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PS -- The New York Post sent a critic to Indio, California, to cover Adam's set at a casino?? Unbelievable.
No, I don't think so, since they wrote this:

It was because he wrote this (boldface) that I thought he was there:

Although he's dressed a bit like my great aunt Eunice after she has one too many Manhattans and plays "Liza" in her closet, Adam Lambert blew the roof off Indio California's Fantasy Springs Resort & Casino over the weekend. And thankfully, his loyal legion of Glamberts has popped a bunch of the performances up on them there interwebbies.

Usually a reporter who wasn't there doesn't talk like he was there. It would be, "from all reports" or "people who went to the concert said..." You can't say what happened if you weren't there.

But I can see now he obviously wasn't there.
 

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Reading over the TWoP Kris thread...guh.

Actually I think that, whatever the reason Kris's tour has been put back a bit, it's a good thing. Somehow I think these events he's doing are better. His name recognition has been lower than some other Idols. A tour wouldn't give him much more name recognition, but these events do, especially seeing as how so many are sponsored by radio stations who advertise the gigs heavily. I think it builds demand for Kris, and it also gives him precious time to get more and more seasoned as a performer. So that when he does tour, he'll be both better known and more comfortable with his band and with audiences than he was in January or February. Also, he may get to have a second hit single before he begins his tour.

His album sales haven't been huge, but album sales aren't the only way he (and 19) can make money. A lot of people who are in demand as live performers haven't necesarily sold millions of albums (including the aforementioned Liza). What I like is that Kris is getting out there, getting his name out there, and audiences seem really to love him. Plus I think he's making money, which is good for him and good for his management. So -- win.
 

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I agree I don't think not touring right away is a bad thing at all either. I think when they do tour they want to pick the right direction, and Kris coming off Idol does give them a lot of opportunities to make more money doing one-offs than new bands really have the luxury of doing seeing how they're trying to eat and have a roof over their heads.

Radio gigs also really help with airplay. They just do. Networking is huge. I think I watched an interview with Barenaked Ladies once where they talked about breaking into radio in the US. And said the secret is just keep going to stations, and play shows, and then do it again. That it's a LOT of work because the market is so huge, but it pays off in the end.

They seem to be doing the same thing at the moment. A lot of radio shows.
 

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So we agree on Kris, anyway. :) Adam, not so much. :-( How do you feel about Anoop? :lol:

I wonder if there is any video of Hedley at the closing ceremonies?

Oh, and I think that talk about Kris touring or not was started by the troll we like to call TTFOE (The Three faces Of Eve) on TWoP. Something about the "winner" not being the "first to tour." (I don't know who is -- Danny, I guess?). People just keep on answering her/him/other. Ignoring would be such sweet payback.
 
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Speaking of Adam, here's a long article about him and the subject of gays in music. The comments are also interesting. Here's part of one:

Adam’s strongest attribute, besides his incredible voice, is his honesty. It can also get him into hot water periodically, but that is a risk he is willing to take. If some in the gay community want to "pass" or stay under the radar, that is fine. but Adam should not be ostracized for not choosing that route. I was thrilled for Adam’s sake when he came out in RS.

Most gay men aren't like Adam. If some are straight acting it doesn't mean they're "passing" or "flying under the radar." This is the stuff that bothers me. Most people just are who they are. For instance, Kris could be gay and be exactly as he is now, only gay. It wouldn't mean he was hiding anything, or that Adam is "braver" because Adam is a different kind of gay man. I was just at a party where there were about 50-50 gay and straight people, and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart unless you knew them. Unfortunately, many straight people seem to be under the impression that Adam is more "honest" when he is really just more of a cross-dresser, or more into S&M, or more unusual, or something. It's very unfortunate.

I think it’s kinda hard for the gay community to admire him. I can’t talk for everyone, but I do react as to how his marketing is set up. It’s just to caiter to his straight female fans. The photoshoot with a naked woman made that really clear. And how many times has he talked about finding women attractive and saying he wants to have sex with a woman? He’s only gay when it suits him and bi or hetero when he decides that’s where the money is. That makes him a coward and people don’t praise cowardice.

I think the above poster is referencing some stuff I have thought about. I don't necesarily think Adam is cowardly. But I do think he changes his spots depending on the situation, as I've said a few dozen times. I don't necessarily even blame him for it, we all do that in life at times. I guess I only have an issue with his hypocrisy if he then acts all misunderstood or persecuted for "just being who he is," since that does seem to vary.

He served as a role modle for the weird kids out there, inspiring and refreshing new ideas. I think what the gay & lesbian community had to realize is that to achieve the recognition, they have to stand out and show themselves. Hiding in the closet or taking the "safe" road will never get the biased straight to notice that they are actually normal. Straight and gay are actually all the same. Before knowing the Lambert person, I didn’t know who gays are and what they do. Subconsciously I regared them as abnormal. Matter-of-factly, I didn’t know them.

And you still don't know them! "Knowing" Adam is to know one gay person, not all gay people. It's like knowing one person from China and extrapolating all kinds of things about Chinese people based on that one acquaintance.

And again, this stuff about "taking the safe road' from someone who admits no knowledge of gay culture. "Hiding in the closet or taking the "safe" road will never get the biased straight to notice that they are actually normal." I think this is basically equating being a non-flamboyant gay to hiding in the closet. It's two entirely different things, obviously. I kind of get from a lot of posts on the boards that any gay person who is not as OTT as Adam is somehow hiding their true colors, while he is incredibly brave and doing what his peers all want to do but don't have the guts to do. That is so wrong-headed I can't even go into it. There are as many kinds of gays as there are straights. get a clue, people!
 
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Wow, so I'll take a spot on the Grassy Knoll once again. Crystal is too sick to perform tonight, so the boys will be on tonight, and the girls tomorrow. I would be outraged, but since I'm not objective and I love Crystal (so far), I hope that she's okay and that she'll be able to perform tomorrow. Still, from what I've read, the move is unprecedented and they haven't done something like that to accomodate someone before. Apparently, a few other girls (other favorites like Didi, Lilly and Katelyn) have been sick this week.

I hope the boys are ready for tonight... can't deliver a mess like last week!
 

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I was just looking at MJ's and there was talk that Crystal's diabetes is giving her complications. I think she's really good too so I hope she's okay.

I do wonder about the boy's state of readiness too though. 8O
 

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Wow, so I'll take a spot on the Grassy Knoll once again. Crystal is too sick to perform tonight, so the boys will be on tonight, and the girls tomorrow. I would be outraged, but since I'm not objective and I love Crystal (so far), I hope that she's okay and that she'll be able to perform tomorrow.

Why would you be outraged? Sorry, I guess I don't get it.

I do wonder about the boy's state of readiness too though. :shock:

I don't think one day makes that much difference, if (I assume) they've been preparing all week. If the guys weren't ready today to perform tomorrow, I'd be surprised. They need to memorize, rehearse and sing a song that lasts 90 seconds. They have all week to do that. Come on.
 

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Why would you be outraged? Sorry, I guess I don't get it.

Because it was a last minute decision, and yes, the guys should have prepared but still, they didn't wake up this morning thinking they would perform tonight. The girls were probably mentally prepared (I hope!) and then, they're told they have to wait. So one could argue that it's not fair. Also, contestants have been sick before (especially in season 7, 2-3 girls could barely stand during one of the semi-finals night, and Cook was transported to the hospital on Top 9 night), and they never did something like this. I'm okay with the decision, and really hope Crystal is okay, but I do see how somebody could say it would be unfair to do something like this.
 

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Yeah, I guess it could be unfair, but if someone is too sick to perform I don't see what they can do. Obviously it's serious enough that she couldn't perform.
 

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Mike Lynche.

I didn't like it as much as the judges. He doesn't really do it for me, I guess. Then the whole baby thing is very tiresome. Not the first person who ever had a child.
 

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Big Mike impressed tonight! Not that I'm completely sold or anything, but I at least enjoyed him and I'm now taking him seriously, which I wasn't before.

Lee has the pimp spot, I'm shocked!
 

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John Park. I'm not surprised English isn't his first language. When he sang last week, I noticed his accented English. (It's not there when he speaks, though.) I think John is charisma challenged. He seems nice, pretty good looking, but the star quality is kinda nil.

And that song was mehhhh.
 

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I'm agreeing a lot with Simon this year. It scares me. Oops, the old "he has a great look" thing (Ellen).

Is it in him? (Some of the judges are saying he "has it in him.") I don't really know. But I'm not too impressed. Not bad, just not great. Who he is as an artist? I have no idea. Is he an artist?
 

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Casey James.

Randy: Can see him "winning."
Ellen: "Stiffness." That is correct.
Kara: Shut up, Kara.
Simon: No "grit." That was indeed part of the problem. But stiffness/nervousness was more the problem, I thought.

Casey, don't speak. That only gave Simon a chance to answer back with his "sand" comment. Which is probably what people will remember. Somehow, Simon's "sand," though, didn't sound overly harsh, while Kara's "dirt" did, and seemed unnecessary (plus, it wasn't Bigmouth's turn, she already had her turn).