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missaddicted

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Ha, I thought about that when I was listening to it. "Missaddicted is not going to like this.. " lol

Yep, I'm predictable like that, LOL! And yeah, it's great that he's singing young songs and all, but it's still forgettable crap. And I'll stop there, because I feel myself going into a "I hate that commercial pop music has been reduced to forgettable crap" tirade and we don't need that!
 

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Ha! I just posted the Metric video on twitter! I love the song. Sucks that I can't buy it on iTunes (same with the Florence & The Machine song). I hate how they sell soundtracks on iTunes. There's no way I want to buy the whole thing.

Apparently, the live-stream crashed, nothing's playing anymore...
 

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Ha, I thought about that when I was listening to it. "Missaddicted is not going to like this.. " lol
Yep, I'm predictable like that, LOL! And yeah, it's great that he's singing young songs and all, but it's still forgettable crap. And I'll stop there, because I feel myself going into a "I hate that commercial pop music has been reduced to forgettable crap" tirade and we don't need that!

I gave an opinion about it also. :roll:

Even though I think I defended pop music a bit, recently, I have to say:

People really should try to put out good music, not just poppy junk. If it's possible for them to do that. Maybe they could fight a bit to do that. The more artists who get sucked into that "light, mindless, pop" vortex, the worse it is for music in general. I'm not a big Archuleta fan, but he's supposed to be a great singer, so he should try to put out great music, not autotuned pop drek. jmho.
 

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Why are you rolling your eyes?

People really should try to put out good music, not just poppy junk. If it's possible for them to do that. Maybe they could fight a bit to do that. The more artists who get sucked into that "light, mindless, pop" vortex, the worse it is for music in general. I'm not a big Archuleta fan, but he's supposed to be a great singer, so he should try to put out great music, not autotuned pop drek. jmho.

I agree with that for sure. Good pop music exists, it's just not present in the most obvious places.
 

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Why are you rolling your eyes?

I was just kidding because I felt left out. :(

Archie's singing gets on my nerves really fast because it has no nuance, or very little. It's singing like that that was the reason I never liked to watch AI in the past. Technically good, on pitch, strong, but just not really "human." I was shopping and was listening to "Crush" -- standing under the speaker -- and after a minute of it I thought I felt like I couldn't stand any more. Like, literally. It just got on my nerves so much. That can't be good.
 

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I gave an opinion about it also.

LOL - yes but I really knew missaddicted wouldn't like it. You might have went either way.

Archie's singing gets on my nerves really fast because it has no nuance, or very little.

Or not. :p

I never was a big fan of Archie's singing on the show - kinda drove me nuts actually.. I liked David though, but I really did like Crush, and I like this new song too. It's kinda of light bubblegum-y pop, but I'm okay with that. :)

Awww. Kris's dad singing.

YouTube - Baby's got her Blue Jeans on - Neil Allen
YouTube - The Dance - Neil Allen
 

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LOL - yes but I really knew missaddicted wouldn't like it. You might have went either way.

Exactly. I'm kind of surprised I disliked it so much. My favorite parts were when he went high. I liked those parts a little bit more. But, you know, how many more autotuned pieces of mindless pop crud do we really need, at this point? I'm getting my fill. This reaction is partly due to forcing myself to listen to Kiss108, lately. Because I want to hear "The Truth." Yesterday I heard Ryan Seacrest say, "This is the #1 song, and it really, really deserves it. Katy Perry, with Snoop Dogg, California Girls."

And it deserves to be because...?? It's such a well-crafted song? It's so well sung? It cleverly includes a rap part on a pop vocal, because we all know that's never been done before? The song is annnoying and her voice gets on my nerves. I wish she had stayed in Milwaukee and married Jamar Rogers.

(You probably like it, SleepinIn. You seem to like many of the hit songs. So, what do think of it? How about you, missaddicted?)

Replying to your comment about Crush: I also liked that song. It's a good pop song, and I reacted ok to it originally. I guess I just suddenly had my fill of it, though. I'm glad you said his singing got on your nerves on the show. He just reminds me of a Disney teen singer.

Kris's dad: considering he doesn't sing every day and practice at it, he's excellent. He "connects to the words and the emotion" pretty well, doesn't he? He moved me with his singing and just his presence, I guess.
 
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I liked Crush as well. But, it's just that kind of song you also get tired of pretty easily. But still, I thought Crush was so much better than his new single. And yes, I know Archie is young and they want to push him in that "teen singer" kind of vibe, but he's also a good musician, so I feel that his potential is somehow wasted when he sings that kind of mindless autotuned pop song.

What do I think of the Katy Perry song? I heard it once and it's three minutes of my life I'll never get back. *shudders* I liked I Kissed A Girl two years ago, I really did! But now, since I feels exactly like this:

But, you know, how many more autotuned pieces of mindless pop crud do we really need, at this point? I'm getting my fill.

I can't stand this type of songs anymore.
 

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And yes, I know Archie is young and they want to push him in that "teen singer" kind of vibe, but he's also a good musician, so I feel that his potential is somehow wasted when he sings that kind of mindless autotuned pop song.

You said what I was trying to say. Thanks.

By the way, does anyone else ever notice how in a lot of pop songs there is no longer an instrumental part, an interlude where there's no singing? "Crush" is like that, I think (not sure, right at the moment). In pop songs when I was growing up there always seemed to be a part where the person stopped singing momentarily and the band took over. I think it's tiring to listen to two or three minutes of just singing.

I don't think I actually liked Kiss A Girl until Jesse Cottam and Jacob Hoggard covered it.

It's kinda of light bubblegum-y pop, but I'm okay with that. :icon_smile:

I'm okay with Bieber doing that kind of music. I'm okay with Archie doing it, too, but, after all, unlike Biebs, Archie is supposed to be an artist. His first album was so pop that I kind of hoped he would get a chance to do more 'real music' this time around. (I took his album out of the library last year. Tried to listen to it, but couldn't.) Even though he's not really the singer-songwriter type.

It's like the songs Kelly Clarkson has to sing to have radio hits. Maybe she wants to, I don't know. But I have a feeling a lot of them really don't want to do this music.

I wonder what Cook is going to be coming out with? See, him, I can't see losing who he is. He's too mature, and he knows who he is. I don't see him being pushed in directions not to his liking. Archie maybe is just more of a chameleon who adapts to songs they give him to sing.

The sad thing is they can't really go anywhere without radio hits these days.
 
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His first album was so pop that I kind of hoped he would get a chance to do more 'real music' this time around.

Yes, that was my hope as well. And I actually think Archie would like to be in that "singer-songwriter" category. He listens to that music, not to Bieber and Miley Cirus. And good point about Kelly. I think she wants to be more than a boring pop star as well. And she can actually do a lot of things, country, rock, etc. She's not limited like Kesha for example. It's frustrating to see that wasted potential.

You know, I'm actually worried that I'm not going to like Cook's album. Not like a huge worry, but it did cross my mind. For two reasons mainly. First, because I'm scared they're so going to go after that pop (power-pop) radio hit, which bleh. Second, his type of music isn't actually my favorite type of music. I mean I like rock music, but I usually like my rock music to be a little artsy, LOL, you know with weird intrumentations and different song structures. Cook can be really "verse-chorus-verse-chorus-brigde-chorus". I think he would actually like to go into different directions with his music (like when he talked about recording an a capella song), but I'm not sure the label is that excited by ideas like this. Doesn't really fit on the radio. I don't think Cook will do something that doesn't seem like him, but you know, the guy wants to be big. Him and his band, they want to play stadiums, not small clubs. I don't know if it will actually happen, but if they tell him that a big power-pop hit is the way to go, I can see David playing along with that idea.

ETA:

I just read a new interview with my favorite band Hey Rosetta! about their next album that makes me believe that yes, everyone wants to produce "singles" nowadays. Thought it fit well into the discussion going on here:

Baker hints that this new full-bodied sound will likely be more accessible than the group's previous work, which favoured long songs with slow buildups. "I did have singles on the mind, a little bit, as I was writing. So there's a few songs that are under five minutes that might end up being singles."

From here: Exclaim News: Hey Rosetta! Talk "Bigger" New Album

But he also talks about using throat singers and string quartets, which makes me happy, LOL. Actually, I'm not worried in that case, I trust Tim Baker 100% musically, even if he actually had the goal to write some singles this time around.
 

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(You probably like it, SleepinIn. You seem to like many of the hit songs. So, what do think of it? How about you, missaddicted?)

Guilty as charged. :) I actually love it, and immediately bought it on itunes when it was released and I don't really have all that much Katy Perry in my itunes. In fact I now have a total of 3 songs. I Kissed a Girl, and her cover of Electric Feel (which is really good) and California Gurrls. Although she impressed me more than I thought she would when she was on Much doing a live special after the MMVA's.

I tend to like more of the electronic/autotuned stuff that's out now than you guys do (and radio friendly.. I'm all over it). I just look at it as a fad, it's not going to last forever - at least not in the form it's in now. People will probably always use it as a tool but eventually not in every song on the radio. These things go in cycles. I do get tired of the autotuned stuff too especially when the song is better when sang straight. But I do think there is a place for it.. at times... a small place mind you.. but a place.

ETA:

I read that Hey Rosetta article too - and I'd like to hear them on the radio so I'm glad he's thinking singles, but yeah throat singers don't scream radio friendly.. although who knows that could be the next big fad. :) They're playing Parliament Hill today - I wonder if they'll be on the televised portion.. ?
 
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I think it's okay for some bands to do one or two radio friendly songs as long as they don't make it the whole album. They need radio play.

I can't really reply now as I have to go to work soon. I really don't like Katy Perry's voice. I often turn the radio off in disgust halfway through her songs. I think she had a gimmicky first hit. Someone like that would have been a one-hit wonder, a while ago, but now you can build a career on it. If the person can't sing, what are we listening to? But, to each his/her own. :)

I don't mind poppy stuff. I love Faber Drive, as you know. What was funny about them is that they suddenly weren't poppy enough, and had to do a dance tune. I mean, they were so poppy already!

Their whole first album was pop. (Power pop? I don't know the terms.) Supposedly pop-punk, but, like Hedley, that's really in name only. They had about four hits off that album, but they decided to go with autotune/dance for their first single off this one. Now that's kind of a telling development. (In their defense, I think they just really like dance music, also.)

I think you're right, SleepinIn, that this is just a phase (although that's what everyone said about rap).

I'm probably more of a fan of Cook as a singer, as he is a truly awesome singer, than I'm a fan of his music. But I'm not typical. I like stuff that's a bit arty, also. Anyhow, in a way, I want him to play stadiums, but I want him to be able to do the music he likes.

I have to stop now...

PS. I would like to hear a duet between Cook and Allison. To me, he's a much better fit with her than Adam has been. Kris and Allison worked well together, but I just can hear David and her together, somehow.
 

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I wonder if they'll be on the televised portion.. ?

Not counting on it, they don't advertise them. But the show will air on CBC radio 2 and I think it will also be shown live on CBC's website. The whole show is between 7 and 10 pm.

But I do think there is a place for it.. at times... a small place mind you.. but a place.

The problem is that it's EVERYWHERE! A little diversity would be good. When I listen to the radio, I feel like I'm listening to the same song over and over again. Tiring.

PS. I would like to hear a duet between Cook and Allison. To me, he's a much better fit with her than Adam has been. Kris and Allison worked well together, but I just can hear David and her together, somehow.

I would prefer a Cook/Clarkson duet! It would probably be cool with Allison, but I don't know if she's worked on her enunciation problems, because they bug.
 
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Not counting on it, they don't advertise them. But the show will air on CBC radio 2 and I think it will also be shown live on CBC's website. The whole show is between 7 and 10 pm.

I'm watching the live afternoon show now - Barenaked Ladies are on it - I think. And I'm sure the Queen is bored to tears. But, yeah.. they don't tell you who is on this show which drives me nuts so you end up watching weird random acts you've never heard of. Probably why they don't tell you, come to think of it. Throat singing is all well and good but I actually don't want to listen to an album of it. 8O

The problem is that it's EVERYWHERE! A little diversity would be good. When I listen to the radio, I feel like I'm listening to the same song over and over again. Tiring.

That's true. They overplay and when the songs are similar sounding and then everything gets overplayed it is too much. Even songs you like then drive you nuts.

Duets.. I'm going to have to think of that one..
 

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If you see them on the afternoon show, please tell me! I'm recording it, but if they're not on there, I'm not that interested in watching the queen for two hours!

LOL, an album full of throat singing? Yeah, not for me either! But as an effect in a song? I'm totally up for it!
 

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Tim made an appearance!! Whoot.

He was one of the people on stage for a group sing of 'Share the Land' (which was awful - why that song?) - I don't think they were on it otherwise and they didn't show much of Tim on stage. #FAIL

He got to meet the Queen though and he looks thrilled. Just watch the last 5 minutes of the show - seriously.

or actually the last 15 minutes ... it's still got 15 minutes to go I think.

The Queen looks happy the show is over :)
 

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Yeah, I just watched it, LOL! I can't believe there were all these random acts and Hey Rosetta! didn't even perform at the noon show (or they didn't show it)! Hopefully, they'll be there tonight!

Tim looked like a little kid all excited to be singing that song and shaking the hand of the Queen! I still can't believe a guy who has such boyish charm sing with THAT voice, LOL.

*ahem* Stopping now or I'll embarass myself once again. Lucky for us, ross is at work.
 

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I hope they show Hey Rosetta and tonights show isn't just a retread of today.

Tim looked like a little kid all excited to be singing that song and shaking the hand of the Queen! I still can't believe a guy who has such boyish charm sing with THAT voice, LOL.

He was very bouncy wasn't he? lol

*ahem* Stopping now or I'll embarass myself once again. Lucky for us, ross is at work.

LOL - yeah sorry for the SQUEE Ross. Tim!!! :)
 

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I hope they show Hey Rosetta and tonights show isn't just a retread of today.

Well, they were rehearsing earlier this week and Hannah Georgas even tweeted that she could hear them from her hotel room. Also, the show is longer tonight. I hope they really show it here: Canada Day - CBC Canada

Tim!!! :icon_smile:

Eeeee!

Hey, it's the start of the Idol tour tonight as well.

*crickets*

Did you see Slezak's tweets (and his exchange with Cook)? LOL. Allen Cook. I approve of this character name.