Canadian Idol Fans Watching American Idol

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So was Joshua Ledet's the greatest performance ever on American Idol (As J-Lo said)? I'm not even sure it was the best performance on American Idol this week. I don't know what's with her. She also told D'Andre he 'can sing anything.' When he couldn't even sing what he sang. I appreciate her generosity, but I think she's loopy amd makes herself look foolish with these dumb statements.

As for the performances...I don't know, what did you guys think? This Hollie is a cutie and has the "Idol winner" personality if I ever saw it, and there's something simple and pure about her singing. I haven't watched the show regularly enough so I don't know if she can sing a lot more than these ballads. Because I would get bored with that very quickly, I think.

I didn't think too many of them were good singers tonight.
 

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I'm not a fan of Joshua's oversinging. Not at all. He's better than Jacob Lusk (has more control), but he's just too much. A little subtlety sometimes goes a long way.

It was the festival of the cheesy songs tonight, OMG!

I did like Erika and Phillip. Oh and Hollie. I know she's the kind of Idol contestant I should hate. But I kind of love her. She has such a rich pure tone. I do hope she can sing more than these ballads. I definitely think she was better than Joshua tonight.

Here's Haley Reinhart's new single "Free", I love it! Yay! Haley Reinhart - Free by Interscope Records on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
 

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Re Joshua it's not my type of music, but I can appreciate that he sang it really well. lol Kris agreed with JLo which cracked me up even tho I disagree with him.

I loved the studio version of Free, I wasn't sold on the live version but I do like that a lot. Go Haley!!

last night loved Hollie, liked Phillip, I hated Hee Jun, but I think he's hilarious. skylar was pretty good, Jessica's song choice was abysmal. Shannon, Deandre were forgettable.

your boy did good Missaddicted I think he'll sell some tunes!
 

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What happened to your recap, PoliticalNick, did you miss the show this week? I kind of releied on it last week because I missed some of that one, myself.

Anyhow....does everyone agree with the assessment of one Idol blogger that there's not a single dud in this year's Top 10 (unlike most other years)?

In a way it's true, I guess, but I think it's also true that there are no obvious superstars, either.

Random opinions...

There seems to be quite a bit of Jessica Sanchez love. I was disturbed when Steven Tyler said she should stick to ballads. This is the attitude I didn't like last year and still don't. From the show in general. Be narrow, stick to your narrow talent, narrow genre. Because then we get a winner like that. Granted last year's winner sold a gazillion albums but he didn't sell one to me. Just saying.

So...anyway...Jessica...I think it's revealing when singers go outside the lines they've performed within, up till now, because suddenly you see that they have limitations, and then I think even if they go back to doing what they did before, you now can spot those limitations more easily - if that makes any sense. But I think the show should make them do this. I think it's important. We have very few chances to see the whole performer, the person the public actually will see in a concert, let's say. You can present a performer on a stool every week if he or she can't move onstage, but someday they will have to move onstage. Like, Pia, someday, you will have to move. I don't know if I'm making a lot of sense but I'm saying I need Idol to show both stengths and weaknesses for me to make an informed choice.

Anyhow, I noticed Jessica had almost no stage presence on this particular night. For whatever reason.

And I don't get how Heejun is not a dud, because to me, he's a big one. If he wants to do comedy, fine (though I don't find him exactly hilarious), but as a singer, how is he even good? Well, he's good about half the time. Like, good and bad within the same song, all the time. But I wouldn't buy a ticket to the Idols concert to hear Heejun.

So whose music would you guys be buying, at this point in the competition?
 

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So far, I wouldn't buy any of the top 10's music. But, yeah, now that Jeremy, Jermaine and Shannon are gone, I'd say that the top 10 is pretty strong. Not that exciting though. I think my problem is not about the contestants though. It's about the show itself. Last week, I found the show so incredibly cheesy. Also, I'm very very very bored with the themes. Stevie Wonder and Whitney Houston (RIP Whitney). Zzzzzz. Billy Joel. Zzzzzz. The "Songs from the year they were born" theme could have been good since they were almost all born in the first half of the '90s, but unfortunately, more than half of them did songs that were released WAY before their birth year and were merely covered on that year. More than ever, I feel the show is old-fashioned and has absolutely nothing to do with today's music scene.
 

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I was also thinking, recently, that I wouldn't buy any of their music.

Unfortunately, that makes it two years in a row, for me. (I know you guys like Haley. I probably wouldn't buy her music, myself.) Well, actually, three years, but who's counting? lol (Actually, while I might not have bought any S9 music, I tended to like some of them and felt I potentially could have bought their music. Which is somehow different from thinking, this early in the season, that I wouldn't buy any music from anybody.) So - the "new" Idol doesn't seem to allow me to discover singers whose music I would buy. And I don't really get it. Who do I blame, for this?

Maybe Idol needs a producer in his/her twenties or early thirties, it might help.

I actually like Billy Joel. Not Billy Joel today, or Billy Joel from the period when he started doing more crappy pop music - but the Billy Joel of his early period up till, maybe, Scenes From An Italian Restaurant. On the other hand, I'm old. I played his music a lot in college, and so did everyone else. He was a major singer-songwriter for us, and he was from the suburbs of the Northeast, and the East Coast, like us. Similar in a way to Bruce Springsteen.

Other than this theme, tonight, which I have a soft spot for, I make the stank-face whenever I see "next week's theme" announced somewhere. CAN they really be this unimaginative/repetitive/boring? And why IS the show getting so cheesy? Like I said before, I like Holly, for ex., but the whole pageant-y presentation and the dress like you'd normally only wear to a wedding...what does any of this have to do with current music or tastes? I mean, I'm old but I'm not dead. I still like to see something current and fresh.

You guys may recognize this guy...

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2012/mar/21/note-grass-heat/
 
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Too bad Erika is gone. Both Heejun and Deandre should have left before her. She wasn't going to win anyway, but it would have been nice to see her for a couple more weeks.

I enjoyed the show this week. I realized I didn't really know the Billy Joel songbook, so maybe it helped since I couldn't compare to the original. I know and love Piano Man though and really hated Colton's emo version of it. He really has an unpleasant voice. And I just can't take him seriously.

But I loved Elise of course, she was spectacular. Also loved Phillip and I hope he continues to not listen to Tommy and Jimmy. Who cares if he wears grey on stage, I certainly don't. Jessica was also pretty spectacular. I continue to like Hollie, but she has to change it up really soon.

Oh and Haley was awesome last night. I really love her single!
 

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I missed Idol last week, but On Demand has both episodes, so I watched them. From what I remember...

First, I love Billy Joel as a songwriter, and I realized watching the show that his songs are not just melodious but are all about the lyrics.

First up was De Andre. Performance (and clothes) like an old Wham! video. Unfortunately he didn't get the song at all, and just performed it like the lyrics had no meaning.

I'm wondering why American Idol singers so often do this. Jacob did not do it. He he got it, understood the song and how to sing it (this video is 'off', but at least you can hear how he sings it).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSFmBYDljuk&feature=youtu.be

I'll just cut to the chase and say here my favorite of the night by far was Elise Testone. I'm not super wild about her voice, personally, but a good singer is a good singer, and speaking of understanding and interpreting a song, the lyrics, the emotion, meaning - she got it. I also think she has a lot of charm and personality onstage.

The only other one I felt got a song completely was Phillip, but it's hard for me to imagine listening to Phillip for, say, a whole album or concert. Maybe he just takes getting used to. The costume "dispute" was funny - I mean they were both a little bit right, because onstage it can be a mistake to wear street clothes that don't especially give you any distinction. A big stage isn't a street corner, you do have to adjust, I think. Even dress about the same, but wear a color.

On the other hand Phillip totally should do what he wants and be/dress as he wants, so I say **** Tommy Hilfiger. I also think whether P2 meant to or not, he made himself look like a man of integrity to the audience, which got him a lot more points than being Tommy Hilfiger's bitch would have. Heh.

Which brings me to Erika, who altered her appearance so completely. I don't know if it lost her votes, but, as a blonde, I thought she was attractive, and with the black hair...I guess I didn't. People do vote their gut feeling, so who knows? Mainly though she also did not get across the meaning or tone of the song, which is a beautiful song as sung by Billy Joel, with a lot of meaning...and as sung by her, not so much.

Joshua sang another beautiful Billy Joel song. When he said he couldn't really relate to the song...this bugged me because anyone who has been in love could relate to it, and if they haven't they might try to make it about a friend or relative or something, anything, they can relate to. I guess these singers really are young. Let's say I agreed with everything JLo said. Let's say it because...I did.

This is a live version of Billy Joel's original and it's so simple, yet deeply felt and...perfect.

http://youtu.be/5djkVhLjw18http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5djkVhLjw18&feature=youtu.be

Heejun didn't sing especially well - in fact he doesn't seem to care a lot about his singing; the main thing wrong with him as a singer (to me) is not that he has a bad voice but that he doesn't really try to perfect his vocals or work on his sound. Maybe I'm wrong but this is how he sounds to me - like a lazy singer. As for the number, I thought he moved really well I didn't get why they acted like it was so unorthodox and almost shocking. Like, Steven Tyler: don't you move all over the stage when you sing? There's nothing wrong with trying to be entertaining. I guess on American Idol you are only supposed to be "seriously" entertaining. :/

Hollie...disturbed me by standing on a pedestal. Like, move. I don't care where. Pia 2, I don't need. She has this really funny way of bending down occasionally to haul the notes out of herself. At first I thought it was different and raw but now it just seems like a bad mannerism or technique she ought to try to correct. Some of these people are really young, so they *are* raw, which is okay, I guess.

I guess I won't go through all the performances...I don't really like Colton's voice, and I don't really like to watch him, however he did a good interpretation of Piano Man. I wasn't in love with it but it was good.

Jessica has the big, big voice, amazing voice...personally I find it annoyingly "perfect" or slick...I mean I don't like singers like this, as a rule. JHud, for example. I know they're good, but they strike me as machine-like.

Results show...

I should comment on Haley...I don't really get her, I still don't care for her singing, and the slit-to-the-thigh gown and hairdo and the performance...I still feel she's trying to be who she isn't.
 
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I came in late and up next was...Heejun.

I guess he was better than usual but as a live singer those slightly off key notes just stand out too much. But at times he sounds really good, so - I don't know. Never really sure why he's there. Probably shouldn't have even made Top 24, in my opinion. But - there he is

Hollie was pitchy, dude, as well. I still don't hate her even though she sang Jesus Take The Wheel. Which normally would do it. She seems very sincere. However she's on thin ice with me. Not a lot of variety to her.

De Andre...got a standing ovation from all three of the stooges - I mean - judges? Wow. For that?

Randy pimped Jessica Simpson for what seemed like several minutes. It's amzing how people who have gone on to win the show have never gotten half that pimpage from him all season. I don't feel like talking about her performance, it was fine, I would not say she's ever inspired.

Phillip...for me, he is...someone who looks good singing, has a good singing style, is on key, is a really confident, good entertainer...who sounds like he has something major, like a whole fish, stuck in his throat. Probably a "bass" haha. But seriously, try as I might I don't like listening to him. Don't hate, but don't like.

Who else is there? Joshua. That was a pretty professional vocal, interesting, not a moment. What he does best is the big gospel-y wailage and this time I say: stick to your style. It is what it is. Or risk elimination.

Elise...as much as I loved her last week, I didn't think she nailed it this week. She sounded weak singing WLL. Did Adam sing this? If not on the show, then I guess he did later, but he killed it and she didin't. Not the right voice for this - I mean, in a club, with people drinking, in New Jersey...yeah, it would be awesome. But before millions? I think it was a bad choice for her.

Stevie Nicks looks pretty good. I don't like old women in their original hairstyles from when they were 25, as a rule - but hey it's Stevie Nicks, she has a right.
 

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I really enjoyed tonight's show! Seriously! I didn't like everyone, but those I didn't really like didn't annoy me too much either.

Elise was AWESOME!! Wow. I completely disagree with you ross. I thought she sounded incredible and I got goosebumps.

I loved Phillip as well. On a more superficial level, I love the smile in his eyes. Really looks as though he's enjoying himself.

When he sings well, Heejun has an incredible tone to his voice. I even enjoyed the beginning of Colton's song... before he went higher and nasally, ugh. Oh and is Lifehouse's Everything really about God? Might turn me off that song forever.

Jessica was really good, though I thought she was trying a little too hard to sound like Beyoncé.

I'm getting tired of Hollie too. She still has a very pretty tone, but again, a song with Jesus in the title just doesn't resonate with me at all.

I'm not too sure what the judges were hearing when Joshua performed but it definitely wasn't flawless, there were some weird notes in there. I just don't like his over the top vocal stylings and his tone.

Okay, I get that it's impressive the way that Deandre sings a song completely with his falsetto, but it's not something I would ever buy. Still, I didn't think it was too horrible.

Hard to tell who'll go home tomorrow. Probably a girl again, they ovationed 4 out of 5 guys, but they still gave a tongue bath to Colton as well.
 

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Yes you're right Heejun has that really soulful tone that is so rich and full. And emotional. I have to give him that, I just really wish he was the whole package because I do like that tone. I know he's just an amateur but he really is only a fair singer, though. I guess a lot could be done with him in the studio but at this point I couldn't see Heejun headlining a concert, and really the Idol winner should probably have that ability.

I always miss Colton. Every week. But I don't get the whoop-de-doo about him at all. That thin voice doesn't appeal to me and compared to Phillip, for instance, he doesn't have real stage presence.

Yeah Philip has something in his eyes. He has almost a hypnotic gaze. I think he has that "Idol winner" thing going on, way more than the others - even in the group photo he seems to have a lot more going on in his face than the rest. I like his joie de vivre when he's performing. His voice is just not on my "favorite things to listen to" list. Do you like it?

That's a good point about De Andre.

Jessica has singing talent, but I don't know...I don't sense it's coming from the heart or the soul. I mean maybe it is, but not for me.
 

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I'll miss Hee jun so i'm a little sad to see him go, but really it was his time. no way were the judges going to save him. So I'm totally fine with the results.

I LOVED Elise btw, I think she blew everyone out of the water last night.

Lol I think I hate Colton. It's probably the hair, and his affection for it :) probably a sweet guy, but I don't want to buy what he's selling. Deandre and his falsetto ...I just don't get him, maybe in a few years. I just think he's too young.

Philip I liked a lot, probably because he picked up the tempo a bit.

Hollie's starting to really bore me a la Pia.

I really liked Jessica and Skylar a lot. Skylar's a little spitfire. but everyone was pretty good to be honest. Hollie has to do something different next week or she could be in trouble, and I think she has a ton of talent.
 

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I do like Phillip's voice, ross. I mean, it's not the best voice I've ever heard, but he's definitely my favorite guy this season. And I do like growlers! Not sure I would necessarily run to buy his album, but seeing him perform live is entertaining. I blame the smile in his eyes, it's super attractive in a performer!

I don't get Colton either SleepinIn. But I think you know that already. It's the whiny voice, the stupid hair, the obsession with God, the over-emoting. I have pretty much the same problems with Joshua... except for the stupid hair. I kind of agreed with Jimmy last night. Conveying emotion is essential for a good artist, but the artist can't be overcome with emotion all the time. Both guys seem like super nice guys, but as artists, I can't really stand either of them.

So, I guess I'm rooting for Elise and Phillip right now. The two with the rough voices! Holly and Skylar probably both got a wake-up call last night and I'm curious to see if they'll be able to showcase themselves better or if they really lack the experience to make good song choices in this competition.
 

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Okay I understand your affection for the smile in P2's eyes, missaddicted. And it's true you do like growlers, eh? Oliver Pigott for one. What about that other guy Paul something, from CI? I don't mind a growl, but P2 sounds more like he's gargling, to me. He's somewhat like Lee, for me, though I like Lee's voice better, and if he'd have been on key more I would have liked him a lot more. P2 is on key but I don't like his voice. He absolutely has something, though. His own version of whatever Kris and Cook have. Whatever it is, call it charisma, or camera friendliness, or something.


Colton...have you guys noticed that he sorta resembles Shane Weibe? I can get past his hair, his kind of button-like eyes...but I just feel nothing when he sings (so far, anyway). Not interested. Maybe it's the voice, or something else.

Yeah, I like Elise a lot. I'm not super-super crazy about her as a singer, but she's my favorite girl. I think she has quite a bit less presence than P2 though. I don't know why Idol has a hard time finding girls who have that same quality the guys often have. In a way, Hollie seems to have that, but she's wearing me out, as a singer. Either lighten up, or move, or do something happy, I don't know, I'm stumped.

I called Jessica Sanchez, Jessica Simpson, in the last post. Oops. Freudian slip, maybe.

Your'e right SleepinIn, about Skylar. She has a lot of personality and...just something. Maybe this year's true dark horse.
 

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Just reread my last post and it's like it was written by someone else. Do I really feel that way, about these people? lol

After tonight's show, no.

I don't even get this show. Like the judges praising Colton? Notice I didn't say "over-praising," because I think ANY praise was too much praise. Randy called him current. I don't even think he looks that current - it's kind of a four years ago look - but what makes him sound or perform "current"? Anyhow he's a terrible singer so maybe he's going home. He seems really nice, that's about the best I can do.

A standing O for Skylar? (That sounds like the title of a young adult novel, doesn't it? A Standing O For Skylar.) I'm sorry, I thought her performance was a mess, and she even looked bad, and all the time she had this confident, brave expression, which made me somehow feel depressed. Because she probably thought she was great, and she really is not a good singer. This year the kids really seem like kids, to me. I mean, less polished, more truly hopeful and aspiring. So I'm inclined not to feel like ripping them apart.

Holly was mediocre. I hate what they hang on these girls this year, also. The matronly, wedding-like clothing, the bad hairstyles and even bad jewelry. They probably pick it out themselves - if so, they need an intervention. Joshua can also be invited.

But anyway...eh, sorry to be so sarcastic, I just want to be entertained, wowed, blown away, or charmed.

I was prepared to like Phillip but he's not my cuppa, and he tends, now, to just seem like he's always doing the same number. I think even what I said about his charisma last time was wrong. Or overdone, anyhow.

I'll stop here.
 

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Heh. After this week, I'm not sure if I want to honk. I don't understand how it is people like Joshua or Colton. My brain is not processing it. I think Joshua always sounds like a huge mess. This week, at the end of his performance, I was literally saying "stop it" out loud in front of my TV. Same with Colton. I agree ross that he's a terrible singer, how come people think he's good? I don't get it. And turning Time After Time into a Nickelback song was an unforgivable choice.

And now, I see people saying that Phillip is smug after his comments last night. What? I don't get it. Okay, yeah, he does the same thing everytime, but maybe if they gave him some constructive criticism, it would help! And let's say I enjoy what he does about a billion times more than what Joshua, Colton or Jessica do. Good for you dude if you're just being yourself, I enjoy it.

I think I'll hate the rest of this season. And I barely even want to read Slezak's recaps anymore, I know I'll disagree with pretty much everything he says.

Are you glad I posted ross? LOL.

Oh, and I forgot to point out how I hate how Jessica is so litteral with her interpretation of the songs. She did this in the past, but it's worst now that it really seems deliberate on her part. On the word "phone", she made the phone gesture with her hands, and on the word "shy", she kind of opened her mouth and put her hand in front of it, you know the literal gesture for "shy". And she did both those moves twice! Come on girl, that's ridiculous! I can't believe nobody on set told her she was ridiculous doing that.
 

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Joshua always sounds like a huge mess. This week, at the end of his performance, I was literally saying "stop it" out loud in front of my TV.
I know what you mean. I've tried that, too. But he keeps on singing!! It's just rude.

Kris thinks Joshua is one of the best singers ever on Idol. There's a strong possibility Kris has been drinking during the broadcasts. Not that I'd blame him.

I didn't see the Phil 'incident'. I only read about it, and it sounds like he's my type of guy, in that way. I can't really blame an artist for wanting to resist people wanting to change him into something he isn't. Far from being smug, I think it's admirable.

Okay, yeah, he does the same thing everytime, but maybe if they gave him some constructive criticism, it would help!
True. One thing that becomes more clear in the second season with the same judges/mentor is that none of them are especially good at giving any helpful criticism that anyone at home couldn't also have figured out (usually about two to three weeks earlier). The American version of Idol was always weak in this regard but at least Simon sometimes gave some blunt reactions, that the singers could perhaps interpret as constructive. After they had stopped crying.

It would be great to see good performers tweaked into greatness by some mentoring or judging that was actually careful, well-observed, astute, etc. If only.

I haven't been reading Slezak but Idology with him and Melinda Doolittle has been hilarious. And I think they - especially she - have had some good observations. Have you been watching it, missaddicted?

Oh, and I forgot to point out how I hate how Jessica is so litteral with her interpretation of the songs. She did this in the past, but it's worst now that it really seems deliberate on her part. On the word "phone", she made the phone gesture with her hands, and on the word "shy", she kind of opened her mouth and put her hand in front of it, you know the literal gesture for "shy". And she did both those moves twice! Come on girl, that's ridiculous! I can't believe nobody on set told her she was ridiculous doing that
Lol - really? I can't believe I haven't even noticed that! I'm going to watch for it next time. I'm guilty of tuning her out a bit, when she's on. Like, I go out to the kitchen and fix food, or whatever. I'm not that impressed with her voice, and she seems dull, to me.

In a way, I can believe nobody told her it was ridiculous, since they seem to love the most cheesy, stupid things, on this show. And they think we do, too, I guess.
 
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