Canadian Idol Fans Watching American Idol

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Page 501! (Hm. Looks like Ally got to make post #10,000. Congrats. It really is a 'mad world,' isn't it?)

And this is the explanation for TT and Idol bumpage, via Brian Mansfield.

"Wednesday, when I posted track-download stats, some of you asked how Kris Allen's The Truth didn't make the list after his performance of the song on the American Idol finale. Here's the answer: There are two versions of the song available for download -- the original album version and the single version that features Train's Pat Monahan. Those two versions combined to sell 7,000 copies last week, up significantly from the 2,000 they sold the week before. Together, they've sold about 35,000 downloads total."

It looks as if Kris's two versions will chart separately? That seems unfortunate. How will Billboard figure out the numbers?

YouTube - "Can't Stay Away" ~ Kris Allen (Grand Rapids, 6/2/2010)

YouTube - Kris Allen - Is It Over - Grand Rapids, MI (June 2, 2010)

I meant to say this the other day but I was probably, like, exhausted, or something...but I was wondering about the two versions and how that affected sales numbers.

Brian Mansfield (it seems to me) is always reporting stuff he later has to revise or retract. But anyway, a lot of music stats seem iffy at best, and I'm not much of a numbers man, anyhow. Most of the time it's probably better not to get drawn into the "concern" at MJ's, and in fact I didn't look at that blog at all today and I feel pretty good. I may just go cold turkey.

 

[SleepinIn]

Your dedication to this one though is nothing short of outstanding!!!!

Um, can you say one track minds? We are guilty.

I liked Casey's Jealous Guy too, I haven't bought it though. Sitll might. Now Mad World I've got. (*ahem* first and second version)

This one was good too.
YouTube - Mad World Ford Day

also this

YouTube - Falling Slowly Ford Day

Ford brought us more than commercials.

I kinda wondered if The Truth would be affected by that - that makes sense since it's not like the WWFM remix where the songs counted together.

Can't Stay Away is so good without guitar. And seriously? IIO live is just so good. I don't even listen to the album version - but the live version gets me every time.

Music stats like any statistics can be used in so many different ways. I don't worry about them too much either. I like to see the sales numbers -- but really it's just to see a general snapshot of how things are going. They really don't tell the whole story for anyone in the music business.

Interview with Kris from WIXX

http://new.wixx.com/blogs/average-joe-blog/

Kris was babbling. LOL

 

[missaddicted]

A Cook and Kris fan I follow on twitter is going to the show tonight, maybe she'll give some updates!

 

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A Cook and Kris fan I follow on twitter is going to the show tonight, maybe she'll give some updates!

Sounds good.

I'm watching the Lee Idolatry interview.

Sorry to say, he sounds really awful in the clips from the show. I don't know if I can watch this.

 

[SleepinIn]

I'm watching Adam's concert (lotta screaming happening) and following Kris's on MJ/twitter

 

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Slezak tweeted there will be no Casey James Idolatry. (Why?) (ETA: Scheduling.)

I don't get why Kris wears his plaid flannel shirts and other long sleeve shirts in June when it's in the 70's and 80's out.

I watched that Adam stream for about two minutes. Annoying screaming and bad sound.

Katy Allen (PurpleRibbon10) on Twitter

I'm kind of surprised Kris wouldn't want to keep his personalized LA Dodgers shirt.

ETA: Following Kris's concert on twitter is really a trial for me. I can't stand the girly tweets. "I want the whole band in breeches." Jesus. Have a shower and settle down.

"The audience went nuts when he said adam by the way!!!!"

Hm. Why do I get the strong feeling Adam is not likely to mention Kris in his concert?
(And if he did there would probably be boos.)

YouTube - Hedley Backstage Warm-up Sandwich and Bottle Jam

YouTube - A message from Hedley

YouTube - Hedley - Jake talks at the piano - Quebec city

YouTube - Jacob Hoggard - Gypsy Song

 

[SleepinIn]

I'm kind of surprised Kris wouldn't want to keep his personalized LA Dodgers shirt.

I'm surprised too but I shouldn't be. Kris and Katy are so not into stuff, are they? Kris is still wearing that birthday plaid for instance... if he'd auctioned that sucker off, he could have made a fortune. LOL

Hedley's Shelter with bottles and keys!!! How cool! I love it. They'll be at the MMVA's too. Should be fun. 2010 MuchMusic Video Awards

BTW I love Gyspsy song. It's awesome.

 

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I'm surprised too but I shouldn't be. Kris and Katy are so not into stuff, are they? Kris is still wearing that birthday plaid for instance... if he'd auctioned that sucker off, he could have made a fortune. LOL

I guess they're not (into stuff). But, come on, the shirt the LA Dodgers gave him with his name on it, and he doesn't even want to keep it for his kids to look at, or something? I don't know. Strange.

SleepinIn, I have a feeling everything I linked to you've already seen! Sometimes I wonder how you manage to see/listen to so much music on YouTube and elsewhere. It's incredible.

The Lee interview was pretty boring. I guess I'm just not that interested. I think I'd like him more if he sang on key more. His type of voice is not really my kinda thing but if he sings interesting stuff and is a good live performer I could be interested in him, but two things, the really off key notes and the way he sounds awful when he goes high and gets whiney, just ain't gonna work for me. I bet (I hope, anyhow) they get him a voice coach. Of course, they have vocal coaches on Idol, but they don't seem to have helped him out.

 

[missaddicted]

Well, in all the performances Lee's done since Idol, he's been on key all the time. I watched several, the Access Hollywood one, Regis & Kelly, Today Show, Walmart meeting, and he's sounded really good for all these performances. Way better than on Idol.

I liked Slezak's interview with Lee, except for the fact that Lee was super defensive about a lot of stuff.

 

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Well, in all the performances Lee's done since Idol, he's been on key all the time. I watched several, the Access Hollywood one, Regis & Kelly, Today Show, Walmart meeting, and he's sounded really good for all these performances. Way better than on Idol.

Yeah, that's true. Don't you find that a little strange, though? I wonder if it's because he doesn't have to sing with the band?

Apparently, Kris's show was packed tonight. No doubt the Glamberts will find a new way to voice their concern...

 

[missaddicted]

Yeah, I think Lee is way better when he does something more intimate and when he's not trying to over-power a band, a choir or both. That's when he goes over in "pitchy" territory. Anyway, it was strange that he said to Slezak that his pitch issues didn't bother him, because it should. He's got to work on that a bit. I think he has tons of potential, but he's got some things to work on. I don't know if he was trying to play it cool with Slezak, but it was weird. Yeah, the judges are worthless most of the times, but they did give him some bits of advice here and there and he shouldn't say that it doesn't matter at all to him. Dude still has room for improvement. Anyway, I think he could be great, but he's not there yet. I like what I've heard from him since after Idol though.

 

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Also, here's a funny thing. SleepinIn, you were talking about the "Hedley model," in regards to Kris. Well, you didn't call it that, but I'm calling it that. (About how Kris is a new artist and can build a fanbase in a way similar to Hedley's way.) I was thinking today about all of Hedley's meet-and-greets, in the past. I thought, "Damn, Kris needs to do meet and greets if he really wants to follow the Hedley model." And tonight it seems he did one (maybe last night too).

missaddicted, I think you're right. I'd write more but I'm getting sleepy and I guess it can wait until tomorrow. I'll see you guys later.

YouTube - WXMI FOX-17 Emily Richett interview with Kris Allen

 

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This is my favorite Ford commercial. Heh.

YouTube - Kris Allen Ford Commercial Jan. 12, 2010

Oh, yeah, I meant to ask...are the girls who keep tweeting details of Kris's shows actually going to every show? I decided to follow a few of them, but I haven't really figured that out, I guess.

You guys, look at this pic blown up to 400% Take a look at Kris's fingers. He has really long, really skinny fingers. Shaking hands with him was like shaking hands with a thin girl.

100_3125 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

(There are other pics, too.)

 

[SleepinIn]

SleepinIn, I have a feeling everything I linked to you've already seen! Sometimes I wonder how you manage to see/listen to so much music on YouTube and elsewhere. It's incredible.

Ha! No I hadn't seen that Hedly video before! It was new to me and I hadn't seen the Gypsy song video either. (and I haven't watched the others yet) Jake played the Gypsy song in their rehearsal vids - and I did watch them. So that's how I know that song. I also ripped it.. so I've been listening to it for awhile. And I haven't watched Lee on Idolatry yet. So there! I am a bit addicted to google and I'm kind of good at finding things, so it's actually less time consuming than it seems.

I think Lee's issue during Idol was nerves. It's a lot different to sing live than it would be to sing sing on tv. He just always seemed on the verge of throwing up. I think he'll be fine once he's got his performance legs so to speak. The tour and all the press he'll have to do will be his test of fire.

The Hedley Model (lol) Yes, I agree it's a good strategy.

I really don't know how fans can keep up the pace for all those concerts, not to mention the $$$$. Kinda a mystery. But hey more power to them.

ETA: Okay, after watching most of Lee's Idolatry. Lee and I are good. I like him a lot. (Kiss From a Rose was still pitchy though - LOL) I do get what he's saying about the judges though. When they state something there is a certain segment of the audience that takes it as fact. I'll be interested in what he comes up with. Could be good.

 

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I think Lee's issue during Idol was nerves. It's a lot different to sing live than it would be to sing sing on tv. He just always seemed on the verge of throwing up. I think he'll be fine once he's got his performance legs so to speak. The tour and all the press he'll have to do will be his test of fire.

Yeah, that's what I thought too, but I found it weird that he kept repeating to Slezak that he was always confident, blah, blah, blah. He just never projected that at all. Makes me wonder if he's lying to himself. He did often looked like a guy who was worrying a lot and was about to be sick and he pretty much denied it when talking to Michael.

I think we had contrary reactions to his Idolatry interview, it actually made me like him less. I mean, I still like his singing and his post-Idol performances, but he kind of bugged me in that particular interview.

I wouldn't be surprised if some fans are following Kris on tour, especially if the places where he performs are close to one another.

 

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People on other blogs thought Lee came across as an ass on Idolatry. Mainly because he refused to acknowledge the pitch issue and blamed it on the judges. And for the reasons missaddicted said. But I respect your judgement. Both of you. Myself, I couldn't sit through the interview after a while. Lee is not exactly boring but he doesn't have much attraction for me. I don't know why, I just don't care.

Have you seen Slezak's twitter background? I suggest you take a peek.

Someone on MJ's blog named sourcandy (heard of her?) posted a recap, of sorts, on the Top Idol blog, of Glamnation. It was the best concert she ever saw, it was flawless. The crowd was very diverse, age wise, sexuality wise (how that was determined, I don't know), etc. She then claimed no other contemporary artist could attract such a diverse crowd. She asked people to name three contemporary artists who could.

I had to respond to the last part, because I think a lot of artists (especially ex-Idols) attract such a crowd of (as she put it) little kids to septuagenarians. As a matter of fact, I saw such a crowd at the last Kris-BNL concert I went to. I also said I'm pretty sure Danny Gokey attracts such a crowd, or Kelly, or Carrie.

But the fact is (I didn't say this) I'm really happy Kris is not attracting that kind of crowd. Overall. I think he does attract some middle aged people (like me). Or older people -- and so does any artist. I think anyone (such as Jacob) who has been on Idol will attract all ages. But overall I find it great that Kris seems to be attracting a lot of teen and twenty-something women (and some guys). I really think this is the target audience the record labels want to get. If Kris did not attract this audience, I think I wouldn't want to take bets on his career. As it is, he's really lucky.

As for Adam, I think that the audience he attracts will work for him. He's a bit specialized. The audience sourcandy described is very much like the audience at an Idols concert, or even a Broadway show, a Pops concert, Riverdance, or whatever. All ages and types.

 

[missaddicted]

Another gift from Lizzie:

YouTube - "Paranoid Android" Kris Allen & Band LIVE

I love that cover BTW.

 

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Cinntillicious Wow this is awesome so many people so many men yup tons of men, it is packed.

A tweet from tonight's KAB show. It's raining men, apparently.

Thanks for the link.

 

[SleepinIn]

I think we had contrary reactions to his Idolatry interview, it actually made me like him less. I mean, I still like his singing and his post-Idol performances, but he kind of bugged me in that particular interview.

I think you liked him more to start with - so maybe we evened out. LOL

Have you seen Slezak's twitter background? I suggest you take a peek.

He's definately in the Bow-er-sox camp. Jason the editor of Idoltry sure was.

Someone on MJ's blog named sourcandy (heard of her?) posted a recap, of sorts, on the Top Idol blog, of Glamnation. It was the best concert she ever saw, it was flawless. The crowd was very diverse, age wise, sexuality wise (how that was determined, I don't know), etc. She then claimed no other contemporary artist could attract such a diverse crowd. She asked people to name three contemporary artists who could.

It's always the bestest thing ever isn't it? lol It's not enough to be good, it's got to be the most amazing thing they've ever witnessed. I watched that live stream, and yeah, Adam's voice is very good. This video gives a view of the crowd pre-show and it is very much all ages.

YouTube - Adam Lambert Voodoo/Down the Rabbit Hole/Ring of Fire Medley Wilkes-Barre 060410.m4v

And I agree it was very much a performance - which is also really good. It just didn't feel raw enough for me. Would still be a fun show to see though. It's just a matter of apples and oranges. Enjoy the apple for being an apple, enjoy the orange for being an orange.

I love Lizzie. I really do Paranoid Android was awesome - I've been waiting for a good video of that since Detroit. And it lived up to the hype. As a bonus we get Kris singing about the panic and the vomit.. full of win.

There's a cellcast tonight.

 

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There is a cellcast.

http://www.blogtv.com/people/WorkingManders

8sourcandy said:

For The Record:
The so called “press ban” as Adam explained, allowed him to iron out any kinks. He did not have much time to put this show together and this performance was sort of a final dress rehearsal. As critical as I can be with his performances (yes, I have been), I found this show flawless. The set list was well conceived, with each song transitioning beautifully into the next. The costumes and staging where also impressive considering there really wasn’t much of a budget. What most impressed me, probably because it is the thing I am most critical of, was the dancing. He must have rehearsed his ass off because there was not one misstep that I detected —he was smooth throughout.
I know Top Idol isn’t the place to come to get validation or support for Adam Lambert. I respect that the audience here is mostly made up of Adam detractors—directly or via fan-hate. I don’t expect to convert anyone either (although I do sometimes fantasize that I could.) However, I wish greater effort for fact-checking was employed. The only thing I annoys me more than awkward dancing are lazy detractors.

As someone who is a bit annal retentive about facts, I often find myself correcting miss information. (BTW: I never go back to see if there’s a reply because, in my opinion, facts are not open to debate)
As for this concert; I consider it the best concert I have ever been to. Partly because Adam was dynamic in his presentation, partly because the energy from the audience was so electrifying and partly because there was not one tard sign in sight. I know Adam fans are often depicted as fat, aging, lust-filled harpies, and I must admit there was a smattering of those in attendance. However, the audience was much more than that. I counted four wheelchair bound fans (three were men). I saw lesbian couples; teenagers (they wore the crazy outfits); hetero couples of all ages; sexy girls in their twenty-thirties; groups of young guys (seemingly straight) and old people—truly a diverse group. Seated next to me was a mother and her teenaged son. How many performers can appeal to that many generations? Name three current artists that can do that. Seriously.
In my not so humble opinion, this concert was spectacular. He was spectacular. Not just one or two stand out moments, but from the opening number of “Voodoo” to the encore of a revamped “Mad World.” Steve Garfield was correct in noting that Adam owned the stage, because he did. He delivered on every song including a very moving and heartfelt performance of “Soaked.” He has been criticized here for not connecting with his songs and I have to admit in previous concerts this song was performed a bit too campy for my taste. I always felt in doing so it robbed him of having that emotional connection and a stand out vocal moment. Apparently, he has come to the same conclusion because when he sang this it was so captivating you could hear a pin drop. He is becoming everything I imagined he could and would be. I hold him in great esteem and truly enjoy the hobby of following his career. (Even if that makes me a glamtard/sparkle cow/frauen.)
PS
Feel free to knock his tard gear all you want. Graphic design seems to be low on his list of priorities right now. Although, there were one or two tees that did appeal to me. Next to his dancing, I have been most critical of his graphic design choices. I am confident by his next tour this too will be ironed out.

Blue Eyes
Thanks for the review. Sounds like a fantastic concert. I probably would have liked it myself. I’ve made fun of Adam’s OTT fans, but there’s always a few nuts in every fanbase. Sounds like Adam does have a diverse fanbase and they are not ALL old horny housewives.

8sourcandy
I make fun of them too and sort of felt bad about that as I sat there. Some people seem to have so little to get excited about—these weren’t affluent fashionistas. Many were just plain folks who, for what ever reason, were compelled to attend. I was both humbled and honored to share that experience with with them.

I don't think sourcandy is anyone I actively hate on that other blog. I just don't get why so many Adam fans have to talk in superlatives, why what he does has to be unique and special and different from any other artist. I also don't get why their posts are so freaking long. Also, the language. People didn't just go to the concert. They were "compelled to attend." It wasn't just a great concert, it was an experience she felt "both humbled and honored to share" with others.

It wasn't Ghandi up there on stage.

(Also, if someone can tell me how you can tell lesbians from straight women, or straight people from gay people, without knowing them, I'd appreciate it. Unless they wear badges now.)