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Just was reading the thread on the blog, concerning Lyndsey's article about Kris acting on that new teen show, seems to have really set off some of the fans of...well, someone whose name is not Kris Allen. I think one of them (whose username is reminiscent of a striped cat) possibly blew a gasket. Especially after someone suggested Kris should appear on Glee.
 

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Gee, I liked that L. Parker interview. Kris is really great at interviews now, even though I said he wasn't, the other day (Boston/Fox interview was like pulling teeth) -- in this one, he did almost all the talking, and was very interesting and articulate. The funny thing to me is when he can't remember something, and he closes down the whole interview to think! LOL. He tries so hard to answer the questions asked, if he can.
 

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The funny thing to me is when he can't remember something, and he closes down the whole interview to think! LOL. He tries so hard to answer the questions asked, if he can.

So true. I liked that interview too. I love the interviews Kris does with people he's met before, he's so much more comfortable. It always cracks me up though that Cale seems to be quieter than Kris.

I meant to ask you guys did you join MJ's Pool? I have 3 points. Woot!
 

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The Star editor apologizes again for the reality tv blog poor fact checking. Thanks Toronto Star.

Not to be picky, but more in the interest of "truth" (lol), she didn't actually apologize -- though maybe I'm just not finding it. She did say this:

These readers are right to hold the Star responsible for the accuracy of everything it publishes in print, online or through social media tools such as Twitter – whether the report be about a prime minister or a reality TV star.

She then goes on to praise Debra Yeo for admitting she was wrong. I found that amusing -- I don't know what other choice she had. And I don't really think she ever got it.
 
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Aw, David "Hello" *waves*

I just saw Aaron Spears on tv! He's playing drums for Usher at the Whistler concert.
 

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Not to be picky, but more in the interest of "truth" (lol), she didn't actually apologize -- though maybe I'm just not finding it. She did say this:

I took the entire fact that she wrote a blog about the whole incident to be the apology. :) I accept that.

Debra did apologize, but yes, I agree she was still kinda snarky about it all. Snarky or not, for me she admitted an error and I'll take it.

I really liked your point about Kris and his experience on Idol and after giving him a lot of experience with how tv shows are made, not just tv, but live tv. I don't think he's after an Oscar with his appearance on a Teen Nick show. You're right, the outcry doesn't have a lot to do with Kris.
 

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Damn, Lie was sounding so good...

Oh, and he's talking about other surprises... new song?? (Yes please!!).

Eeeee!

(I missed him!)
 

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I took the entire fact that she wrote a blog about the whole incident to be the apology. :icon_smile: I accept that.

I guess I don't see a lot of contrition. It seemed like she was trying to place the blame on twitter. It's irrelevant how the news was spread, it was false.

She then goes on to a long story about how a false report of the death of Gordon Lightfoot was wrongly attributed to the Star, on twitter, and how the mayor ended up apologizing to the Star after he found out what he read on twitter was not the Star's doing.

She compared this with the Debra Yeo thing, even though in Yeo's case, the Star did report a falsehood, and twitter was not to blame for that.

I thought that instead of apologizing, she was actually trying to excuse what happened by making generalizations about how news is spread online and how untrustworthy that is. And I guess I didn't feel that was the issue.

Debra did apologize, but yes, I agree she was still kinda snarky about it all. Snarky or not, for me she admitted an error and I'll take it.

It would have been very hard for her not to admit an error, but if she wanted to do it, the only way to do it would have been sincerely.

The thing is, none of these people seem to realize they're dealing with real people whose careers they have the potential to hurt. There's a lot of superiority in the attitudes of both Debra Yeo and this other woman when they refer to "reality TV" (this one says the editorial would seem to be more appropriate to a gossip mag). It's as if because AI is not a serious thing, by extension Kris is not really all that important. She starts off the editorial saying she never heard of him, "not being a follower of reality television." The whole tone is borderline condescending.

I'm sorry, I really don't want to sound like I'm arguing with your viewpoint, and I probably sound like I'm making too much of it. But, let's face it, a simple, sincere apology from Debra Yeo would have been the only appropriate response, because she was irresponsible. As for the editorial, I expected less rationalizing and more apologizing, I guess.
 
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OMG! Got new song!! Called "You And I", he co-wrote it with David Hodges! (He talked about it to Slezak). The sound was definitely not optimal, but it sounded GOOOOOD! Uptempo and catchy and all, YAY!

And now, I can't go to bed without waiting for video...

ETA: Oh, and Carly Smithson (from season 7) joined him onstage and they did Heart's Barracuada (they wanted to do it during the Idol tour, but it never happened... now it did!).
 

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She starts off the editorial saying she never heard of him, "not being a follower of reality television." The whole tone is borderline condescending.

Oh, for sure that is condescending. I think it's a battle all the AI people have to deal with every time the media cover them. For the press that cover the Idol world it's different. They do know that these people are talented but for the world outside that bubble, they still put them down with the reality moniker. Never mind the fact that by the end of the show they've done so many live shows, and have proven that they can sing and entertain live.

So yes, I agree her post was condescending, but the fact that she did a post at all was what I liked. Rationalizing or not. ;)
 

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So yes, I agree her post was condescending, but the fact that she did a post at all was what I liked. Rationalizing or not.

Well, I can see what you're saying. I also have to say, the fact that the editorial was done at all proves that the response to the original article was significant. It was important enough for her to have to address it.
 

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What I think sucks is that Let It Be never made it to iTunes Canada... and now I don't think it will. What a missed opportunity.
 

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BTW, I don't get why "this is going to be the girls' year." I mean, it seems pretty equal, suck-wise.

What I think sucks is that Let It Be never made it to iTunes Canada... and now I don't think it will. What a missed opportunity.

Wonder who can be contacted about that? Seems like someone ought to complain to the Idol producers. Or is iTunes to blame?

ETA: Wonder how Lifehouse fans managed to beat the Glamberts? Also, why is the Script's "video" not a video at all? It's even listed as "The Script (Live)."?

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I don't think Let it Be will Make it to Canadian itunes. And that really does suck.

The Link Ellen tweeted for the song is this one

Idol Gives Back - American Idol - StumbleUpon

and it says this.

American Idol winner Kris Allen traveled to Haiti with the United Nations Foundation to raise further awareness of the country's continuing needs after the earthquake. During a special American Idol results show which aired Thursday, Feb. 25, Allen performed and shared footage of his emotional trip to raise awareness and funds that will benefit those in need. Donations received either online or via text-messaging by 8pm ET on Friday, Feb. 26, go to the Idol Gives Back Foundation (IGBF) to help the United Nations Foundation (Join Kris Allen in Helping Haiti) and their work in Haiti. After that time, donations will be distributed among the group of beneficiaries of the Idol Gives Back Foundation. Additionally, you can download Kris Allen's emotional performance of "Let It Be" exclusively on iTunes (U.S. only). All proceeds raised by this download through March 25, 2010 will go to IBGF to help the United Nations Foundation's work in Haiti. Click here to purchase. Stay tuned for Idol Gives Back on Wednesday, April 21 at 8/7c on FOX, to see how you can continue to help in the U.S. and abroad.

So yep, missed opportunity.

Lifehouse - the new Glamberts - LOL.