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Just logging on to let you know I'm here -- just got here. Lots of good stuff. Going to watch it now.
 

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SleepinIn, you wrote:

I'm not saying that they knew it was going to be that risque, but really when you hype something as the most shocking thing ever. You have to own your own actions. Especially as Adam is a really new performer. They knew this was his first big thing on his own after Idol, they had a press conference a day about it (or it seemed like it) I think the onus was on ABC to make everyone aware that the most shocking thing ever can not include that. And maybe they did, and maybe that's why they're so mad.. who knows?

Basically I think what happened is that Adam did a dress rehearsal of his number, and the people who approve such things for the network, approved. Obviously, they must have approved the number. Then, in performance, he changed it. He's admitted he did. Included things that hadn't been agreed to. That's called misrepresenting yourself, or lying. You tell people you're going to do one thing, and they trust you, and then you do another thing, and they feel like you weren't honest with them. If he did that, they have a right to feel they can't trust him. They also have a right to slap him down, since they're the boss and he's not. They're hiring him and paying him, and if he screws with them, well, what do you suppose they would do?

So I think he's the one who has to own his actions.

It's true, the network was hyping something wild, and then when it was wild, and they got complaints, they suddenly acted innocent. That seems hypocritical. Maybe it is. I guess I still think he did something you shouldn't do. On live TV he went off script and rather than following the rules he did whatever he wanted to do. So I think the network has had to assert itself. They can't let some upstart kid screw with them. I don't expect you to agree with that! No problem if you don't! That's what makes life interesting.
 
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Thanks for the videos, the band and Kris sounded awesome!!

I went to see the band Hey Rosetta! tonight. Probably my last show of 2009, LOL! Anyway, I was very tired and the two opening acts seemed to last forever, but Hey Rosetta! were just amazing. Lots of heart and passion on that stage from that band from Newfoundland.

Shallow moment now: I had absolutely no clue what they looked like and was happily surprised to see that not only does the lead singer Tim Baker has a great voice, he's also a major cutie!

Just found this video... filmed live in his house, LOL. So good.

YouTube - Hey Rosetta! - There's An Arc

(He's wearing plaid, I'm in a familiar territory!)
 
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Oh no! They might not be able to show the David Cook - Carrie Underwood duet on a Van Halen song on Carrie's holiday special next Monday. Come on, TPTB, you couldn't make sure that there weren't any clearance issues BEFORE they recorded the duet... which was several weeks ago. That duet needs to be seen!

Yay, Kris got another good gig. He'll be on Leterman on December 16. Also, he suppedly recorded a song for a TV show and a "cool cover". It explains why he and Cale (at least) were in the studio recently, I guess. I'm curious!

The pre-weekend HDD predictions are in and it doesn't look good for Adam's second week sales. They don't even predict his numbers, but it seems he'll at least be under 60,000 copies sold. He'll at least have a 75% decrease in the sales, which is huge. They predict around 50% of decrease only for SuBo. It's at least good to know that controversy is not enough to generate sales by itself.
 

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Maybe it is. I guess I still think he did something you shouldn't do. On live TV he went off script and rather than following the rules he did whatever he wanted to do. So I think the network has had to assert itself. They can't let some upstart kid screw with them. I don't expect you to agree with that! No problem if you don't! That's what makes life interesting.

No, I agree with you here. I think this is the main issue too. And yes I also agree that Adam has some reponsibility as well, he did veer off script wildly and didn't get approval - so he's not completely off the hook. I just tend to think that there has been a huge overreaction. LOL - gave all the talk shows something to talk about anyway... until Tiger.

Oh no! They might not be able to show the David Cook - Carrie Underwood duet on a Van Halen song on Carrie's holiday special next Monday.

ACK!!! They really should have gotten clearance!! That sucks. Did they say they couldn't show it?

Kris in studio for a tv show song..and a cool cover.. oh, what cool cover??, what tv show?? I need to know these things.. lol

And I'm excited about Letterman too.. yay team! The Jingle Ball things are working, a friend asked me if I'd heard Kris's song - she said she heard it on Buffalo radio.. hee! I might said too much in response.... *scaring people* lol.

Re: Adam's sales plunge.

I think bundling team Kradison up together might be the way to go then, Adam's got a lock on the press, Kris has the radio stations, and Allison will go guerilla marketing posting things on youtube.
(I'm kidding, but only slightly, lol)

LLWD from Sacremento's Jingle Ball
(great sound and video)
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid47620589001?bclid=1847335599&bctid=54272234001
 
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ACK!!! They really should have gotten clearance!! That sucks. Did they say they couldn't show it?

No, David just said in an interview that it was up in the air and that TPTB had some things to work out to clear it. So, maybe it'll still happen. I hope!

Kris in studio for a tv show song..and a cool cover.. oh, what cool cover??, what tv show?? I need to know these things.. lol

Yeah, me too!!

Thanks for the Sacramento video, it's awesome. I love that we can see Chris singing along at one point (not in the microphone).
 

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Kris in studio for a tv show song..and a cool cover.. oh, what cool cover??, what tv show?? I need to know these things.. lol
Yeah, me too!!

So where did you hear this stuff??? Don't you have any more info???

That video was great. I thought Kris sounded kind of flat, but maybe it was just the video sound.

So he's going to sing two songs on SYTYCD? Or so I hear? (Could the song he recorded for a TV show have been for SYTYCD? For a dance number?)

I was in the drug store waiting for a prescription this afternoon and picked up EW, and there was a spread on the AMAs with pictures of various perfomances, and each one was graded. They gave Adam a C-. (JLo didn't do much better: C) Said the number was like "high-camp dinner theatre."

Today there was this review online of Kris's and Adam's albums.

Two Takes On Two of Fall's Most Anticipated Releases: Former 'American Idol's' Square Off in Debut Albums [Take One] - Entertainment

It's from a college newspaper, and once more Kris got a good review from a college critic. Adam didn't. Also, there are a number of comments from people who don't like Adam as a singer. This doesn't make me feel bad because, after all, neither do I. I'm not trying to be mean -- it's actually nice to feel I'm not the only person in the world who holds a particular opinion. For a while I was beginning to wonder. You know?
 
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So he's going to sing two songs on SYTYCD? Or so I hear? (Could the song he recorded for a TV show have been for SYTYCD? For a dance number?)

I would guess just one song since there is another group also singing that night. Probably LLWD.

It's interesting isn't it? Kris get's great reviews from colleges, Adam not so much.

Also, there are a number of comments from people who don't like Adam as a singer. This doesn't make me feel bad because, after all, neither do I. I'm not trying to be mean -- it's actually nice to feel I'm not the only person in the world who holds a particular opinion

You're not alone Ross don't worry. :)(Me. I like it, but I have heard rumours that there are others that don't) And you are entitled to your opinion for sure, I don't think you're being mean. Music either speaks to you or it doesn't. There's no rhyme or reason.

Kris and the gang sang The Heartless Mash-up, MITM, AWM, CSA and LLWD tonight, and I guess they were all sitting, possibly accoustic?

I like bouncy Kris.. :( But Heartless Mash-up is awesome.. I wonder if that's what they recorded? I'd like that. No WAOMF though.. *sob* I wonder if that puts CSA and AWM ahead in the running for track #2 (I don't want WAOMF for #2 but, I do love it)
 

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Thanks for the info about the songs that were performed, SleepinIn! I hope we get videos once again (maybe with less teenage squealing!).

I'm not sure the songs he performs right now are an indication of what will the second single be (I'm of the opinion that it isn't chosen at all at this point), but it's always fun to speculate!
 

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They've really perfected the walk through the crowd thing. Just yet another thing Idol trains you for.
 

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Bleh, David Cook tweeted something like "check out Claude Kelly, rad dude" or something. Which I took (not only I, but the fans in general) to mean he had a writing session with him. I mean, I thought second album meant that he was rid of the stable writers. Claude Kelly? Really? Come on, RCA. At least, as someone put it on twitter, he's writing with them now, which still gives him plenty of time to come up with stuff before they record the album or to re-work the songs with the band. I have no problem if he works with Raine and Chantal again though.

As long as it's not Kara...
 

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oh, no to the Claude. I am not down with him. lol.

MITM from Chicago, it's way low-key - but really good.
YouTube - Kris Allan

CSA - they need to move for this song, but I love it live.. aside from the sound issues of the video (arooooo)

Alright With Me ( :) )
 
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