CBC Won't Release Photos of 30 Most Wanted War Criminals

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That the CBC refuses to show photos of war criminals shows they don't understand international law. You do not need to be convicted of anything to suspected under criminal law, although a conviction helps. International law does not necessarily consider you innocent until proven guilty like criminal law, no, not at all. This is because part of international law is defending a nation's security, and that trumps all other considerations. And that means international law is political, where criminal law is not.

We do not know citizens of other countries, we lack information on Egyptians, Romanians, and about 200 other nations in the world. We do the best we can with people we have inadequate information on. We must be more cautious.

Yet the CBC does show photos of criminals who are wanted, but not yet convicted. Foreigners are being given more consideration here and they should not be.

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By Brian Lilley ,Parliamentary Bureau First posted: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:00:00 EDT AM

The Harper government’s initial refusal to release the names and photos of suspected war criminals living in Canada was puzzling.
The ongoing decision of the CBC not to show the now-released names and photos is mind-boggling.

It was through stories, columns and editorials in newspapers like this one and broadcasts on Sun News Network that pressure built on
Public Safety Minister Vic Toews to change his mind and release the identity of the suspects Canada wants to deport.
Bureaucrats had told Toews he couldn’t do that due to privacy concerns.

Thankfully common sense, and concern for your safety, has trumped the privacy rights of people accused of committing crimes against humanity.

Since releasing the wanted list, five individuals have been arrested including one who was reported to police after a viewer of Sun News Network recognized one of the faces shown on the screen and called the Canada Border Services Agency.

Despite this, the CBC has refused to show the names, faces or even provide an online link to the page CBSA set up to help the public identify the 30 men being sought.

A CBC spokesman has said the state broadcaster will not release the names and faces because of their journalistic standards.
Evan Solomon from CBC’s Power and Politics show said there is not enough known about these individuals to release their identities.
Well how does CBC explain its past actions in releasing the identities of people wanted by police across Canada for abduction, sexual assault and other crimes?

We found plenty of examples on CBC’s own website of the state broadcaster posting pictures and names of people “wanted” but not yet charged in connection with various crimes.

Basically it comes down to politics.

Despite getting their $1.1-billion taxpayer subsidy from the Harper government and even an extra $60 million in the most recent budget, the CBC disagrees with the government’s positions on crime and immigration.

There have been attempts by commentators on-air to paint this as a matter of due process and claiming the government was not letting the system play out as it should. Hogwash.

The people on this list were each given a hearing by the Immigration and Refugee Board and deemed inadmissible to Canada.
Some, like Abraham Bahaty Bayavuge, the Congolese man arrested Wednesday, have exhausted all appeals.

Bayavuge even appealed to Federal Court and was rejected. He then appears to have gone underground, until this week. Now he will likely be deported quickly from Canada.

“Every single one of these individuals has had the benefit of due process in Canada’s extraordinarily fair legal system,” Immigration Minister Jason Kenney said.

“Extraordinarily fair” may be an understatement.

Canada’s immigration system, currently being reformed by Kenney, allows a seemingly endless parade of appeals, often paid for by taxpayers. No one is kicked out without being given a fair chance to tell their story.

The men on this list are not random people selected because of where they come from or due to a political vendetta. They are men who are accused of serious crimes, deemed inadmissible to Canada and ordered out.

CBC’s decision to treat them like they might be victims of a mean-spirited government says plenty about the state broadcaster’s priorities.
 

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Maybe for good reason with so many lunatics on the street today, it would just take one to blow away a look a like!
 

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Like you said the rules of international law, are not the laws we go by in the west. Innocent
until proven guilty. International law does not respect that. Therefore we should not be
showing pictures of people who might be accused but not necessarily even wanted.
The United Nations and the International courts leave a lot to be desired and if I were in
charge of CBC I would not publish them either.
Come to think of it why single out Romanians? Romania is part of Europe not the Middle
East, so what in Gods Name would we be targeting them for?
 

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Like you said the rules of international law, are not the laws we go by in the west. Innocent
until proven guilty. International law does not respect that. Therefore we should not be
showing pictures of people who might be accused but not necessarily even wanted.
The United Nations and the International courts leave a lot to be desired and if I were in
charge of CBC I would not publish them either.
Come to think of it why single out Romanians? Romania is part of Europe not the Middle
East, so what in Gods Name would we be targeting them for?


If the govt thinks they are a risk to Canada, and we follow a process, then we keep them here? There are millions of people in the world who are hard working and have committed no crime, no suspected of one. With criminal law you get the benefit of the doubt, under international law, often not.

Romanians were an example of a country, one of 200 in the world, where we have inadequate information on its citizens. Where we must rely on other govts, whose own information may be woefully inadequate, due to politcs or corruption for example.

Then why does the CBC publish photos of "alleged" criminals?
 

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Critics want these men prosecuted in Canada. But why should they get the benefit of our gold plated criminal justice system? It already is overburdened in BC as we have a shortage of sheriffs and criminal cases have been thrown out and hoodlums are back on the street. Foreigners, not Canadians should feel the brunt of budget cuts first. And the foreigners here are already illegally in the country.

Border agency deports another man 'implicated' in war crimes - Winnipeg Free Press

Says here BC right now has a shortage of sheriffs due to budget cuts.

Five Vancouver Court Closures Due to Sheriff Shortage - The Real Scoop
 

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Lately the idea of Canada being a kind of world's policeman I think is part of Amnesty International 's mentality and other groups in the country. We protect the world with soft power because our system of justice is better than other countries who don't have proper justice so we, not them, must try their war criminals. We want to be peacekeepers so we can stop others from fighting senseless wars. We must bring in immigrants so we can give them a better life, something they cannot get in their own country. It's an arrogant attitude.


Kenney dismisses Amnesty International over its defence of war criminals. I agree with him. There are many far greater injustices occurring in Africa and Asia that AI should be focussing their money, effort, and time on. AI is forgetting what a prisoner of conscience is and why they exist.
Kenney rips into Amnesty over war crimes deportation letter
 

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Being tried here will still mean some get off because we won't be able to get the evidence or the witnesses. We might be better off providing financial assistance to countries who wish to try their war criminals. But the overriding fact is, these war criminals are not our primary responsibility.

Refugees are a federal responsibility, but the criminal law is a provincial responsibility. Anmesty wants the problem downloaded to another jurisdiction which is one problem in our system. Those who make the rules don't have to pay for them. In BC, trials have been thrown out due to a lack of cash for various reasons. A shortage of sheriffs or they have been delayed too long. Trying foreigners instead of local hoodlums who commit crimes in my neighbourhood makes little sense to me right now.