Chirac's horror over burning woman

[Curiosity]

Has anyone been following the terrorist attacks going on in France right now? This is one story of many....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/30/wparis30.xml

Chirac's horror as woman burnt in riot

Last Updated: 10:10am GMT 30/10/2006

by Peter Allen in Paris



Riot police reinforcements were deployed in Marseille last night after the latest outbreak of urban violence in France left a young woman in a critical condition with life-threatening burns.

A French policeman stands beside a burnt bus in the suburbs of MarseillePresident Jacques Chirac expressed his horror at the attack hours after the 26-year-old woman and three others were ambushed by rioting teenagers while travelling on a bus in the southern port city.
The assailants – said by some witnesses to be as young as 15 – forced the vehicle's doors open, spilled flammable liquid inside, and set it alight.
There were similar attacks in major cities across the country at the weekend, just hours after the passing of the anniversary of the rioting and car-burning that brought terror to urban areas last year.
In a statement referring to the Marseilles attack, Mr Chirac's office said: "The president told the victim's family about his horror concerning this shameful act and assured them everything would be done to find the criminals and punish them with the utmost severity."
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The woman, who was not immediately named, was yesterday in intensive care in hospital. Those attacked with her were suffering from burns and the effects of smoke inhalation.
The Marseilles prosecutor, Jacques Beaume, said: "The young woman is in a very serious condition – hovering between life and death."
Local officials said some extra 160 officers were being sent to Marseille, which remained largely untouched by last year's riots. They said police would enforce a "zero tolerance" policy in troublesome neighbourhoods.
The three weeks of national disturbances last year caused more than £140 million of damage, with thousands of vehicles and public buildings burned. Immigrant communities from socially deprived backgrounds, especially from north Africa, were largely blamed for the trouble.
This year 4,000 extra police were drafted into the suburbs of Paris to deal with a new threat. Ambushes occurred on the outskirts of the capital, with three policeman badly injured by Molotov cocktails in the suburb of Grigny on Saturday. Masked youths, some brandishing hand guns, attacked buses in the north-eastern Parisian suburb of Blanc-Mesnil.
On Friday, 277 vehicles were set on fire across the country. Police said riot officers and youths had clashed in Reims and Toulouse.
Last year's riots were sparked by the deaths in the Paris suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois of Zyed Benna, 17, and Bouna Traore, 15, both from families of African descent. They were electrocuted as they hid in an electricity sub-station while fleeing from police. Night after night youths, most of them from poor Muslim families, clashed with police in some 275 towns, until order was officially restored on Nov 17.
On Friday, more than 1,000 people made a silent march past the spot where the two teenagers died.
Police and suburban mayors have warned that the conditions that led to the riots remain firmly in place in districts plagued by unemployment of up to 40 per cent.

Urban violence they call it..... too afraid to give it the real name.... attacks of terrorists groups

 

[Sassylassie]

Curio I've been following the headlines in France for a year now and France has lost control of the situation. Armed groups of youths taking control over total communities, forcing Extreme Islam down the throats of Moderates and forcing non Muslim's out of those communities. What's France doing, appeasing the Criminals and Terrorist. France will be the next country to fall to Extreme Islam, give it ten years and it will be an Islamic State. The same is happening Germany, but Germany is trying to get a grip on the fanatics. Britain is also another Country on the cusp of sliding into Extremism, but it would rather pretend it's not happening.

 

[DurkaDurka]

They need to declare martial law when this sort of crap happens, shoot offenders on the spot, no questions asked.

 

[Colpy]

The authorities need to cordon off the areas involved (using the military if necessary), declare a strict curfew, pass legislation allowing the police to shoot fleeing suspects, and simply move in and arrest everyone involved.......hold them until their citizenship can be established, eject those not French, remove the citizenship of those not BORN French, eject all non-French citizens caught, and try the rest for rioting, assault, whatever.

 

[Sassylassie]

Here's an article that goes into the issue a little more indepth. France has had a year to deal with these radical youths and instead it pandered and appeased and for this innocents are suffering. Bring in a water cannon and shoot the little pluckers. A bath and a problem solved all in one day.

Lorne Gunter
National Post
Monday, October 30, 2006

Social housing must be counted as one of the greatest failures -- and there are many -- of the "progressive" thinking of the 1960s and 1970s.

Nearly everywhere large public housing projects have been built, they have become incubators for crime, drug dependence, fatherless families, unemployment and welfare. Rather than lifting minorities out of poverty, social housing has herded them together where they are easier prey for bad people and bad ideas.

So, at least some of the troubles in the Paris banlieues (suburbs) in recent years can be attributed to France's version of mass public accommodation.

It is true, the vast majority of rioters, criminals and agitators in the French "housing estates" have been Muslims, mostly from France's former colonies in North Africa. And it is true their faith is a contributing factor in their violence.

Radical imams use the poor conditions in collectivist housing to whip up religious fervour among young Muslim residents.

Still, as Jonathan Laurence and Justin Vaisse point out in their new book, Integrating Islam, nearly one-fifth of French immigrants do not have jobs. In the banlieues, where Muslim immigrants predominate, the rate approaches 50%.

Muslims account for more than half of all inmates in French prisons. In prisons near the banlieues, that figure is between 70% and 80%.

In many French housing projects, two out of every three men have been arrested at least once in their lives. Nearly half have been in prison at least once in the past decade.

These figures mirror, and in many cases exceed, those among blacks in America's ghetto projects. Yet no one would blame the unrest in American inner cities on Islam. So it would be unfair to pin all of the unrest around Paris on Muslims' hostility to pluralistic, Western society.

Large-scale social housing projects were simply a terrible idea.

And to the extent that unemployment is a contributing factor to rioting and crime, then France's overregulated economy is partly to blame, too.

The French economy has been sluggish for more than a decade, while less-regulated economies such as Canada's, America's, Britain's, Australia's and Spain's have grown far more. Even French-born young people suffer unemployment of 15% or greater because French taxes and red tape discourage business expansion and job creation.

The riots last October in the Parisian suburbs, and the violence before and since, are caused by economics as much as they are faith-based.

Still, radical Islamism plays a distinct role. It is the spin on the ball, if you will.

Last October, French police counted 9,193 car burnings and 2,921 arrests in 21 nights of clashes with Muslim rioters. That unrest was widely reported.

Almost entirely unreported, though, has been the violence since October, 2005.

In the past 12 months, for instance, 2,500 French policemen have been injured during run-ins with Muslim criminals or protesters in Paris's projects.

The French government's explanation has been that police have been very successful at breaking up black market rings in the housing estates, so the criminals who once profited are striking back in anger for their lost income.

Maybe. But most of the time, when police conduct a successful crackdown on an illegal activity, there are fewer attacks on police in the immediate aftermath, not more.

France's police union has complained this official version is naive, or even dishonest. They insist officers have uncovered several incidents in which mosques, Muslim schools and community centres in the banlieues have been used to incite unemployed youths into jihad against police.

In recent months, an average of 20 officers have been injured each day in what police themselves are calling an intifada. In early October, Michel Thoomis, the secretary general of the Action Police trade union, said police and rioters were "in a state of civil war, orchestrated by radical Islamists."

Daily, police are stoned by groups of angry, balaclava-wearing Muslim youth standing behind barricades. "You no longer see two or three youths confronting police," explained Mr. Thoomis. "You see whole tower blocks emptying into the streets to set their 'comrades' free when they are arrested."

France is Europe's canary-down-the-mine on Muslim integration. At nearly 9%, Muslims are a greater portion of the French population than they are of the population of any other European state.

If France can't manage to incorporate Muslims into its societal mainstream, there is little chance any nation can.

 

[thomaska]

Dear Britain...

please lend Margaret Thatcher to the Fwench so they can get someone in there who will corral the hoodlums and stop the insanity...oh and heres a good pic too..in fine Fwench fashion..instead of condemning the two troublemakers who started the whole damn thing lets make a memorial to them...

Amazing...

 

[Chukcha]

I once visited Paris, in 1996, I happened to bamp into some arab on the street who began to talk french to me, and I couldn't understand a word off course, I don't speak any french, he sounded pretty aggressive when he was talking to me, his eyes didn't express much friendlinnes at all, anyway, I answered him in english that I don't understand him, to which he even more aggressively replied in english, "oooohh, you're not even french, then get the **** out of france, you have nothing to do here!" - please note, this phrase "YOU'RE NOT EVEN FRENCH", sounded like you have to be at least french to qualify to be in the country, otherwise you'd better be an arab to deserve good treatment. Well, that's how I saw it.