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Because you're right. Shirtless pictures or the like would get a TON of press.. and Kris is just never going to do that.

At least, I have a feeling this video might be somewhat sexy. As for shirtless pics, it's a little ironic that Kris must spend a lot of time working out and getting a good body, and then is embarassed when people want to look at it. Is he doing it just for his health?

I get what you're saying about Justin, but I think it was an opportunity for Kris too just to have his name in front of people. The Producer once said in a fan interview that you'd be surprised how many people watch the show, or download the episodes. Which doesn't mean to say that anyone I know has even ever heard of it... because they haven't. But Justin's picture and status had him on tour for Kris. And it was a few random dates, but I still occasionally see tweets asking about Justin touring with Kris. So simply just having his name being on the screen is a good thing in my opinion.

I'm guessing you're talking about IICD. Whose name on the screen? Do you mean Kris being featured on IICD is a good thing? Sorry, I'm just slightly confused.

Adam's openers aren't really big stars either. (bigger than Kris's but not huge really)

No, not big stars. But neither is Adam. Orianthi's single did pretty well on Billboard though - within the past year. Adam, Orianthi, and Allsion have all released their first albums in the past year - all major label albums. And all three of them appeared on AI last season. I tend to think that a Kris Allen tour with Orianthi and Allison would have done almost as well as an Adam tour with them - though not quite. Maybe only if Kris had been as hyped on AI as Adam was last season - and by the media all last year. lol (Though, who would want to see Kris on such a tour? Not me. Overall, we're better off.)

I like the layout of Kris's tour, I like him opening for various people, etc. I just have noted that at times, at certain venues, with certain opening acts, it seems like kind of a second-rate effort. And other times, it seems first rate. A lot of people just accept that Kris is not a star, but I think if he were presented as a star, more, then more people would accept it. I think part of why people are buying into Adam right now is because he's being presented a certain way that makes him seem important. But I don't think he's all that important.

My feeling is that things may even out eventually, that it is better for Kris to be undersold than oversold, and maybe it's not good for Adam in the long run to be so oversold. Or maybe it will work. It's hard to say. I think overall I've noticed more disappointed reactions to him on this tour than there are to Kris on his. The "pleasantly surprised" reactions to the "wow, I had no idea he was this good!" reactions are better. So, low expectations, exceeded, are good - just as long as people get to see Kris. I just want to make sure he's getting seen, I guess.

ETA: I like Ben from the IICD house, but that girl...she really doesn't do anything for me (re the Orianthi video). Her looks actually kind of bug me. Facial expressions, maybe.

Just talking more...I'm actually glad Kris has a lot of variety on his tour(s). He could have just opened for someone all summer. Or been stuck in a kind of rigid tour format like Adam (it doesn't sound like Adam deviates from his setlist much - he probably can't, it's such a production). He gets to do all kinds of things, try out different songs, play acoustic, etc. It's a good format for him.
 
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I'm guessing you're talking about IICD. Whose name on the screen? Do you mean Kris being featured on IICD is a good thing? Sorry, I'm just slightly confused.

Yes, IICD. They have a status bar at the bottom that tells you where each of the people in the house are, and Justin's said on tour with Kris Allen for a really long time -- longer than the tour actually. lol

A lot of people just accept that Kris is not a star, but I think if he were presented as a star, more, then more people would accept it.

I agree with you. Perception is everything.

The "pleasantly surprised" reactions to the "wow, I had no idea he was this good!" reactions are better.

And I've always agreed with this. IMHO it's way better. People really don't know just how good he is yet, but they will. I have faith in that.

ETA: I can't imagine Kris being forced to stick with a set-list now. Idol tour must have nearly killed him.

This person has really nice video :0

YouTube - 10-07.21 - Kris Allen - Man In The Mirror [Cover] (3)
 

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Gosh, sorry for the long post! I used to do a lot of short posts. Now when I write anything it just gets added to my post! So annoying.

Did you see that I wrote this:

By the way, what did you think of Alex's comment? He doesn't want to go out on a few dates, like Justin, opening for Kris Allen. He wants his tour to be a lot better than that. I think he's an obnoxious little twit. I'm totally not into him and his ego.

(I cut it and pasted it down here.)

Come on, admit it! Alex is a douche, Alex is a douche...

(Nice video! Thanks.)

ETA: I can't imagine Kris being forced to stick with a set-list now. Idol tour must have nearly killed him.

I know, right? I don't think any of us understood Kris as well, back then. I don't look at his AI tour videos, now. Because I saw those performances so much I'm tired of them. When I saw him in Boston in September he was great, but he seemed not to have the total bliss in performing he has now. (Of course he wasn't feeling well, either. All in all he was still great.) But then I noticed when I saw him last winter -- really only less than three months after the Idols thing -- he was soooo much more relaxed and at ease. I can see that, more than anything, he needs to be in charge of what he's doing onstage. That's the only way there can be flow.
 

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Alex is a douche. Completely admit it. LOL

(but he kinda cracks me up when he isn't annoying the ever living crap outta me)

Alex has delusions of grandeur. Because touring with someone who's sold over a million singles (over 2 million if you count the Idol stuff) and actually managed to keep his **** together while on the biggest tv show in the US is a bad thing -- at the very least Justin made contacts in the recording industry. Justin's dates were haphazard and last minute, but that's the stuff you have to do. Alex is going to learn that.

I know, right? I don't think any of us understood Kris as well, back then.

Right? For all that Kris is an open and honest guy - to a fault. I still find him fascinating, because he's also a mystery in so many respects.

Also he's just a very cool human being. With great taste in music.
 

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I wasn't sure if he was taking a poke at Kris or Justin or both, but I'm sure it doesn't matter to him since he thinks he's bigger and better than both of them. But what a ... douche (I don't even use that word, but it suits him. lol) to put down your housemate.

Funny thing is that in show business sometimes you can do very well with delusions of grandeur. You make no friends, of course, but I don't think Alex is into that. He'd probably be happy with a sycophantic entourage with him at the center of everything. Strangely, he can be nice, humble, etc., at times.

Right? For all that Kris is an open and honest guy - to a fault. I still find him fascinating, because he's also a mystery in so many respects.

Some critic (talking about movie stars) said that all the great stars seem to have a secret they keep from the audience. I don't know what that means, but I understand it has to do with there being something about them that makes you want to figure them out, and you never will, quite, figure them out. Maybe Kris has a quality like that?
 

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Alex just says whatever's on his mind. He's talked about the Idol tour doing poorly too. Alex is mainly thinking about Alex IMHO.

I watched a skype chat with him last week I think and all the callers were young girls and one of the girls told him that he has to think before he speaks. (kinda cracked me up) I think he has a good heart, he's just a bit thoughtless and yes, douchey at the moment. Maybe he'll grow up a bit. I think stardom would be so bad for him right now.

Maybe Kris has a quality like that?

Yeah, I think he does. Very open guy, but private too.
 

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Also he's just a very cool human being. With great taste in music.

Agreed. And he's just himself. He seems incapable of being phony.

I really hope we're right about him, and he's not some secret egomaniac! Haha. But literally everyone says he's just the way he appears to be.

You want to know the thing that mystifies me the most about Kris? How does he deal with the frustrations, the attention, the inattention, the praise, the slights, the attacks, the good and bad breaks, his marriage, missing his wife, the annoying fans, etc., etc., and still seem so calm and together? Is he in a constant state of mild tension? Or does he really take it all in his stride? What about all the problems that come up on tour? Does he ever get mad? Does he ever act like a jerk?

Gee, you spend a lot of time Alex-watching. It's something that has escaped me, until now. I mean, I knew it, but it never really registered. So, are you an Alex fan? I can only stand him in very small doses.

I watched a skype chat with him last week I think and all the callers were young girls and one of the girls told him that he has to think before he speaks. (kinda cracked me up)

Not all that different from Jacob a few years ago. (Though JH is at least very self-deprecating, which maybe Alex isn't?) I always wondered if Jacob was just trying to get attention so as to stand out from the pack in some way, and I wonder the same thing about Alex. How calculated is he?

This is a recap of an Adam concert by a fan (I guess) on Top Idol. This sort of illustrates my point earlier. It's by no means conclusive proof of my point! But what I'm saying is, I wouldn't want Kris to be getting recaps like this. So, maybe Kris is doing okay just as he is.

Concert Recap:
1. The show is at 7:30pm according to my ticket, but when I arrived Orianthi was playing and was expecting it to be Allison. “I guess she’ll play after her.” After Orianthi finished, they displayed a photo of Adam on the screen while the stage was being set up. I looked on Twitter, and according to Lyndsey Parker – Allison played half an hour earlier. Allison started playing at 7pm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got screwed!

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3. Adam. I did not feel I was able to be blown away by him, because the sound/volume of the mic was not loud enough! If Adam did any power vocals, I did not feel it. The music, beats, glittery Adam, lasers, and all were there. Maybe people closer to the stage probably had a better experience. I also thought Adam sounded softer than I expected (not like what I hear from the show nor the Idol Tour), so I don’t know if it’s only just the mic volume being low or if also Adam is not singing with gusto? I’ll never know, unless I see him again and up closer.
4. Songs I wanted to hear was performed, “Music Again,” “Strut,” “Soaked,” “Whataya Want From Me,” “If I Had You,” “Sleepwalker,” and “Aftermath.” Songs he did NOT sing, but was looking forward to hearing him sing live: “Broken Open” and “For Your Entertainment.” My least favorite songs were also performed: “Fever” “Sure Fire Winners”…hm, dont know what else. I was not a fan the acoustic version of “Whataya Want From Me,” because the melody (by choice) was rushed through. I think the original pace and mood was perfect the way it was. Encore was just “Whole Lotta Love” which was the best performance vocally out of all songs combined at this show. I actually like his Idol Tour version better, but anyway.
Conclusion: Positives. I got to see Adam in person, and he sang most of the songs that I liked. I think Monte is sick. I loved what he did with Gnarls Barkley’s “Crazy” back at the Kradison concert when I saw the YouTube videos (made the song sexy). As for the concert itself, I was not blown away or wow-ed as I thought I would be, I blame it mostly on the sound/volume not being high enough first. I was also distracted by my seating situation and the people around me. Costume wise, kind of what I expected. His chest was shimmery when he wore that vest looking thing. And of course I felt cheated when I didn’t get to see Allison


Keith Urban apparently just asked the crowd to give a hand to "Kris Allen and his fine, fine band." You guys are possibly also following this on MJ's. I guess Kris was an answer on Jeopardy today, and they didn't know who he was. But also didn't know who David Cook was, or Jordin, or Kelly Clarkson. They answered the Fantasia question, though. lol.

I guess Lizzie is a Keith fan.

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'Idol' reject to sue for $300M

By WENN.COM
Last Updated: July 27, 2010 3:26pm


Ian Benardo
The American Idol reject who stormed the stage during the competition's live TV finale in May is preparing to file a $300 million lawsuit against show producers, accusing them of "exploiting" his sexuality.
Former contestant Ian Benardo, who failed to pass auditions when he tried out for the talent show in 2006, interrupted funnyman Dane Cook's comedy skit when he ran on stage and grabbed the microphone from the actor at the Los Angeles event.
Calling it "a Kanye West moment", Benardo began to hurl abuse at exiting American Idol judge Simon Cowell, insisting he was going to replace the music mogul on the program because, "I'm more entertaining than you."
But in new legal papers filed with the New York State Equal Employment Opportunity Commission on Monday, Benardo claims he was put up to the stunt by Idol executives who invited him back for this year's final and asked him to be "outrageous" and "gay".
The documents state that producers had previously "exploited... my sexual orientation" when he auditioned for the contest, by ordering him to "gay it up".
Benardo insists he was given similar orders when he returned in May.
He goes on to accuse Cook of threatening him after the incident, claiming Idol bosses warned him he was "not safe" and advised him to leave the Nokia Theatre immediately.
According to TMZ.com, Benardo is now set to take the battle to court and is seeking damages for emotional injuries suffered and loss of employment opportunities as a result of the incident.
Representatives for both American Idol and Cook have yet to respond to the legal action.

'Idol' reject to sue for $300M | TV | Entertainment | Toronto Sun
 

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Gee, you spend a lot of time Alex-watching. It's something that has escaped me, until now. I mean, I knew it, but it never really registered. So, are you an Alex fan? I can only stand him in very small doses.

Ha. I don't really. I mean I think he's talented - but I was bored last week and I follow the IICD house on twitter and it popped up that Alex was chatting with fans, so not having watched one of the Skype chats before I logged on and watched the end. The time previous to that I was looking to see if they'd posted anything about Justin and Kris. So I wouldn't say I really follow Alex. I haven't watched his new video yet for example, although I am aware that he has one.

I do like Alex's voice and I think he's talented, but he over sings sometimes and that drives me crazy. And if I watch him in the house he mainly drives me nuts.

I think comparing Alex to Jacob of a few years ago is pretty accurate. I think Jacob was probably nuttier and more overtly attention seeking. Plus I never had the chance to watch him in his home.. he probably would have annoyed me too. I can almost guarantee it in fact.

Um, 300 million??? That's ridiculous.

$10 dollar tickets for Mixfest!
Mixfest 2010 featuring Goo Goo Dolls, Kris Allen, Switchfoot and more Tickets - Bank of America Pavilion in Boston, MA Concert | Live Nation

I love Lizzie.. and Keith.

oh, and to your Adam review.. did you see the Orange County review?
Adam Lambert show a mixed bag at Pacific - Entertainment - The Orange County Register

They kind of said the same things.

More pictures from the video shoot (Just Jared loves them some Kris)

Kris Allen: 'The Truth' Video Preview! | kris allen the truth video preview 01 - Photo Gallery | Just Jared

Floral shirt? Eek! Kris stop the madness! (also we've got to get you out of the damn desert)

Hedley interview and performance from Seattle.

106.1 KISS FM - Today's Hottest Music

A backhanded yay-TT but Whatevs. I'll take it.

Kris Allen films video for new single, 'The Truth' - PopWrap
 
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Wow, Ellen is leaving! I didn't expect that. I can't say that I'm sad, because while I love Ellen, she just wasn't a good AI judge. But, yeah, if we get Jessica Simpson (or Courtney Love, WTF?) instead, it won't matter because I won't be watching. Anyway, we should know everything on Monday.
 

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I actually expected Ellen to leave.

I can't say I won't be watching just because they pick some judge or other. I hated Simon, wasn't crazy about Randy, and had my fill of Kara, but that didn't stop me from watching.

I'm against celebrity judges. The original show's only celeb was Paula, and - I don't know, I guess I never considered her a big celeb. I prefer to let the show create its own stars, like Simon and Randy, or Jake Gold and Zack Werner of CI. What happened to the old idea of having knowledgeable industry insiders, music producers, people like that, as judges? Why is it considered ideal, now, to have performers judging other performers? It's not. Mentoring, yes. Judging, no.

About getting Kris out of the desert...

Kris told us the location of LLWD was the desert, but if he didn't actually tell us, I don't think we could be sure. You don't see much of the location, and it's at night.

I think this one is going to be very different.

I don't know what Kris is doing in that flowered shirt-vest-dress pants combo. Why does he look bad whenever they dress him up? I think he looks better in a t shirt and jeans. At least he's wearing that in some of the video.
 

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Why did you expect Ellen to leave, ross? She had like a 5 year-contract and I don't think we really had any sign that she would actually leave.

Personally, there's a limit to what Idol can make me endure. If they hire Jessica Simpson, they'll just completely jump the shark for me. They could at least pretend that they're still doing this to find undiscovered talent, but if they hire somebody like Jessica or Courtney Love, that would just kind of prove that it's not the case at all. I'm just not okay with that at all and wouldn't want to support something like that. I'll find better use of my time. We'll see.

ETA: Oh! Seems J. Lo. is the new Idol judge? Rumor? I'd be okay with her I guess.
 

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Why did you expect Ellen to leave, ross? She had like a 5 year-contract and I don't think we really had any sign that she would actually leave.

A couple of things. First, there has been a lot of talk the past couple of days about the whole judges' panel being thrown out, ever since Nigel Lythgoe returned. People have been saying this was his plan. So I chose to believe the talk, I guess.

Then, there's the fact that Ellen didn't work out. She didn't do what she was there to do last year, bring freshness to the show. She wasn't a disaster, but she was almost worse, she was boring. So I thought they wouldn't stick to the contract if it meant a bad show.

ETA: Oh! Seems J. Lo. is the new Idol judge? Rumor? I'd be okay with her I guess.

I don't like J Lo. Partly because I blame her and Ben Affleck for those combo names like Brangelina. I don't know why but I never cared for her. Plus, she can't sing.

Jennifer Lopez’s voice is all jacked up EarSucker

Thanks for the link to the 10 buck Mixfest tix, SleepinIn. I bought one. Even if I don't end up going, it's only 10 bucks lost. The seats aren't great, but it's not a huge venue and they do have big video screens. Now that I'm older I really only like to go to concerts and shows if I get good seats, but in this case I'll make an exception.

Do you have any idea what the performance order is? The show starts at 6:00 and I work until 5:00. But maybe I can get out an hour early.

I think that Idol finale number from season 2 is one of my favorite group numbers. They all sound good, for one thing - I mean, it's a good showcase for all of them. I really like Jacob's rhythm in that number. I like Shane a lot in that number too.

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I don't think we really had any sign that she would actually leave.

Well, there was the fact that when Simon chose to announce his departure right after she was hired - she was NOT happy. So maybe that was the start. But, you guys are right. I love Ellen, but she wasn't right for the job. It wasn't a good fit. I don't know what J-lo will be like, but I guess I'm willing to give her a shot and take a wait and see attitude. I sometimes like her, and sometimes she annoys me so I don't really know which one it will be in this circumstance. She's not Jessica so that's a point in her favour.

Partly because I blame her and Ben Affleck for those combo names like Brangelina.

LMAO!

Yeah, $10 ! whoot... even if you only stayed for Kris it's a deal.

Do you have any idea what the performance order is? The show starts at 6:00 and I work until 5:00. But maybe I can get out an hour early.

I'm pretty sure Steven Page is first. I think he tweeted that he was. I'll check into it.

I think that Idol finale number from season 2 is one of my favorite group numbers. They all sound good, for one thing - I mean, it's a good showcase for all of them. I really like Jacob's rhythm in that number. I like Shane a lot in that number too.

Yes - they all sounded good and live singing FTW.

ETA: Yep! Steven says he's on first at 6:00 pm.

@MassBNLfan solo - I think I'm on first, like at 6pm.
1:14 AM Jul 20th via Twitter for iPhone in reply to MassBNLfan

Kris's radio promo person from Jive loves ET Mills - lol
JenDalt (JenDalt) on Twitter

AND
this person worked on both LLWD and TT.
Ashley J Krick (ashleyjkrick) on Twitter

Kris and Cale are playing a Fox party tonight. No days off ever for them I guess.
 

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Wait - Fox actually knows who Kris is?

The concert is being advertised with Goo Goo Dolls and Kris going first in all the announcements, so I assumed he'd be performing second to last, before the Goo Goo Dolls. For some reason they keep calling the band "Johnny Rzeznick and the GooGoo Dolls" on the radio station. Is that like, "Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones"? Love that band.

I have almost no desire to go to this show! I'd much rather go to a Kris headlining gig. I don't care about any of the other acts. Plus it's such an effort to get myself into town on a work night. Oh, well!! (In the Boston area, btw, Boston is always referred to as "town." As in, "We're going into town to buy some shoes at Filene's." As opposed to New York, where they say, "the city.")
 
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Get yourself to town!! LOL I know what you mean though. Headlining show would be awesome.

There might be Kris Switchfoot love though. Kris loves him some Switchfoot, and they were very nice when interviewed about him.

I didn't know Johnny Reznick was a big name either. Who knew? I mean I knew his name but he's local-ish.
 

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What exactly would Kris Switchfoot love involve? Be specific. If it's not too graphic.

Johnny Rzeznick is kind of big, I guess. He's sort of the thinking girl's Jon Bon Jovi.

Now I'm reading on MJ's blog that Ellen's contract was 2 years, not 5.

And...I'm curious. What do you guys think happened with Marco Puig's concept for the video? Jim Cantiello said they decided not to go with it. Kris said it was kind of creepy. This current video doesn't look creepy, so I guess it's a different scenario.
 

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:salute::eek:ccasion9::toothy4: Goodbye, Kara!!!

:santa: It's Christmas in July!!!

Oh, wait. There's still JLo, and maybe Steven Tyler. :-(
 

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I'll really be celebrating when the fire Randy. He's so useless. Now that they're making all these changes, they should just start anew.

What exactly would Kris Switchfoot love involve? Be specific. If it's not too graphic.

LOL. Well, Kris seems to be quite fond of Jon Foreman! (That's his name, right?)