would I object to you being carted away?
Interesting to see the KKK only has to change who the hate before they become heroes to all of the US.

Let's have a look at who is funding these fuktards.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/20/islamophobia-funding-cair-berkeley-report
The core group, which includes the Abstraction Fund, Clarion Project, David Horowitz Freedom Center, Middle East Forum, American Freedom Law Center, Center for Security Policy, Investigative Project on Terrorism, Jihad Watch and Act! for America, had access to almost $206m of funding between 2008 and 2013, the report said.

Abstraction Fund - Powerbase
Donors

In 2012 the Fund had one donor, the William Rosenwald Family Fund which donated $2,654,334.[3]




Grant recipients

Grant recipients of the Abstraction Fund in $ USD [4] Organisation 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 Total 2009-2015 Atlantic Bridge - 10,000 - - - - - 10,000 American Freedom Law Center - - - - 5,000 5,000 - 10,000 American Friends of the Henry Jackson Society - - 10,000 - - - - 10,000 American Friends of IDC - - - - - 5,000 - 5,000 American Friends Keshet Eilon - - 1,000 5,000 2,000 2,000 - 10,000 American Friends of Tel Aviv University - - - 1,100 10,925 50,000 - 62,025 American Islamic Congress - - 5,000 - - - - 5,000 American Islamic Forum for Democracy - 5,000 10,000 30,000 20,000 20,000 - 85,000 CAMERA 10,000 13,900 15,000 82,080 40,000 50,000 - 200,980 Center Democracy and Human Rights in Saudi Arabia - - - 11,000 - - - 11,000 Center for Islamic Pluralism - - - 20,000 10,000 10,000 - 40,000 Center for Security Policy 25,000 1,500 - 10,000 5,000 - - 16,500 Central Fund of Israel 10,000 25,000 10,000 30,000 20,000 25,000 - 110,000 Christians for Fair Witness on the Middle East - 8,000 - - - - - 8,000 The Claremont Institute - 750 - - - - - 750 Clarion Fund 10,000 - - - 10,000 - - 10,000 Commentary - 2,500 - 5,000 5,000 4,500 - 17,000 Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations - 10,000 - 20,000 - - - 30,000 Darfur Human Rights Organization - 500 - - - - - 500 David Horowitz Freedom Center 6,000 5,000 10,000 22,750 - 55,000 - 92,750 Foundation for Defense of Democracies 15,000 10,000 20,000 - 20,000 - - 50,000 Foundation for Democracy in Iran - 2,000 - - - - - 2,000 Friends of Israel Initiative - - - 40,000 50,000 50,000 - 140,000 Fuel for Truth - - - 20,000 25,000 1,000 - 46,000 Gatestone Institute - - - - - 1,015,000 550,000 1,565,000 Hadassah - - - - 50,000 - - 50,000 Honest Reporting 1,000 - 500 5,000 5,000 - - 10,500 Hoover Institution - - - - - 5,000 - 5,000 Hudson Institute 155,000 151,325 170,000 - - - - 321,325 Institute for Policy Research - - - - - 25,000 - 25,000 Investigative Project on Terrorism 15,000 36,000 - 25,000 25,000 - - 86,000 Israel Project - - - 5,000 15,000 - - 20,000 Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs - - 20,000 20,000 30,000 30,000 - 100,000 Jewish Community Relations Council - - - - - 20,000 - 20,000 Jihad Watch - - - 5,000 - 5,000 - 10,000 Manhattan Institute - 25,000 - - - - - 25,000 Middle East Forum 95,000 246,500 345,000 1,212,000 1,042,000 331,000 - 3,176,500 Middle East Media Research Institute 10,000 30,000 25,000 40,000 10,000 30,000 - 135,000 National Committee on American Foreign Policy - - 20,000 - 10,000 5,000 - 35,000 National Review Institute - - - - 10,000 34,700 - 44,700 StandWithUs - - - 3,000 - - - 3,000 Zionist Organization of America 10,000 5,000 5,000 - - - - 10,000

Jewish money funding Muslim hate groups, that is just the first one in the list, the others will show whether he is a loner or part of an organized hate group when they go ballistic if a hate group was being organized with them as the object of scorn. Doing it through shell corporations shows even they know they are doing a sick thing. If Jews want the respect they should earn it like everybody else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Rosenwald
Biography

He was a philanthropist who helped establish the nationwide United Jewish Appeal in 1939 and made other charitable grants through the William Rosenwald Family Fund. His father was Julius Rosenwald, the former chairman of Sears, Roebuck and Company and a leading philanthropist whose Rosenwald Fund built 5,000 schools for black children in the South a few decades after the Civil War.
William Rosenwald was born in Wilmette, Illinois in 1903 to Julius Rosenwald and the former Augusta Nusbaum. He attended the MIT Sloan School of Management, where he earned a bachelor of science degree in 1924. Rosenwald also attended Harvard University for a year as well as the London School of Economics. He was employed by Sears, Roebuck starting in 1928, and was a director of the firm from 1934 to 1938.[1]
It was also in 1928 that Rosenwald married his first wife, Renee Scharf, daughter of Austrian painter Viktor Scharf II.
He organized a family effort in the mid-1930s to provide assistance to relatives in Europe affected by the rise of Nazi Germany. By 1948 over 300 individuals had been brought to the United States and provided with work and places to live. An additional 300 family members in Europe were also provided for. In a 1935 interview, Rosenwald stated that "There is the thought in my mind -- and that I would like to get across to the Jews of America -- that to the extent that the Jews as a whole help their suffering brethren, we will fortify the Jews of all countries against anti-Semitic onslaughts." He organized the National Refugee Service (later a part of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society) in 1939, to help resettle refugees.[1]
In 1938, Rosenwald married Mary Kurtz, his second wife, with whom he had three daughters. Kurtz died in 1985.
In January 1939, Rosenwald's National Coordinating Committee Fund joined with Rabbi Jonah Wise of the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee, Rabbi Abba Hillel Silver of the United Palestine Appeal, to form the United Jewish Appeal for Refugees and Overseas Needs.[2] The founders emphasized that the funds needed to support Jews in Europe and Palestine would be triple to quadruple the amount raised in the previous year. While the organizations would raise funds together, the Joint Distribution Committee would assist Jews in Europe, the United Palestine Appeal would aid the Jewish community in Palestine, including refugees from Europe arriving there and the National Coordinating Committee Fund would assist refugees arriving in the United States.[2] From 1942 to 1946, Rosenwald was one of the UJA's three national chairmen, leading the first campaign to raise more than $100 million, and led campaigns again from 1955 to 1957.[1]
In 1974, Rosenwald oversaw the merger of the joint campaign between United Jewish Appeal of Greater New York and the Federation of Jewish Philanthropies and was named as the first president of the combined campaign.[1][3] This joint fundraising campaign by the two philanthropic organizations was the first step in the complete merger of the organizations in 1986.
Rosenwald served on the board of the Tuskegee Institute for 40 years and was a longtime board member of the New York Philharmonic. He served on the executive committee of the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee for five decades and was an active leader of the American Jewish Committee and the Council of Jewish Federations, among many other organizations.[1]
Rosenwald died at age 93 on October 31, 1996 at his apartment on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.[1] Rosenwald was survived by his three daughters, Nina Rosenwald being one of them, and five grandchildren.

https://clarionproject.org/about-us/
Ryan Mauro

Clarion Project: Fake "Terror Expert" Ryan Mauro Refuted By Chicago-Area Police | loonwatch.com
The Tribune article doesn’t note any of the points Media Matters reported about the dubious character of the Clarion Project/Fund or Ryan Mauro.
Ryan Mauro is the national security analyst for the Clarion Project, a group that bills itself as “a nonprofit organization that educates the public about the threat of Islamic extremism and provides a platform for voices of moderation and tolerance within the Muslim community.”
In reality, Clarion Project/Fund is a Zionist organization funded by the extremist Israeli settler-colonial organization Aish HaTorah and was behind the distribution of the vile Islamophobic movie, Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against The West.
Its supposed claim to provide “a platform for voices of moderation and tolerance within the Muslim community” really translates to supporting those former or fringe Muslims, such as Zuhdi Jasser, who agree with Clarion Fund’s pro-Zionist and Islamophobic stances and policies.
Oak Brook police and administration fact checked Mauro’s claims about their town and asked him and the Clarion Project to substantiate and correct their misleading claims, which in the usual manner of Islamophobes and bigots they did not.

Raheel Raza

Paula Kweskin, Yoni Weiss - Wedding - The New York Times
Persistence (and a bluff) pays off.
Paula Allison Kweskin, the daughter of Wendy Kramer Kweskin and Joel David Kweskin of Charlotte, N.C., was married Tuesday to Jonathan Weiss, a son of D’vorah Weiss and Rabbi Mordechai Weiss of West Hartford, Conn., at Sakoya, an event space in Jerusalem. Rabbi Levi Cooper, a brother-in-law of the groom, performed the ceremony, and the groom’s father assisted.

https://clarionproject.org/about-us/
Ryan Mauro

Clarion Project: Fake "Terror Expert" Ryan Mauro Refuted By Chicago-Area Police | loonwatch.com
The Tribune article doesn’t note any of the points Media Matters reported about the dubious character of the Clarion Project/Fund or Ryan Mauro.
Ryan Mauro is the national security analyst for the Clarion Project, a group that bills itself as “a nonprofit organization that educates the public about the threat of Islamic extremism and provides a platform for voices of moderation and tolerance within the Muslim community.”
In reality, Clarion Project/Fund is a Zionist organization funded by the extremist Israeli settler-colonial organization Aish HaTorah and was behind the distribution of the vile Islamophobic movie, Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against The West.
Its supposed claim to provide “a platform for voices of moderation and tolerance within the Muslim community” really translates to supporting those former or fringe Muslims, such as Zuhdi Jasser, who agree with Clarion Fund’s pro-Zionist and Islamophobic stances and policies.
Oak Brook police and administration fact checked Mauro’s claims about their town and asked him and the Clarion Project to substantiate and correct their misleading claims, which in the usual manner of Islamophobes and bigots they did not.

Raheel Raza

Paula Kweskin, Yoni Weiss - Wedding - The New York Times
Persistence (and a bluff) pays off.
Paula Allison Kweskin, the daughter of Wendy Kramer Kweskin and Joel David Kweskin of Charlotte, N.C., was married Tuesday to Jonathan Weiss, a son of D’vorah Weiss and Rabbi Mordechai Weiss of West Hartford, Conn., at Sakoya, an event space in Jerusalem. Rabbi Levi Cooper, a brother-in-law of the groom, performed the ceremony, and the groom’s father assisted.
 

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David Horowitz Freedom Center
Horowitz has been married four times. He married Elissa Krauthamer, in a Yonkers, New York, synagogue on June 14, 1959.[48] They had four children together: Jonathan Daniel, Ben, Sarah Rose (deceased), and Mrs. Anne Pilat. Their daughter Sarah Rose Horowitz died in March 2008 at age 44 from Turner syndrome-related heart complications. She had been a teacher, writer and human rights activist.[1][49] She is the subject of Horowitz's 2009 book, A Cracking of the Heart.[49]

So far 2/2 puts Jews in the drivers seats of the first two hate groups that target Muslims rather than it being Muslims trying to to clean up radical Islam.

This makes it 3/3 for anybody capable of counting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pipes#Awards_and_honors
In 2003, Pipes was awarded an honorary doctorate from Yeshiva University.[70]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshiva_University
Yeshiva University is a private, non-profit Jewish research university located in New York City, United States, with four campuses in New York City.[3]

American Freedom Law Center
David Yerushalmi, Esq.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Yerushalmi

An observant Orthodox Jew from Brooklyn, Yerushalmi has been highly critical of liberal Jews, "progressive elites", and black people.[2]

Clearly the OP needs to do some homework before supporting radicals. There is also a high possibility that he did do his homework and he still supports this insanity as it is his ticket to the good life. Getting drunk in Paris as he would not be so welcome in Israel. I hope he knows that.

4/4 now

5/5 and this crowd calls itself informed, typical bullshit from the collective that specialized in nothing but bullshit from start to finish.

https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/about-us/
Frank Gaffney

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Gaffney

Gaffney has been associated with David Yerushalmi for being responsible in spreading misinformation about Islam and for encouraging the enactment of anti-Muslim laws, including anti-Sharia legislation in the United States.[23]



Gaffney contributes to the media site Newsmax, writing opinion pieces on topics such as politics, terrorism, and international affairs in a column titled "Security Watch."[15] Gaffney wrote a column for The Washington Times from 2012 to 2016,[16] and for Jewish World Review from 2000 to 2013.[17] He is also the host of Secure Freedom Radio, a nationally-syndicated radio program[18] and podcast which has featured guests such as Newt Gingrich, John R. Bolton, and white nationalist Jared Taylor.[19][20][21]