Nice! Kris has good taste! But we knew that already.
It's true. He did look a bit like he was trying too hard. He was really pimped too, so he too probably suffered from high expectations!
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Nice! Kris has good taste! But we knew that already.
It's true. He did look a bit like he was trying too hard. He was really pimped too, so he too probably suffered from high expectations!
What, you mean he didn't say Adam? Another thing he'll be raked over the coals for. I don't usually like Alicia Keyes, she usually sounds flat to me. But she sounded good and she and JZ did by far the best number.
Certain things were bugging me yesterday. probably most of all that performance of Adam's and his responses to criticism. I'm really disappointed in him. I'm disappointed also if people think there's no limits to what you can do and still call it "entertainment." I guess I'm not big into shock as entertainment. But more than that, I'm sorry that commercial entertainment is becoming so vulgar and also so unsubtle. I don't need to be hit over the head with my entertainment. Sorry Adam wants to continue that trend and be a part of it.
It's funny, I don't mind really vulgar punk music or stuff like that. Maybe there seems to be a point to it. I don't know why, maybe somebody can answer that for me.
Kris comes in #1 with LLWD on Rate The Music.
http://www.ratethemusic.com/index.cgi/rtm?email=&raterid=&chart=rtm_12
This song is becoming popular, and I think even its appropriateness (theme-wise) to the New Year might help it even more after the holidays. Kris was sadly underappreciated on AI, and by the media since AI, so I do honestly believe he's being marketed as a new artist who's had some hype but not too much.
But the single (which has sold over 150,000 copies, acc. to somebody on TWoP) isn't showing signs of slowing down yet, and I think the quality of the CD will help sell it the CD over time.
Record companies have eyes and ears the same as we do, and they've been watching Kris since he was on AI. They know they have an artist, not a hack or a flash in the pan. They also see he can sell a single and make it grow. I think, in general, record companies hold on to good artists, they know the payoff is long-term and there's a certain amount of pride and prestige involved in having someone on board who can actually perform well live. And who doesn't have to be propped up, doesn't need to be managed 24/7. etc. And who one day may win awards and bring respect to the label.
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I love these boys:
From Kris:
LOL and what?
From David:
I saw (without the sound) the new AI promo that aired last night and I'd totally be lying if I said I wasn't excited about a new season. LOL.
From Kris:
LOL and what?
From David:
I saw (without the sound) the new AI promo that aired last night and I'd totally be lying if I said I wasn't excited about a new season. LOL.
Kris falls just short of the top 10, at number 11 with 80,000 copies sold. Not going to lie, I'm a bit disappointed. The good news is LLWD gained 67% in sales and sold 35,000 copies this week.
Anyway, it is what it is. I can't do anything about it, so I'll just enjoy his music and that's it.
Anyway, it is what it is. I can't do anything about it, so I'll just enjoy his music and that's it.
I love Slezak too.
Kris Allen: How to explain the 'American Idol' champ's disappointing chart performance? | EW.com
He both manages to reassure me and to express really well what I'm feeling and the questions that I have.
David Cook still debuted at #3 last year (I believe) with more than 250,000 copies sold. So, yeah, it's not exactly the same situation either, whatever the JIVE representative says.
Kris Allen: How to explain the 'American Idol' champ's disappointing chart performance? | EW.com
He both manages to reassure me and to express really well what I'm feeling and the questions that I have.
David Cook still debuted at #3 last year (I believe) with more than 250,000 copies sold. So, yeah, it's not exactly the same situation either, whatever the JIVE representative says.
I said they (Jive) believe in him and it seems I'm right. I don't mean in some idealistic way. "150 percent believe in" is a strong statement. I'm sure Jive has sophisticated marketing strategies, and they seem to be working out to their satisfaction. Can't a record sell steadily over time and still do well?
My God, I hate this Idol crap. Every artist is different. Every record performs in a different way. Why does Kris have to fit a cookie-cutter Idol mold? Frankly if his label is satisfied, and behind him, and thinks he's doing well, then that's really all I need at this point. What other people think, I couldn't care less.
My God, I hate this Idol crap. Every artist is different. Every record performs in a different way. Why does Kris have to fit a cookie-cutter Idol mold? Frankly if his label is satisfied, and behind him, and thinks he's doing well, then that's really all I need at this point. What other people think, I couldn't care less.
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Because he won AI? Whether we want it or not, he'll be associated with American Idol for a long long long time. I don't think it's actually a detail.
I hate this Idol crap too, for the record. And yes, a record can sell steadily over time and still do well. A record can also start strong but fizzle out very fast (see Hicks, Taylor) but I understand the fuss and the disappointment over the first week sales.
Well, the sales were disappointing for sure, but for me I never really expected huge sales of the album opening day (Hoped for, yes. Expected, no). I want Kris to do well, and the radio and upcoming promo is going to help.
The thing for me is that Kris sort of disappeared in the media firestorm that Adam created after Idol. He vanished from view without a coronation song on the radio to prolong his exposure. And then with Kris writing most of the CD and them not talking about the songs on the CD during the writing process, there was so little buzz. Kris really is starting from a new artist position rather than the Idol stepping stone, although he's had some great promotional opportunities that other new artists just don't get. I think his album has potential to do really well. Just not this week.. :-?
Really glad about the single sales though, + 67% is a great sign.
Anyway.. Krim show outtakes.. seriously funny. If only they had shown this side of Kris on the show ..but, I don't know, maybe he wasn't ready to do that at the time either. Jim and Kris have great chemistry... if they did a show, I would totally watch it. Maybe a Christmas special??? Kris talking about his mom tweeting Jim was gold.
oh! and Adam is going to be interviewed on CHUM FM after 6.. (who still won't play LLWD!! grr!)
The thing for me is that Kris sort of disappeared in the media firestorm that Adam created after Idol. He vanished from view without a coronation song on the radio to prolong his exposure. And then with Kris writing most of the CD and them not talking about the songs on the CD during the writing process, there was so little buzz. Kris really is starting from a new artist position rather than the Idol stepping stone, although he's had some great promotional opportunities that other new artists just don't get. I think his album has potential to do really well. Just not this week.. :-?
Really glad about the single sales though, + 67% is a great sign.
Anyway.. Krim show outtakes.. seriously funny. If only they had shown this side of Kris on the show ..but, I don't know, maybe he wasn't ready to do that at the time either. Jim and Kris have great chemistry... if they did a show, I would totally watch it. Maybe a Christmas special??? Kris talking about his mom tweeting Jim was gold.
oh! and Adam is going to be interviewed on CHUM FM after 6.. (who still won't play LLWD!! grr!)
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Hey, he won without it.
I guess I just don't see the point. So he's not David Cook, Taylor Hicks, or Ruben Studdard. Just shoot him.
We're talking human beings. Academy Award winners are supposed to do great, right? Why does one person win an Academy Award as Best Actor and immediately become a huge star and make millions, and the next year another guy wins it and only has moderate success? And why does the guy who makes millions find himself unemployed five years later? Or why does the guy who only has moderate success at first sometimes grow into the biggest star in the world?
There's no such thing as "because he won American Idol he must do this, sell this amount, etc." If all people were alike, that would make sense. Maybe Kris was not a typical winner of American Idol. Maybe his album is not a typical Idol album. Maybe his single is not a typical Idol single. (If you ask me, those are good things. So maybe an atypical Idol winner is not going to sell as much. Lots of great artists don't sell as much as mediocre ones.) Yes, he's an Idol winner, but he's still Kris. He's an individual.
If you fit him into the Idol mold in one way (record sales), then you also have to fit him into it in all other ways. He's supposed to have a craptastic Idol anthem on his CD. He's supposed to have a big voice. He's supposed to be tall.
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Kris Allen might be the most likeable American Idol winner ever « Top Idol
The best article ever. Ever.
The best article ever. Ever.
Winning hearts one by one. lol (Did you read the comments? They were mostly pretty awesome, too.)
This was a good post I read elsewhere:
The numbers are disappointing, anyway you spin it. However to say Kris is over is ridiculous. The only thing this figure really means is Kris will have to rely on longevity and sustained sales, without having the cushion of a large debut. In essence, it means he relys on radioplay, which is the #1 factor in whether or not albums continue to sell past the first 2-3 weeks. If you take Taylor as an example, he HAD the big sales to start, didn’t have the airplay, and his label still chose to let him go, probably figuring (correctly) that his appeal was very limited without an expanding audience.
So, as long as Kris continues to get airplay (and as long as that airplay continues to effect sales) he’ll be fine.
Now, whether or not he does get that airplay only time will tell, but so far he’s the most succesful Season 8 Idol on radio…
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that probably the big sales numbers for Idol winners are over for good. We won't know for a year or two, of course. Adam (not a winner, but close) is an anamoly because of the hype -- bigger hype than any Idol contestant has had in years -- and that hype has little to do with his being the Idol runner up. (If Adam's numbers really are big. They probably are, but I wonder why he is selling almost exacatly like Kris did last week on iTunes if he is so much more popular.)
There are a number of factors involved. In the old days, the only way to hear the Idol's record in your home was to go out and buy his/her record. So that's what people did. In large numbers. There was no YouTube, no streaming audio, no iTunes where you can purchase songs without purchasing the whole album, and no illegal downloads. I mainly bought Kris's CD to support him. There was no need to buy it. I can hear it all free on my computer.
Last year I walked into the record store across the street from where I live, and heard the new David Cook album playing on the sound system. There was a big poster in the front of the store of David Cook, "Your American Idol." This year the record store is gone and the store is empty. The stores around it are also gone and the buildings are deserted. I had to drive about seven miles to WalMart to buy the CD. At WalMart, the CDs used to be in the front of the department. Now I had to ask a clerk where the CDs were. They were in a back area. There was no poster announcing Kris Allen, Your American Idol. For whatever reason.
Last year I saw Archie perform live on MTV's TRL, where music videos and live acts were seen every day by kids watching MTV after school. A year later, the show, an institution for years, is off the air.
Anyhow, things can and do change this much in only eight years -- even in a year. I don't think people are going to buy the Idol winner's CD in huge numbers ever again, really. The winners are going to enter the marketplace as new artists who get a boost from Idol but not like before.
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I think we have a misunderstanding. I don't care that Kris is an atypical Idol. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. I like him, that's all that matters to me. I don't want to fit him with all the other Idols. I know that he's an individual. I'm just saying that I believe that it does matter that he's an Idol winner in the way Kris is being perceived in the media and by a lot of people. Not necessarily by me. He IS an Idol winner, so he is going to get compared to the others, that is inevitable.
Not everything I say is an attack against Kris. I'm still allowed to state my opinion right? You know I love him. And I love David Cook, who I don't think is a cookie-cutter Idol either or a typical Idol winner. And yes, sometimes I do love one more than the other, it changes all the time. And yes, I'm going to compare the two. I'm not a random poster of MJ's blog who's out to get Kris. I want him to do well. And if I'm disappointed, I'd like to believe that I can say so and say why in here without feeling like I shouldn't be allowed to say it.
Sorry, I had to get that out.
I agree, it does matter. I didn't mean to give the impression I think it has no impact. On the other hand, there's nothing any of us can do about that, including him, so we have to say "So what?" He just has to work past it. He wasn't meant to ride that particular rainbow. I'm sure plenty of people said the same thing about Jordin, her year, don't you think? Her numbers were so much lower than all the winners before her. So what? Did it stop her? She did her thing, Jive did their thing. She's done well, she's respected, she's okay. That's all I'm saying about Kris.
I didn't think you were attacking Kris. I don't care if you compare Kris and David. I'm always cool with all your opinions.
Well I'm sorry you're disappointed. But I guess it just sounded to me like Kris needed to meet some sales figure and if he didn't he's a failure. I guess that just isn't how I see it. I'm perfectly happy with his being #11 out of 200 artists. I can't speak for the media, I don't care about them right now. The sales figures are out, next week is the first week of the rest of his career.
But I don't think we are in any disagreement. I was trying to be positive. I feel pretty positive. I just don't feel like it does any good for me, personally, to obsess about Kris's numbers. It is what it is. But you have a right to say whatever you want. Hope there are no hard feelings.
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No hard feelings, ross, of course not. I just felt like I wasn't free to say what I felt without being told that I was wrong to think like that. Maybe you're able to forget about the media and all that, but I'm not. I usually can for random things, but sales numbers are too important, I cannot not care about that. And I never said that Kris was a failure. Some might say it and probably did already. I never did. I'm not obsessing about the numbers either, I just expressed my disappointment, that's all. I'm not happy about him being #11. But like you said, nothing's over only because of that. And I didn't want to imply that either. I guess I just wished for better, even if I didn't really expect it.
Me either and Me too!!
Anyway, I don't think I can tell you what any other artist I like sold in their first week of album release. LOL Or really any of their sales data. I did want better sales for Kris too.. but if it's not to be, it's not to be.
and I know he's not really your thing.. but if you want Jason Castro's single
Let's Fall in Love -- it's available for free from Coke. Here
http://www.myspace.com/formula-for-happiness
:grommit:
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LOL. Me either. And that's actually the sad part about Idol. It makes you care enough to care about those things. I wish I didn't. It would be simpler!
No kidding, eh? lol And it's starting again.... ARGH
Jacob Interview with Chart Magazine
http://www.chartattack.com/news/77178/hedley-wrote-45-songs-for-new-album-some-of-them-sucked
(does he have a baby?? and is he still married?? Mainly the baby...? I don't remember that being mentioned before)
Jacob Interview with Chart Magazine
http://www.chartattack.com/news/77178/hedley-wrote-45-songs-for-new-album-some-of-them-sucked
(does he have a baby?? and is he still married?? Mainly the baby...? I don't remember that being mentioned before)
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I really like that single. I like it so much I may have to start liking Jason more.
I think I feel the same way as missaddicted about his voice. I think she described it before as grating. But the song is easy to like. Anyhow, he's playing a small club here in January, I think it is. The 939 Club, a venue at the Berklee College of Music where they host both student and outside talent. So I may go to that.
Jacob has a baby? I knew he had a dog.
He's probably still married, just separated? Jacob has always done well in keeping his private life fairly private. I think that has to do with Canada. In the US there is no way people wouldn't know these basic facts about him if he was a pop star. The funny thing is that it probably isn't that hard to find out these simple things. The Canadian press just doesn't roll that way. Respecting people's privacy? What the hell is that all about?
Now that the record's out, you can stroll down to Wal-Mart and pick one up for your kid sister ("It's a Christmas gift, I swear!"). The frontman isn't worried about how many copies the disc will sell, as he prefers to let nature take its course.
"After immersing yourself in a record, you try to take a nap and avoid it for awhile," he says. "I'm really happy with it. We never set out with a certain goal in mind. It'd be great to write a rock opera and have the foresight of Nostradamus, but we don't."
I wish I could see them touring with Faber Drive. That would be epic for me. How come I'm not in Canada? :canada:
I guess the interviewer was implying that in Canada it's awkward/embarrassing to be an adult who's a Hedley fan. ("It's a Christmas gift, I swear!". ) Is it really that bad?
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"Adam and his band sound fantastic!" -- mj, on her blog, today.
Has there been any of that kind of squeeing from her about Kris and band? Just curious. (By the way, question: If you were a musician, which band would you rather be in, Adam's, or Kris's?)
Howard Cohen, Miami Herald critic and Adamtard, wrote the following slapdown. I like it a lot. (Sorry, the gloves are off. Adam is seriously annoying me now.)
Idol Watch | Adam Lambert's defense of performance holds no water
Of course H. Cohen will probably love the CD. Which is his right under the Constitution of the United States. But until then...heh.
I have to say, I find the other mj's blog ("Idol Gossip"), the alternate universe of Idoldom, to be very funny at times. That's where I found this Cohen thing.
There's some funny stuff there about the Adam debacle/excellent-promotional-move- that-will-sell-a-gazillion-albums.
http://mjsbigidolblog.com/
Well, it's Thanksgiving, I'm watching the Macy's parade, and I should be getting ready to go to my cousin's house. Buh-bye for now.
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Hope you have a good Thanksgiving Ross!
I think we probably just don't care... lol These Entertainment shows really create their own news and drama. For instance the Adam thing. Like okay, he was risque on the AMA,and offended people. but now the story is that he was banned from GMA, and CBS blurred his photo. It's sort of like two networks decided that he was good press so they decided to stick their toes into the story with him.
And CTV is down with that, they had him on CHUM for an interview and are premiering his video on MOD (same company), have to say though Devon was really lukewarm on Adam, and didn't think he was at all shocking and the MOD audience was really kinda meh over the whole issue. They played the video and then didn't say another word about it.
So yeah, I can't see anyone at Etalk chasing down Hedley to find out if Jacob is married or not, because they know the answer already.
Probably just as much as the other Idol folk. The Idol peeps will never get the music snobs on board. But, that's okay. There are a lot people who just like music no matter where it comes from.
I didn't even know there was another MJ's blog, lol.
The Howard Cohen article is interesting. After his venom when Kris won -- and then the favourable review of Kris's album.. I'm all confused. lol.
I think we probably just don't care... lol These Entertainment shows really create their own news and drama. For instance the Adam thing. Like okay, he was risque on the AMA,and offended people. but now the story is that he was banned from GMA, and CBS blurred his photo. It's sort of like two networks decided that he was good press so they decided to stick their toes into the story with him.
And CTV is down with that, they had him on CHUM for an interview and are premiering his video on MOD (same company), have to say though Devon was really lukewarm on Adam, and didn't think he was at all shocking and the MOD audience was really kinda meh over the whole issue. They played the video and then didn't say another word about it.
So yeah, I can't see anyone at Etalk chasing down Hedley to find out if Jacob is married or not, because they know the answer already.
Probably just as much as the other Idol folk. The Idol peeps will never get the music snobs on board. But, that's okay. There are a lot people who just like music no matter where it comes from.
I didn't even know there was another MJ's blog, lol.
The Howard Cohen article is interesting. After his venom when Kris won -- and then the favourable review of Kris's album.. I'm all confused. lol.