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Well, Brian Mansfield in USA Today quoted Jon Bream's pan of Kris's show, and online, he linked to the review. I don't know why he did this. The other reviews were positive, and Kris is just starting his first tour. This could really hurt him at the box office. I'm confused about why Mansfield would post something that other people (like MJ) could easily spot as the work of a "butt-hurt" critic who can't get over Kris winning AI. Is Mansfield really that unsophisticated? Or is he just looking for blog hits? Very disappointed in him. I really can't forgive that he did that.
 

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Yay to the posts from MJ and Kristen from the quoted thread.

Well, Brian Mansfield in USA Today quoted Jon Bream's pan of Kris's show, and online, he linked to the review. I don't know why he did this.

It was a crappy thing to do, but I know why he did it. He said it himself in his own comment section. He respects the guy, and he probably felt he was getting creamed for his opinion. Which was totally onerous. I mean if you look at the photo of the crowd.. it ain't empty. It's not a sell-out out but it's not like there were 25 people in the audience, in fact it's quite full. If he posted that review.. then why not the other positive reviews though... Right? Mansfield's going to the Nashville show..

Interview with Kris from the other night. He sounds so sick, poor guy.

One on one with Kris Allen

Jive and 6 Flags are teaming up - interesting isn't it? Synergy...

Six Flags: Music
 

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It was a crappy thing to do, but I know why he did it. He said it himself in his own comment section. He respects the guy, and he probably felt he was getting creamed for his opinion. Which was totally onerous. I mean if you look at the photo of the crowd.. it ain't empty. It's not a sell-out out but it's not like there were 25 people in the audience, in fact it's quite full. If he posted that review.. then why not the other positive reviews though... Right?

SleepinIn, I'm sorry but what you wrote confused me a bit.

Why did he do it? Because he respects Bream? And Bream was being creamed? So how does reprinting the review help or change that? I guess I don't get that part. Are you saying he was showing support for Bream? I guess that comes under the heading of "two wrongs don't make a right," in my book.

I would have liked Mansfield to display some respect for Kris Allen. By not reprinting that garbage. Because Kris got creamed, too, didn't he? Was Mansfield suggesting we feel sorry for Jon Bream? Ha. He's a critic. If you dish it out you should be able to take it. He could hardly have thought people were going to throw roses at him when he headlined a review with, "Kris Allen Does Not Deserve 'Idol' Crown." The guy is nasty.

I love this song. You can tell Kris has a cold but he still sounds really nice.

YouTube - Kris Allen - Send Me All Your Angels - Green Bay, WI - 6-6-10

It says, down below, there, that you're online, but I don't know if you're still around. I came on here really late. I had to do some house painting and then I had to clean up afterwards.
 
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Does it mean you've made it when Eminen mentions you in his song? LOL. He mentions David Cook by name in his new song "On Fire". Of course, it's not positive, but it's making me laugh that Eminem mentions his name. The lyrics *snerk*:

This ain’t a song/It’s a warning for Brooke Hogan and David Cook/That the crook just took over, so book/Run as fast as you can/stop writing and killing/I’m lightning in a skillet, you’re a f*cking flash in the pan.

Just saw the video of Kris falling on stage last night. Oops! But still a bit funny. Thankfully, all he got was a scratch on the leg.
 

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Why did he do it? Because he respects Bream? And Bream was being creamed? So how does reprinting the review help or change that? I guess I don't get that part. Are you saying he was showing support for Bream? I guess that comes under the heading of "two wrongs don't make a right," in my book.

I would have liked Mansfield to display some respect for Kris Allen. By not reprinting that garbage. Because Kris got creamed, too, didn't he? Was Mansfield suggesting we feel sorry for Jon Bream? Ha. He's a critic. If you dish it out you should be able to take it. He could hardly have thought people were going to throw roses at him when he headlined a review with, "Kris Allen Does Not Deserve 'Idol' Crown." The guy is nasty

I don't disagree with you - I would have liked Brian to not post an inaccurate review, but yeah I think he did it because he respects Bream. Whether or not Bream deserves respect when he's got his review pre-planned out I don't know. But my guess is.. NO.

I also wonder if Brian posted it because Kris fans were so annoyed by it. There were over 150 comments on that article, and it was a thread that included Lee and Crystal and the National Enquirer thingy. The comments were almost completely about Kris and the review. The moral of the story is don't mess with the Truth - the actual truth or the song called the Truth (comments at Kris site after adding Pat) - because it will piss off the Kris fan. Write a bad review, whatever, but don't make **** up.

Does it mean you've made it when Eminen mentions you in his song? LOL. He mentions David Cook by name in his new song "On Fire". Of course, it's not positive, but it's making me laugh that Eminem mentions his name. The lyrics *snerk*:

Ha! That's awesome. Sorry.. I enjoy me some Eminem even when he's dissing people I like. I think being in an Eminem song would be cool :)

Nice recap!! This part

it's not fair how, like, smooth and glowing his skin is.

reminds me of what you said after Boston Ross. Didn't you say the same thing about his skin?

He's pretty hardcore, man. Yes, Kris Allen. Hardcore. I said it.

Yes, yes he is.

So it looks like the MMVAs will be simulcast in the US this year. On Fuse, whatever that is. I don't think I get Fuse.

That's really cool! Go Canadian music.. which they won't show now..awesome. lol But you don't get the channel? You could have seen Hedley on like an actual tv. LOL I wonder if they'll show the red carpet stuff. Half the time that the fun part since they tend to arrive on crazy things like tanks, and ambulances.

ETA: OMG it's a novel.

Send Me All Your Angels should have been on the album!! It's so good.

and Kris falling.. Owie. But he handled it like a pro, even though you could tell he was embarrassed.

How fun is this?

YouTube - Kris Allen feat. Green River Ordinance - Come Together - Green Bay, WI 6/6/10

These guys are just so good.

YouTube - Kris Allen - Live Like We're Dying - Green Bay, WI - 6-6-10

This is really cute - Hedley in Africa singing Friends.

YouTube - Hedley in Kenya
 

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Just saw the video of Kris falling on stage last night. Oops! But still a bit funny. Thankfully, all he got was a scratch on the leg.

That reminds me, I just read, in a post on Top Idol:

Glamberts are so funny. Out of curiosity, I checked in on the “Kris Falls” thread over at Idol Chatter to see whether yesterday’s Bream controversy would carry over to today, and one of the first comments there was “Big deal. Adam fell on national TV. This isn’t news.”

LOL!!!

I don't disagree with you - I would have liked Brian to not post an inaccurate review, but yeah I think he did it because he respects Bream. Whether or not Bream deserves respect when he's got his review pre-planned out I don't know. But my guess is.. NO.

I also wonder if Brian posted it because Kris fans were so annoyed by it. There were over 150 comments on that article, and it was a thread that included Lee and Crystal and the National Enquirer thingy. The comments were almost completely about Kris and the review. The moral of the story is don't mess with the Truth - the actual truth or the song called the Truth (comments at Kris site after adding Pat) - because it will piss off the Kris fan. Write a bad review, whatever, but don't make **** up.


First, I have to say while I still remember...I heard The Truth on the radio today!!! On Kiss108. (The pop station). At @ 2:30 this afternoon. It was fantastic until the Pat Monahan part. That's so jarring, as he has such a different voice -- yet people will probably assume it's Kris, suddenly sounding worse in the middle of the song. That just does not work. (The DJ announced it beforehand as sung by "your American Idol until recently, Kris Allen". No mention of Pat.)

Now where was I? Oh, yeah. I know what I wanted to say. Rather than paraphrase, I'll just bring another post over from Top Idol...

So Jon Bream has posted a new article comparing Kris and Adam’s careers and gave Adam a B and Kris a C.

Some of the Adamtard Glamberts claim this is a perfectly justified rating of course, not seeming to realize this is the same guy who gave the ridiculous Kris review the other night and actually called into a Minneapolis radio show to degrade Kris.

Do you believe this guy? He's on a vendetta of some kind. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but why does all this crap always seem to come out whenever Kris seems to be gaining new ground in his career? Ever notice that? It's like he has enemies determined to undermine him. It's getting so it's not so coincidental any more.
(And it's not from just anyone, it's always from people who prefer Adam.)

"it's not fair how, like, smooth and glowing his skin is." reminds me of what you said after Boston Ross. Didn't you say the same thing about his skin?

He has amazing skin. You have to see it to believe it.

These guys are just so good.

Yeah, they are! And I noticed they started singing backup a little louder when it looked like Kris was going to lose his voice.
 
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Some of the Adamtard Glamberts claim this is a perfectly justified rating of course, not seeming to realize this is the same guy who gave the ridiculous Kris review the other night and actually called into a Minneapolis radio show to degrade Kris.

He's a twit. Full stop, he's got an obvious bias and is never going to change his mind. I think the review was unfair, but then so is life. I guess I'm done caring what Jim Bream thinks about anything. Considering I had no idea who this man was last week.. I'm good with that. :)

I'm watching a Chris Pronger interview at the moment and he just said I don't read what you guys write good or bad. Sounds like good advice regarding reviewers.

I heard The Truth on the radio today!!! On Kiss108.

WHOOT!!!! That's Awesome!
 

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So, AWM will be featured on SYTYCD tonight, yay!

Tell me again, why didn't they release that song as the single?

I still don't get it.
 

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Tell me again, why didn't they release that song as the single?

Um, yeah, I don't really get it either. They have some sort of plan????

LOL - over Kalan's video. That's pretty funny, and yeah it does remind me of Kris. I'm actually really intersted in what Kalan does next.

So, AWM will be featured on SYTYCD tonight, yay!

Oh, and this? Is totally awesome. I hope the dancers don't suck... lol
 

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Just read that Kris is supposed to film the video for TT... in July.

In July???

So, this single will really last forever, won't it? The longer it lasts, the least chance I see for a third single, since Kris is already talking about going back in the studio.

Ugh.

Oh and he's not planning to play From the Ashes live. Sad.
 

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In July???

July is a long time. Okay a month, but that's a long time. Hopefully the spins pick up by then.

So, this single will really last forever, won't it? The longer it lasts, the least chance I see for a third single, since Kris is already talking about going back in the studio.

I still see them releasing a 3rd. Especially since his album is still in the 300,000 copies sold range. I think regardless of how TT does they'll release something else. Hopefully it's AWM, but god knows it could be WAOMF (which I love but.. but.. *facepalm*)

Oh and he's not planning to play From the Ashes live. Sad.

Agreed! Sad.

Maybe we should keep asking about it if he has interview questions.. lol. He might take a hint.