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Oh, don't worry, ross, I found the stuff elsewhere! Who needs MJ's? Ha! Well, I hadn't seen that recap of course, so thanks for bringing it here. I just can't believe MJ hasn't done anything with the problems with her website. It's not only my computer (it was actually the first time it did that to me), it happened to A LOT of people.

I'm sure we're already all voting for the VH1 countdown! Every little bit helps!
 
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So many great videos from Vegas. (Thanks Ross) Maybe Kris can go to Vegas every week. Everyone's a tourist and they all have cameras. ;)

Where did you find the Ryland info? and someone actually asked a relevant question.. yay team.. we're learning! That is good news. I hope they do collaborate there is a lot of musical talent in that band. Pretty impressive.

and yes. VH1 voting is a good idea.
 
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Where did you find the Ryland info?
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On mjs' blog. It's in the thread about the Vegas show.
and yes. VH1 voting is a good idea.
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It didn't take me all that long to vote 100 times, it's just tedious. Of course I didn't have to do it all at once. :)

Instead of one night, I suppose I could try doing that every night. I hate to do it, but after all the joy we'd get from seeing the video climb would be worth it.
 
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It didn't take me all that long to vote 100 times, it's just tedious. Of course I didn't have to do it all at once.
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Did you vote for the full 20 or just Kris at #1? I've been voting just for Kris, but I'm not sure if that's the best way to go. Then I tried the Kris in #1, Kris in #2, Kris in #3 all the way to 20 in case they weighted votes and he needed an odd number.. um, maybe I'm thinking about this too much.. oh dear.

KC radio tweeted the full interviews Andrew did today, he had a really long involved interview with Michael that was really interesting.
KCRadio.com (kcradiocom) on Twitter (parts 1 & 2)
- AUDIO: Andrew Cook Final Show Part 1 - Audio On-Demand
http://kcradio.posterous.com/-audio-andrew-cook-final-show-part-2

Oh, and Adam's posse (Lukas, Kendra, Ely, Jarvis, Alisan, Ferras) are playing a show tonight and there is speculation that Adam will be there and maybe sing. Looks like it's the hot ticket in LA tonight.
 
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I usually only vote for Kris at #1. I checked today if there was somebody else I wanted to add in a lower position, but not really. When I go, I usually vote 15-20 times in a row and try to do it a few days a week. It takes like one minute.

Thanks for the KC Radio links! I don't think I'll want to listen to Michael, but I certainly want to listen to Terry the Light Tech (missed most of it)! Nice that you think that the Sarver interview was interesting, people I follow on twitter hated it!
 
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Kris starts at 7:29 of part 2. And Part 1 was Ryan Star and Michael and Kris was part 2 -- Terry didn't appear in part 2 -- don't know if there is a part 3. I can see why they might have hated the interview it was looooooooong and if they're not interested in Michael it would drag but I found it interesting, just to learn a bit more about what's going on with him since I haven't really been paying attention to him since Idol.
 
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Who's Terry? Is this some alter ego for David? You guys talk in riddles, sometimes. :)

Um, yeah, I just vote for Kris at #1. I definitely think you're over-thinking it, SleepinIn. I like Ingrid Michaelson's song, and I liked her in person, though she's a real gabber. But I'm not giving it any votes. I just vote for Kris.

I was on mj's blog and there was some talk about why Adam doesn't do radio station performances, and how RCA seems to sort of keep him away from the less-than-stellar venues and so forth. I said perhaps they don't want him all over the radio because he tends to say a lot of controversial stuff. It's just a guess and may be wrong, but boy, did people come down on me. "Adam is one of the most brillant interviewers [sic] in show business." Etc.

I never said he wasn't competent at interviews, or whatever. I was talking about something else.

I know brilliance is in the eye of the beholder, but, really, what brilliance? Where are all the sparkling, quotable observations, the endlessly repeated witticisms and stories? I never get it when people say this. Never. He's not an interesting conversationalist at all. YMMV.

Oh, and Adam's posse (Lukas, Kendra, Ely, Jarvis, Alisan, Ferras) are playing a show tonight and there is speculation that Adam will be there and maybe sing. Looks like it's the hot ticket in LA tonight.
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I heard about that. I guess this relates a bit to what people were talking about at mj's. To me it's weird how Adam seems to hardly ever leave LA. It's kind of like preaching to the choir. I suppose when he tours, he will spread himself around more.
 
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I definitely think you're over-thinking it, SleepinIn
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LOL - yeah, me too.

I find it odd that Adam isn't doing more radio promo too. I think if he had been the stations would be doing a whole lot more spinning of the tunes. They must have a strategy, right? A weird one, but they must have one. He's done a ton of media, just not radio. But, maybe Oprah cancels out all radio gigs and if he had been doing a lot of radio he wouldn't seem quite as "fresh and new" to Oprah. He's done like 3x the media that Kris or Allsion have done on tv.

Adam seems to hardly ever leave LA. It's kind of like preaching to the choir. I suppose when he tours, he will spread himself around more.
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Adam has a lot of connections in LA and so do his friends, when you start connecting them to people it's really quite impressive. 6 degrees of separation and all that. Anyway, I like a lot of them and wish them all well. Jarvis Church especially, lol. I've been a big fan of his for years and years.

He played New Years in Toronto and I was switching back and forth from there and Billboard on New Years Eve.

YouTube - New Years Eve Bash 2010 - NPS - Jarvis Church

Ha when I was searching for that I got this - awesome!

YouTube - TORONTO HAPPY NEW YEAR 2010

Faber Driver were there too (didn't see them, Kris must have been singing then)

YouTube - G-Get Up And Dance - Faber Drive LIVE New Years Toronto 2010
 
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I just lost my whole post! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Thanks for the videos. Dave Faber is crazy. In a t shirt. What was the temperature in Totonto (if that was Toronto) on NYE? So that's Terry, Cook's other self? That was funny. I didn't totally get the second video (in the subway). Who were those people??I haven't watched the other guy (Adam's friend) yet.

Maybe my theory about Adam and radio is all wet. I wonder though if the TV stuff you mentioned, like ET-type shows, and Oprah, aren't safer outlets than radio. Seems like a lot of Adam's loose cannon things have happened on radio. The talk back to Clay Aiken, calling his fans smelly, his post-AMAs statements, etc. Maybe his peeps have concluded radio is not his best way to present himself, since he's totally unfiltered. Plus, radio jocks don't really worship celebs, even try to provoke them. The ET stuff is very light and flattering. And the Oprah thing is all about Adam worship. The Oprah website advertised for his fans to be in the audience. That's not exactly a tough crowd. lol

But yeah, that's was a good point, SleepinIn. Ditto about Adam's showbiz connections/friends. I think building grass roots support may work better for Kris, and showbiz support may work better for Adam, but he's on a more slippery slope, there. Those sharks have been known to eat their young. Still it's often about who you know.

As for why Adam doesn't get around as much as Kris, or do as many gigs, it's been discussed a lot, and it baffles even his fans. But Kris is still the Idol. He does represent the brand. Adam gets press because he's Adam, and his label gets him some big gigs, but I think 19 has a stake in promoting Kris as their winner, because to a lot of the public, the American Idol is supposed to be the best. And yeah, Jive and RCA seem to have different strategies. I tend to question RCA's more just because they haven't been as consistent.

One thing that got my "grrr" motor going again, though, was Randy's comments re Adam and Kris recently. I don't think he meant much, but one reason I'm not looking forward much to the new season is I'm afraid we're going back to that land of make believe. I don't totally want to go back there. I still don't know how Kris the Humble braved the lair of Simon the Evil Dragon and his wench Paula, to navigate through the dark forest of the Rock God and the dry desert of the Church Boy, to claim the Golden Microphone. Thank goodness the force was with him. :)
 
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You say tomayto and I say tomahto, You say Toronto and I say Totonto, let's call the whole thing off. :)
 
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You say tomayto and I say tomahto, You say Toronto and I say Totonto,
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LOL!

Temperature in Toronto at New Year's Eve was hovering around zero (C) so pretty mild for a New Years concert. It was raining for the most part. The subway I just found hilarious. It was people heading to Nathan Phillips Square for New Year's Eve (where Faber and Jarvis were) and the singer was a Hare Krishna I think.

Don't you find it interesting though that the whole Idol campaign this year is about finding undiscovered talent? And not professional talents.. for example finding Kris in Arkansas and not Adam in LA. I think they realize that they threw Kris out there without a lot of background support. Maybe the judges don't but the behind the scenes people seem to.

Re Adam and radio, maybe it's just an RCA strategy, but David did a lot of radio publicity didn't he? It seems odd though that he's not doing it and seems to be focusing more on the tv stuff. I mean tv stuff is fantastic, but radio is your bread and butter.

What I find even more interesting regarding Idol is that fact that now there are so many people from Idol, they are building their own networks of people. And you can actually see it happening on twitter. I find it all fascinating. Like Andrew cook and his radio show, the show last night, the shows that Matt has done, or even the tour that Michael did with Alexis at Christmas. Oliver writing with Lukas. Earl singing with Oliver and Sebastian.

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but David did a lot of radio publicity didn't he?
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He did. A lot. And all throughout his tour as well.

I think the strategy is just different with Adam, but I think they had to change strategies a few times. I'm not sure why Adam is not doing smaller shows and radio interviews, though.
 
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Some of the things I say have to do with talking to people (not big Idol tards), who say things that are so different from what you hear on the forums/blogs. More than once when I've said how great Kris is when I've seen him live, or how good his album is, people have responded, "Of course he's good. He's the American Idol." Or, "Of course everybody likes his song. Isn't he the American Idol winner?" Or, "Well, after all, he's the winner, he got the most votes." Etc. They actually don't go deeper into it than that. Forever more, he'll be one of the Idol winners. To most Americans that's a seal of approval. He won the biggest talent show in the country and the world. The online community isn't real life. When I say the organization has a stake in him, I mean as publicity for American Idol. Any Idol winner who can make it big is a feather in their cap. "We create stars." It may or may not work out, but I'm pretty sure they want him to be a star. I can't think of a single reason why not. It's just common sense. Maybe you guys don't agree with that, I notice you're not agreeing. Just curious.

As for Adam, I read so much online I don't pay much attention to common sense about that. Right now my common sense tells me that Adam's label has a problem on their hands. They don't know whether to celebrate his outspokenness or to muzzle it. They don't know whether his s&m shtick gains him fans or loses them. I can't go into all the details, but I don't think their original strategy worked out at all, his shtick fizzled and his FYE single and video tanked (it may be different where you are). To have completely misunderstood what the public wants isn't good, and that doesn't give me faith that they understand any better now.
 
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