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So, any theories why Kris is not playing with the band? Is there a pattern anyone notices about when the band plays with him and when they don't? Like, did they play at BB King's just because they were going to be in Vegas anyway? But now that they don't have to have a big network TV gig, they don't travel to Vegas? Is it too expensive to have the whole band? This is the first time Kris has done a paying gig without the band (isn't it?), so I'm curious. I kind of expected them to be with him on all his gigs from now on. (I hope this isn't indicative of his tour -- no band, I mean. Has me a little worried, actually.)

ETA: I don't get Fox Reality Channel. People on mj's are commenting on re-watching last season, which I find incredibly annoying for some reason! Not because I can't watch it (I could on YouTube -- that Asian channel). I have no desire to watch it. I don't know...to me it's just over.

Everyone keeps talking about how Ricky Braddy should have made it. See, I can't re-live all this again. He didn't make it. The end. (I started following him on twitter afterwards and once in a while he tweets -- it also appears like he got married. Anyhow, he doesn't seem to perform at all. It doesn't come across to me that his whole life is music. Not sure why, but he just doesn't seem to have much musical life. Or ambition. So for the record I'm glad he didn't make it.)

 

[SleepinIn]

I'm having a hard time hearing Kris's banter, though.

It's not the hearing for me it's the deciphering. Kris mumbles sometimes. I spend a lot of time replaying videos to figure out what he's saying. "Oh, he said do you see one"

Well, it's an acoustic show, so the acoustic "team" so to speak is Kris and Cale. I don't know if Cale is coming to BB's Friday - I'd think yes. They did the winery show, Seton and the radio show with just the two of them.

It might be an expense thing or Maybe Kris and Cale are more able to make a decision and pick up and go spur of the moment.

ETA: A Vegas radio station is giving away tickets to the show at BB's, they've been tweeting about it.

and yep love the :wave:

I only rewatched the Hollywood week to see how much Kris I could find -- not much at all.

Rickey wasn't bad, but I didn't find him all that interesting either, that may have changed if he'd been on the stage for 10 weeks or if I'd followed him on the Idol tour. As it stands, I'm not that sad he didn't make it any farther either. Although.. Jorge.. ? Just sayin' I may have traded Jorge for Rickey.

 

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It's not the hearing for me it's the deciphering. Kris mumbles sometimes. I spend a lot of time replaying videos to figure out what he's saying. "Oh, he said do you see one"

Yeah, he mumbles sometimes, but in that case I couldn't hear him over the crowd noise. It's just a YouTube video with bad sound, after all.

ETA: A Vegas radio station is giving away tickets to the show at BB's, they've been tweeting about it.

Cool. It's only 10 bucks anyway. Cover charge. First come, first served. So I guess it's an acoustic show because it's during dinner.

It doesn't sound like the greatest gig, but it's Las Vegas, and almost everyone in the audience will be a tourist. That is really significant. Because they all will return to their various home towns all over the country (or out of the country) and spread the word about who they saw in Vegas. Great word of mouth.

 

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As it stands, I'm not that sad he didn't make it any farther either. Although.. Jorge.. ? Just sayin' I may have traded Jorge for Rickey.

Well, Jorge made it on votes, didn't he? I forget. Wasn't it Kris, Adam, Allsion, Lil, Scott, Jorge, Danny, Alexis, and Michael? Matt, Anoop, Jasmine, and Megan, were voted off, then wild carded back in. Rickey was also voted off, was in the wild card rounds, and not chosen (ditto, Jesse Langseth, Von Smith, etc.)

Anyhow I was never one to play the game of "this one or that one should have made it." I somehow just accept whovever is left standing. Like people saying re CI, Tetiana should have made it or Mark Day shouldn't have, or Paul Clifford deserved it, or so-and-so didn't. I can't cry over spilt milk, I guess.

Like, if Kris had lost AI, I wouldn't (like some of these Adam fans, or Danny fans) be crying in my beer seven months later. What's the point? It won't change anything.

As for those reruns, It means I have to read this kind of thing on mj's blog (all over again):

Just watched the MJ replay – IMO Adam didn’t have his strongest vocals but more than made up for it over all the other contestants with his attitude and confidence. Allison came closest to matching that.

Not to mention:

Wow, watching the S8 performances again that night and Adam stands leagues above the rest, IMO. After hearing the crowd response also, it didn’t look like pimpage to me. Adam was just that good and the judges just gave their reaction to him.

And:

yeah rewatching this season on tv, it is even more evident that adam not at his best singing black or white is obviously IMO leagues above the rest

Just when they were starting to settle down, too. :help:

 

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So, any theories why Kris is not playing with the band?

Aw, don't be worried. I'm sure the band will join him when they go on tour. Maybe they had previous engagements. Like Chris for example, I remember that Cook fan who knows him said that he was performing with his old band, I think it's Thursday this week.

Like there was this big angst in the Cook fandom this week because his bandmates will perform together in the next couple of months under the name MWK (their band name from before Idol), while David is writing for his album. Some people were like "how dare they?". But I understand that these guys still want to create, to do something independently from David. After all, they will record with him and I'm pretty sure some will have co-writes with David on the album, but it'll still be David's name on the album. I'm sure they're super happy with the opportunity that David gave them, but I would understand if they don't only want to be "the band behind the American Idol".

So, yeah, I'm sure Kris's band will join him on tour, but they might be doing their own thing before the official tour starts. The way I understand it, the gig in Vegas this Friday wasn't planned in advance at all, so I wouldn't read into it too much if it's only Kris and Cale there.

 

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So, yeah, I'm sure Kris's band will join him on tour, but they might be doing their own thing before the official tour starts. The way I understand it, the gig in Vegas this Friday wasn't planned in advance at all, so I wouldn't read into it too much if it's only Kris and Cale there.

Okay, sounds good.

 

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Here's a poll on PollPidgeon that you guys actually might enjoy -- vote for your favorite Kris Allen pic:

Favorite Kris Allen pic? - POLLpigeon.com

 

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Great news again this week for LLWD!

Sales:
33 27 ALLEN*KRIS LIVE LIKE WE’RE DYING 86824 -20 109200 486240
25 32 UNDERWOOD*CARRIE COWBOY CASANOVA 82400 -34 124008 915174
41 43 CLARKSON*KELLY ALREADY GONE 62901 -28 86894 1068082
78 68 DAUGHTRY LIFE AFTER YOU 44470 -13 51212 200897
94 80 LAMBERT*ADAM WHATAYA WANT FROM ME 38422 -16 45843 135893

It will surely go gold next week! I have to admit it's totally exceeding my expectations. I expected it to get to gold, but not that fast (well, maybe not "fast" since it's been out for a few months, but certainly faster than I thought it would)! Now, if the album could sell as well...

 

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From Idol Chatter:

Album sales: We all fall down

As expected, nearly every release on Nielsen SoundScan's list of last week's top-selling albums took a tumble in weekly sales. (I think only five non-seasonal albums among the Top 200 saw actual week-to-week increases.) Overall, the SoundScan Top 200 was off 64 percent.

Carrie Underwood's Play On was the top-selling album from an Idol, though two collections (one Glee, one Now) with either Idol tracks or Idol-related songs ranked above it.

Carrie Underwood, Play On (34,000, -78 percent, 1.183 million)
Adam Lambert, For Your Entertainment (17,000, -72 percent, 434,000)
Daughtry, Leave This Town (12,000, -65 percent, 882,000)
Kris Allen, Kris Allen (9,000, -71 percent, 228,000)
Kelly Clarkson, All I Ever Wanted (5,000, -64, 815,000)
Allison Iraheta, Just Like You (4,000, -64 percent, 74,000)
Carrie Underwood, Carnival Ride (4,000, -74 percent, 3.045 million)
Carrie Underwood, Some Hearts (3,000, -73 percent, 6.197 million)
Kellie Pickler, Kellie Pickler (3,000, -62 percent, 372,000)

 

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I never thought I'd be thankful for Adam singing Whataya Want From Me, but I put on Mix104.1 today when I was driving and that song came on. I said, "Oh, geez, this again?" and changed the station to Kiss108, which was playing Live Like We're Dying!! (Sorry, Adam fans.) It was Seacrest who was playing it, actually. Only the second time I've heard it on the radio, and I blasted it.

Thanks for the stats. I'm glad Kris has a hit single. I'm happier than if he had a big hit album but couldn't connect with a single. It's somehow less Idol oriented. People don't pay much attention to sales stats, they pay attention to who has a popular song on the radio. It starts Kris's career off on the right foot, imho.

 

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A little mini controversy?

Top 10s by something I would probably never read, The Conservative Journal:

Top 10 Best Male Singers of 2009: Jason Derulo, Brad Paisley, and Justin Bieber « The Conservative Journal

Top 10 Worst Male Singers of 2009: Adam Lambert, Kanye West, and Chris Brown « The Conservative Journal

(David and Kris on the "best" list and Adam and Archie on the "worst" list, Adam at #1).

The poor blogger is attacked on the "worst" list by you-know-who and since the list wasn't decided by him, but by people who voted, it's not really warranted. Still, since it comes from The Conservative Journal, it's not really a surprise that Adam is #1 on that list, but I'm not sure those who voted juged only his music and his voice... which is a bit sad. Sad because Adam is somehow considered worse than the guy who beat up his girlfriend and the guy who showed once more that he was an enormous disrespectful tool.

ETA: The blogger seems to have a little fun though:

Hahaha, thanks Nikki! We knew as we were counting the results that we needed be ready for a hostile takeover by Adam’s super-fans (We’ve read things. Horrible, horrible things.), so we’re not quite ready to jump ship yet. It’s actually kind of funny. Michael (one of the other people who writes here) suggested that we turn the comments off, but I’m enjoying laughing at all of the over-reactions so they’re staying on!
Thanks again for stopping by and prepping me for what’s to come. Hopefully I won’t have to retreat into my panic room anytime soon.

 

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Wow, the single sales were great again!! I was hopefull they would be since it's stayed up there on itunes, but it's nice to see. Now we need to get the album sales up.. yikes.. anyone want to buy a couple thousand albums?

And Justin Beiber was the big winner on that poll - he was both hated and loved. Whatever bogus poll, what-ever.

 

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The poor blogger is attacked on the "worst" list by you-know-who and since the list wasn't decided by him, but by people who voted, it's not really warranted. Still, since it comes from The Conservative Journal, it's not really a surprise that Adam is #1 on that list, but I'm not sure those who voted juged only his music and his voice... which is a bit sad. Sad because Adam is somehow considered worse than the guy who beat up his girlfriend and the guy who showed once more that he was an enormous disrespectful tool.

Yeah, I see your point and agree to some extent. It does seem as if people like Kanye are on the list because of their behavior (though Kanye is a lousy singer). But I tend to think Adam made #1 because he's been so over-hyped as the "best", people are sick of hearing about him. It's a backlash. I could be totally wrong. Like you say, it's the Conservative Journal and the readers are conservative. So who knows? (I mean, why did David Archuleta make the list? Is he offensive to conservatives?)

Still, I don't really like that Adam has this built-in shield; every time someone says he sucks, it's due to homophobia. If it's not due to homophobia, then it's due to closed mindedness re his right to artistically express himself (grab crotch, simulate sex, etc). If it's not due to that, it's due to something else. If you don't like Adam Lambert, you are a bad person. If you think he sucks, it's not him, it's you who sucks. This bugs me and I'm sure it bugs a lot of people. (Not saying you said that, missaddicted. I'm talking about his fans).

(Typical response on that blog: "Bigoted anyone???? Adam is probably one of the most vocally and charismatic talented males in the last 20 years. But Hey I wouldn’t expect a’ Fair and Balanced’ opinion from you guys.")

 

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Megan's doing a live chat tonight

RIGHT NOW: LIVE Chat w/ Megan Joy

they're playing her new songs.. I really like them.

 

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Still, I don't really like that Adam has this built-in shield; every time someone says he sucks, it's due to homophobia. If it's not due to homophobia, then it's due to closed mindedness re his right to artistically express himself (grab crotch, simulate sex, etc). If it's not due to that, it's due to something else. If you don't like Adam Lambert, you are a bad person. If you think he sucks, it's not him, it's you who sucks. This bugs me and I'm sure it bugs a lot of people. (Not saying you said that, missaddicted. I'm talking about his fans).

I know what you mean. And I did think about it when reading the comments and writing my post. I hate it also when the fans bring homophobia into the mix. It's just, you know, that poll made me think that maybe he was at #1 in part because of that. Maybe. Whether we want it or not, it still exists.

In any case, it doesn't really matter, I just had mixed feelings when I saw these polls. Like "oh yay, Cook and Kris made a "best" list!" and "where is that list? Oh, in the Conservative Journal... and Adam is #1 on the worst list, weird. Or maybe not.".

 

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Actually, when I looked up that poll, I saw that my name was already in the box where you put your name to leave a comment, and so was my email. So I guess I commented at one time, on that blog. I forget why. I think the guy who writes it is a fan of Kris. But regardless of the poll, or being a conservative, he himself seems like a pretty fair person. Under the comments regarding Adam, I noticed he said if it were up to him, he would not have placed Adam on the list at all.

Also, like I said, Archie is on the list. Who is more inoffensive? Why is he there? Is it because people think he's gay and closeted?

The funny thing is, Adam is #1 on so many polls. Polls where Adam's fans vote in an organized way. The People's Choice Awards are on in 15 minutes, he'll probably win that. This was obviously one poll Adam's fans didn't hear about and didn't spam, which to me is interesting. Makes me wonder how Adam would do on all these polls if his organized fans weren't skewing all the results.

ETA: Nobody seems to hate Ellen for being gay, or Neil Patrick Harris. Maybe people do, I don't know. Actually (this opinion probably won't be too popular) I think it's just something about Adam. Like, if Kris was gay - I mean, if someone like Kris was gay -nobody would care. It's just that Adam happens to be gay and obnoxious. I don't mean Adam is always obnoxious, but that AMA performance, for ex. Deliberately obnoxious.

 

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The funny thing is, Adam is #1 on so many polls. Polls where Adam's fans vote. The People's Choice Awards are on in 15 minutes, he'll probably win that.
This was obviously one poll Adam's fans didn't hear about and didn't spam.

LOL. Yeah, I also saw that when I saw the poll. "Oh the Glamberts didn't find that poll!". I think that poll made me think too much. I shouldn't think so much about random polls. When does the new season of AI starts again? I need something else to distract me...

As for the PCA, Adam's not supposed to be there, so I bet he didn't win. It's the kind of lame award show where only the ones who win something are in attendance. So you pretty much know who wins before watching. Not that I intend to watch the PCA, I don't think I even liked any of the nominees aside from Kris.

Hey, ross (and SleepinIn too), our fandoms collide! David finally revealed who he was working with in Vancouver and it's Brian Howes. He co-wrote "Light On" with Chris Cornell (I almost wrote Kris Cornell, lol). And he worked with Daughtry I believe. But I just googled him and I learned that he also produced Hedley and Faber Drive albums... and other artists I would prefer not knowing he worked with like Hinder (they're a Hindrance to good music) and Puddle of Mudd (Puddle of Yuck).

 

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Yeah! Brian Howes! So great David is working with him. I love it.

ETA: He produced Hedley's first album, and the awesome Faber Drive album, Seven Second Surgery (their first album).

LOL. Yeah, I also saw that when I saw the poll. "Oh the Glamberts didn't find that poll!". I think that poll made me think too much. I shouldn't think so much about random polls

That reminds me, for some reason. I should vote for LLWD on VH1...

Last night on mj's blog someone from Canada mentioned Adam being #3 on the MOD countdown. Then the person invited "Canadians" to go there and vote for Adam. Of course you don't have to be Canadian to vote on MOD and you can vote multiple times. (I went over and voted for Hedley, Billy Talent, and Marianas Trench, myself.) Anyhow, once the American Glamberts find that site, look out. If they haven't already. Which wouldn't surprise me...

 

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They've already found it, don't worry.

FYE was #5 today on the countdown. Some days the kids dance to the song other days they look like they've never heard anything more boring. It's odd. (since they show the audience as the music plays) FYE doesn't really have a lot of airplay - even here - so it being on the countdown is huge, but the kids they don't really know the song aside from the countdown. Sarah and Jesse two of the VJ's have promised to do a remake of the FYE video which should be funny. At the moment they are getting the audience to send in home made videos of themselves singing popular songs.

But anyway it's been anywhere from 1-5 and off the countdown. Yesterday was good, it was #3 and Hedley was #2 Tik Tok rocked the vote.

If you contrast it to Tik Tok.. every day the dancing is crazy. The MOD audience LOVES them some Tik Tok.

This is a pretty awesome interview with Kris. He's just the coolest.

'Idol' champion Kris Allen brings a cooling trend to B.B. King's - The Kats Report - Las Vegas Sun

 

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YouTube - Kris Allen Adam Lambert American Idol 2010 Commercial Live Like We're Dying