Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guilty

[GL Schmitt]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

I know it is un-American and unpatriotic to have a memory, but as far back as I can recall, there have been picketers and demonstrators outside the White House for one reason or another: pro and con civil rights, pro and con nuke testing, pro and con Vietnam War, pro and con ERA, pro and con Iraq War I, pro and con Clinton Scandals 1 through 27. . . . then suddenly you need a permit to protest?

Doesn’t that kind of negate the concept of “protest” if you must get “permission?”

As far as I understood it, provided they were not obstructing traffic, did not defecate on the sidewalk, and refrained from mooning the tourists, they were left alone.

I cannot guarantee that some of the aforementioned protesters did not fill out a permit, but I am damn sure that they ALL did not fill out a permit.

For one thing, I am quite certain that most of the anti civil rights protesters were illiterate.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

She should also be charged with obstruction of justice for lying in regards to breaking the law.

dang!!NJ........wish you would apply the same set of laws to the criminal in the oval office who lies to kill people. Compared to him...........her actions are a mere nuthin' (and this same criminal is the biggest "obstructionist" ever to walk the halls of the whitehouse.

so ........if ya is going to preach the law........ be sure it applies to everyone equally.

Maybe if one of bush's daughters had been killed in HIS fecking invasion............he might be singing a different tune. He might also be more law abiding himself.

 

[Ursula42]

RE: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

Pretty funny that. Who owns the White House? That is the $64 bazillion dollar question. Still, it was Canadians who made the white house. Yep, they stoved it up, whitewashed it, made it stand all ship shape.
Isn't in hilarious how our "brothers across the border" tend to be so forgetful?
Canadians built the White House. Most likely believing in the new-found Constitution and trusting that that would be pretty much it. Neighbours are neighbours, friends are friends, laws are laws.... all good.
Were Canadians fools? I don't think so. Still, Canadians got the White House underway and so she sails.

 

[Said1]

RE: Cindy Sheehan ... Mor

OK, here it is....in the United States, you need a permit to march if your group is larger than 25. Here is a case, detaling regulations and situtions inwhich the permit can be revoked. Find Law

 

[peapod]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

Whata want a gold star?? Woooooshhhhhhh! is this completely over your head?? Who cares about the point of law, she EARNED the right to protest, and in what better place.

Ya, I know I am being judgmental, tough merde!

 

[Cosmo]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

I've refrained from commenting on the Sheehan situation for a couple of reasons. First, I have no children so I have no idea what that mother is feeling. Second, any discussion containing the words "Bush" and "war" together is an exercise is futility. You don't gotta be the great Kreskin to realize the entire war was a put up to support his own agenda. I guess even presidents of the US are not immune to acting out to garner Daddy's approval.

The issue seems to have veered off into a new realm, though. If someone wrote a fiction novel about a woman taking on the president and actually getting attention, it would be hard to suspend my disbelief long enough to read it. Truth is, as they say, stranger than fiction. Apparently Bush is such a bully that he will turn on a grieving mother as quickly as he will turn on manufactured terrorism. How sad for that country to be led by someone who's ego is so out of control.

All I know for sure is that if the government dragged my little dog off to sniff bombs and had her blown up, I'd be doing a hell of a lot more than a peaceful protest. I can't even begin to imagine the insanity if I had a child and that happened to me. I figure the woman is doing exceptionally well in the self-restraint department. What surprises me is that there hasn't been a group of grieving parents finding a way to lynch that war mongerer.

 

[Said1]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

Whata want a gold star?? Woooooshhhhhhh! is this completely over your head?? Who cares about the point of law, she EARNED the right to protest, and in what better place.

Ya, I know I am being judgmental, tough merde!

Feel better?

Contrary to what YOU might think, there are some who might be interested - is that *woooosh* completely over your head? Those with authority use the law for the most despicalbe purposes, including trying to silence those who are acting in a peaceful manner and interacting with others in a respectful way. Some may also want to look at the actual laws to see if Cindy was infact abiding by the rules set out to those who wish to protest. Got it?

 

[Nascar_James]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

What surprises me is that there hasn't been a group of grieving parents finding a way to lynch that war mongerer.

Well Cosmo, most parents who have kids in the armed forces here are very patriotic. Badmouthing the war effort affects troop morale and ultimately their performance. That is why Cindy et Al are extreme fringe elements not representative of the mainstream society here. Thinking only about themselves and not about the consequences of their actions on our brave troops who are fighting a war.

Patriotism is still very high here in the US. That is why Cindy and her few followers are cast aside as unpatriotic troublemakers.

 

[GL Schmitt]

Re: RE: Cindy Sheehan ... Mor

OK, here it is..... .

Sorry, but actually, all your link did for me, was to send me to a page that offered to “Find a Lawyer” or show me the way to “Free Antivirus Downloads.”

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

Patriotism is still very high here in the US.

like that is a "good" thing .... :roll: How many nations put as much value on "patriotism"......(however one wishes to define it) as the US does?? Which nations in history put such an over emphasis on "patriotism".........only to bite the dust due to excesses of all kinds... mostly that pathological pride.

maybe that is part of the problem in the US .....it is a country of EXTREMES. Xtremely "patriotic"..... Xtremely RICH. Xtremely POOR. Xtremely "pious ". Xtremely CRIMINAL. Xtremely war oriented. Xtremely GUN oriented.

seems the u.s. has not learned the wisdom of moderation and BALANCE.

 

[GL Schmitt]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

Well Cosmo, most parents who have kids in the armed forces here are very patriotic.. . .

No, Jimbo.

Much like the Vietnam War, the parents of children who have died in the Iraq War 2 are in denial. They refuse to accept that the war which claimed their child’s life, and which they possibly counselled their child to enter, or at least did not strongly enough oppose them entering, was all for nothing.

Their child died to protect the country against a peril which was founded upon a lie.

That is why, Cindy Sheehan is such a menace to George Bush's administration. The longer she continues, the more she forces other grieving parents to open their eyes and see how hollow their sacrifice really is.

People resist having their illusions shattered, so much of the most vehement opposition to Cindy Sheehan comes from parents still lashing out at anyone telling them what they already know, but refuse to acknowledge.

As Cindy Sheehan continues her demonstrations, more and more parents will surrender their delusions, and open their eyes to the actual situation.

When they do, are you so gormless as to believe they will not represent a most uncompromising and implacable foe to the president and all his advisors?

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Cindy Sheehan ... Mor

OK, here it is..... .

Sorry, but actually, all your link did for me, was to send me to a page that offered to “Find a Lawyer” or show me the way to “Free Antivirus Downloads.”

Sooo, the link didn't work. Ooops. :roll:

Here's something from the Washington Post. Notice how 28 people were arrested?

 

[Cosmo]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

Well Cosmo, most parents who have kids in the armed forces here are very patriotic. Badmouthing the war effort affects troop morale and ultimately their performance. That is why Cindy et Al are extreme fringe elements not representative of the mainstream society here. Thinking only about themselves and not about the consequences of their actions on our brave troops who are fighting a war.

Patriotism is still very high here in the US. That is why Cindy and her few followers are cast aside as unpatriotic troublemakers.

I don't get it, Nascar. How could a parent put a questionable cause above the welfare of their child???? If a parent put their kid in harm's way under any other circumstance, they'd be vilified.

Sounds like some weird brainwashing to me. "Give me your kids to kill and be killed all in the name of my cause." Yet no one gets to say whether they think the cause is just or not. Bush decided to move ahead with his "shock and awe" on some pretty shakey principles and the parents are supposed to offer up their young without protest? We look back at ancient civilizations who sacrificed children to gods and deem them savage. I really don't see the difference here.

 

[moghrabi]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

I really don't see the difference here.

You can't see the difference, Cosmo because there is no difference. The Americans are acting like the old civilizations and offering their children to their God (Bush).

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

Cosmo and Mog....... Absolutely spot on. Even the word "sacrafice".........is primitive when it applies to military deaths.

America IS backward.........as a population. Tech advances mean nothing .......except it makes a population even lazier. (regressive ) Since when is "sacrificing" a life or lives for anything.........a "good " thing??? And who is it good for???

GL....... very well analysed.... (IMHO).

the more one delves into this.....discusses it......the more the dynamic clarifies. Quite fascinating.[/i]

 

[I think not]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

Patriotism is still very high here in the US.

like that is a "good" thing .... :roll: How many nations put as much value on "patriotism"......(however one wishes to define it) as the US does?? Which nations in history put such an over emphasis on "patriotism".........only to bite the dust due to excesses of all kinds... mostly that pathological pride.

maybe that is part of the problem in the US .....it is a country of EXTREMES. Xtremely "patriotic"..... Xtremely RICH. Xtremely POOR. Xtremely "pious ". Xtremely CRIMINAL. Xtremely war oriented. Xtremely GUN oriented.

seems the u.s. has not learned the wisdom of moderation and BALANCE.

And let's not forget Xtremely indifferent to Xtreme views such as your own.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

Patriotism is still very high here in the US.

like that is a "good" thing .... :roll: How many nations put as much value on "patriotism"......(however one wishes to define it) as the US does?? Which nations in history put such an over emphasis on "patriotism".........only to bite the dust due to excesses of all kinds... mostly that pathological pride.

maybe that is part of the problem in the US .....it is a country of EXTREMES. Xtremely "patriotic"..... Xtremely RICH. Xtremely POOR. Xtremely "pious ". Xtremely CRIMINAL. Xtremely war oriented. Xtremely GUN oriented.

seems the u.s. has not learned the wisdom of moderation and BALANCE.

And let's not forget Xtremely indifferent to Xtreme views such as your own.

:lol: :lol:

cute!

 

[GL Schmitt]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

And let's not forget Xtremely indifferent to Xtreme views such as your own.

You are patriotic to W’s war

You X out anyone who opposes your brand of patriotism

You can’t really explain Y

I appears as if your patriotism is bringing you pretty close to the end

 

[Nascar_James]

Re: Cindy Sheehan ... More of Her Lunacy ... Pleads Not Guil

Well Cosmo, most parents who have kids in the armed forces here are very patriotic.. . .

No, Jimbo.

Much like the Vietnam War, the parents of children who have died in the Iraq War 2 are in denial. They refuse to accept that the war which claimed their child’s life, and which they possibly counselled their child to enter, or at least did not strongly enough oppose them entering, was all for nothing.

Their child died to protect the country against a peril which was founded upon a lie.

That is why, Cindy Sheehan is such a menace to George Bush's administration. The longer she continues, the more she forces other grieving parents to open their eyes and see how hollow their sacrifice really is.

People resist having their illusions shattered, so much of the most vehement opposition to Cindy Sheehan comes from parents still lashing out at anyone telling them what they already know, but refuse to acknowledge.

As Cindy Sheehan continues her demonstrations, more and more parents will surrender their delusions, and open their eyes to the actual situation.

When they do, are you so gormless as to believe they will not represent a most uncompromising and implacable foe to the president and all his advisors?

Firstly GL, how in the world can someone who clearly appears unstable and at times incoherent cause any trouble for the Bush administration. That is too funny. Secondly, most parents who have lost a kid in the war on terror, do not rant and rave like a bunch of lunatics and denounce the war like miss Sheehan does. Even if they do disagree with the war (some of them do), they think about the other troops that are still fighting and howe their actions may affect their morale. These parents are also for the most part very patriotic to their country. Unlike miss Sheehan. All she cares about is being in the spotlight, nothing more.

 

[moghrabi]

RE: Cindy Sheehan ... Mor

She did not choose to lose her son to be in the spot light, Nero. She lost her son for a war based on lies and greed. She decided to be in the spotlight so she can expose your bastard president.