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[SleepinIn]

Did you contact itunes re the pass? That's awful.. itunes with the non-loading passes, and unnamed songs.

Here's a link to the two songs they did. LLWD and CSA.
Kris Allen 'Can't Stay Away' - ABC News

I set my tape at 1:30 in the morning.. and taped the tv listings channel.. FAIL. Luckily, I was watching, they had a partial clip of the guys playing LLWD which must have been their soundcheck, then they talked to Kris and they played LLWD in full. The web had CSA, I don't think they showed that on air.

 

[missaddicted]

Thanks for the video! OK, so I didn't miss anything I guess, because when my DVR finally rebooted Kris was there finishing a song, so it must have been the soundcheck snippet. I saw them talk to Kris and LLWD in full.

I did write to iTunes. I was supposed to receive a confirmation that I had sent a request in my e-mails... but didn't receive anything. And I don't see the pass anywhere in the store, except that they sell a "deluxe" version of the CD with all the content from the pass (I think). I hope this has nothing to do with me making the pre-order than cancelling it. Still, I thought the pass was something completely different... and I already paid for it, I hadn't paid for the pre-order.

 

[SleepinIn]

Oh, I wonder.. maybe you're right and canceling the pre-order affected your pass? I hope you get it sorted out - soon. Itunes is ridiculous.

 

[ross 1]

I saw Kris on GMA. He seemed really happy. The song sounded great, the audience response was also great!

You guys are right about a certain blogger. Even though Kris's album is #1 on iTunes (pop) [YAY] and #4 on iTunes (overall) [SQUEE], there was none of that enthused reaction from her you'd see if this was Adam. Not even a "congratulations, Kris." Just a report of the facts, more like.

Anyway, the hell with it! These are great numbers for Kris, and considering there are also Amazon pre-orders as well as record-store/Walmart and other sales, he's on his way. Go, Kris!!!

 

[SleepinIn]

Yeah, I was happy too!! I don't even (really) care about the numbers - although it is nice to see him up high in the itunes charts - ultimately I just want to listen to his music. I don't usually obsess over charting or radio play... only for Idol... and really only Kris - lmao. (or you know.. INXS)

Although I did also buy Hedley's CD on itunes too. Shelter is awesome! Haven't listened to the rest - still in Kris Squee mode. L
ETA: Listened to more Hedley - surprisingly, not at all autotune-y I think Cha-ching, and Don't Talk to Strangers might be it for the dancy type tracks - lots of piano and guitar

 

[missaddicted]

BWAH! Comedy gold:

David Cook and his band playing around with "My Heart Will Go On" last night:

YouTube - Andy Skib playing Celine Dion Orillia 11 16 09

David and his massive skull:

YouTube - David Cook Massive Skull Banter Casino Rama 11 16 09

Still haven't had any news from iTunes. I'm actually listening to Adam's album stream right now, and I want to listen to John Mayer's album again on Popeater. If I still don't have any news after that, I'm buying Kris's album again. I want it.

 

[Liberalman]

Did they learn how to sing yet

 

[missaddicted]

Wow, Kris admitted to MTV that he didn't like the album version of Heartless? Makes me feel almost guilty that I really like it. You know I love his honesty, but I think sometimes, saying less might be to his advantage, especially in these album promotional stages. I'm pretty sure admitting you don't like a song from your album is not a good way to do promotion. Yes, I would've liked him to get his way and that everything would have been to his liking, but still.

ETA: Sorta just got through Adam's album stream. I started listening and I thought that it was better than I expected, but it went downhill pretty fast. I liked Music Again on the first listen but after listening to the rest of the album, I came back to it and I was already tired of the sound. The only one I kinda like is Whataya, but still, I don't think I like it enough to buy it. Well, I gave it a shot.

 

[SleepinIn]

Did they learn how to sing yet

Yep, they've mastered that one. Tomorrow the world!
*cue diabolical music*

I haven't listened to Adam's album yet - still in Kris/Hedley mode. I think I was listening to interviews with them both simultaneously, my head might explode.

Kris tweeted for people to vote for Cale for Bachelor on the Year.. and gave the wrong link. He's awful at promotion. LOL This is a contest I can really enjoy.

Bachelor Wars

I agree with you missaddicted about saying he didn't like that version of Heartless. Sometimes, you don't want to be that honest because it gets misconstrued. The thing for me though, is ultimately it doesn't matter, because I liked it, and Kris is never going to have to sing it that way ever again anyway. I can't see them ever playing it like that, when they can go accoustic or mash-up.

Did you watch the Alexa Chung performance? It got a big messy in the middle, but I really liked the way they were grooving together. I think they'll be really good together as a band.

and Kris has playlists
Playlist | Kris Allen Official’s Profile

ETA: David and his skull, lol

 

[missaddicted]

The thing for me though, is ultimately it doesn't matter, because I liked it, and Kris is never going to have to sing it that way ever again anyway. I can't see them ever playing it like that, when they can go accoustic or mash-up.

Good point. I love his version of Heartless... whatever version it is, LOL!

Yeah, I watched the Alexa Chung performance and I had the same thoughts as you. A bit messy, but exciting at the same time!

Cool! Playlists! I'll have to take a listen, though I already love several of the songs he mentionned!

ETA: If I had Kris's album, I probably wouldn't have found the time to listen to Adam's album... but I don't. I listened to the snippets from Hedley's album on iTunes (yes, I did!), but yeah, I don't think it's for me.

 

[ross 1]

Props to missaddicted to listening to Hedley snippets!

 

[ross 1]

There must be something wrong with my ears. MJ said the same thing about the Alexa Chung performance -- she said 3/4 of the way through things got messy.
You mean the part where they were jamming? It sounded to me like jamming.

I kind of have to disagree about Kris and Heartless. On the one hand, yeah, I agree, to some extent, he didn't necessarily have to say it. He doesn't have to be controversial as he's trying to sell the album.

I liked how he said, at the end, "I'm not afraid." And I liked how he was honest about it. I think it's way more important for him to be genuine at this point, about the music he wants to do and the music he doesn't want to do. People are going to buy or not buy the artist, over the long term, as an artist. Heartless is not so important. It's more important that people can trust Kris to give them who he is.

I think people will respect him for needing to do music he believes in and that represents 'who he is as an artist.' -- and respect his courage in saying this (Heartless) isn't who he is or what he wants to do.

 

[missaddicted]

Yeah, they sounded like they were jamming. It was just more messy than when they did it on GMA. I don't know what they did differently. But it was good messy, I didn't mind it like MJ did.

ETA:

I liked how he said, at the end, "I'm not afraid." And I liked how he was honest about it. I think it's way more important for him to be genuine at this point, about the music he wants to do and the music he doesn't want to do. People are going to buy or not buy the artist, over the long term, as an artist. Heartless is not so important. It's more important that people can trust Kris to give them who he is. I think people will respect his need to be making good music, and his saying this isn't who he is.

That's a good point. I agree that over the long term, what he said about Heartless doesn't matter. I just think it's still a bit early to think about the long term. Not that he (or we) shouldn't think about it at all. I'm sure that he wishes for a long term career and I certainly wish that for him also. I just think everything in pop culture today is such about the short term. Kris has to sell his album right now, this is truly what counts the most at this point, I believe. I love that he has integrity, but maybe at this stage, he shouldn't say 100% of what he would like to say.

 

[ross 1]

Yeah, they sounded like they were jamming. It was just more messy than when they did it on GMA. I don't know what they did differently. But it was good messy, I didn't mind it like MJ did.

Exactly! This is actually what I liked about it. After I read what mj wrote, I was expecting some sudden moment when everything goes wrong. There was nothing like that. I actually like it a little better than GMA.

 

[missaddicted]

I edited my post up there to respond to your previous post.

I'm this close to buying the album again...

 

[ross 1]

PS -- Why doesn't MTV post whole interviews? There are these really short snippets every time.

I think Kris mainly wanted to let people know this wasn't the version of Heartless he wanted on the album. It probably was a heartbreaker for him. He does it so well all the time, just by himself. And if he could have arranged it himself for the album, I'm sure it would have been fantastic. For all I know he may have, and got shot down.

He did say his brother loves it, and he said "Good, good, good," when Jim said a lot of people love it. I don't think he was saying he hates it. He was saying this was the biggest defeat he had on the album in terms of what he wanted vs. what TPTB wanted. But I don't think he was disowning it. He's just dissatisfied with it personally.

PS -- Sometimes stirring things up a little is good marketing strategy. Not saying that this was actually intended as marketing strategy. But it could work out for the better. People will probably buy Heartless just to hear what he objected to. And I wouldn't be surprised if down the line he gets to record it again his way.

 

[ross 1]

Oh, I forgot. I went out at lunchtime to Newbury Comics and bought the album.

 

[SleepinIn]

I don't know why MTV does this in chunks, but Jim tweeted that 5 more chunks were coming tonight. (yay!) with more for later.

He was saying this was the biggest defeat he had on the album in terms of what he wanted vs. what TPTB wanted. But I don't think he was disowning it. He's just dissatisfied with it personally.

Yeah that's how I took it too ross. More dissatifcation than active dislike.

Another Fox interview popped up, the interviewer is a complete idiot though. She even says she wants Kris to be more confident and talks to him like he was a toddler.. nice. Bet Kris just loved that one.
YouTube - Kris Allen's Talking About His CD

Whoop, whoop! Ross has the album! Missaddicted did you ever get a reply from itunes?

 

[ross 1]

Another Fox interview popped up, the interviewer is a complete idiot though. She even says she wants Kris to be more confident and talks to him like he was a toddler.. nice. Bet Kris just loved that one.

Spare me! Do I have to listen to that one?

I just posted something *elsewhere* that sums up my feelings about Heartless, I think. This was his one chance for a recording of this song that meant so much. And this compromise (or whatever it is) is what he had to do. I think I understand how he feels. Heartless originally was all about what Kris could do with a song to make it his own. It got so much attention. And then when he finally got to do a record of "his" version of Heartless, it's not his version at all. It's someone else's.

So it's Kanye's song with Salaam Remi's arrangement. Basically, all Kris is doing is singing it. And probably not even doing that the way he wanted to, since it starts out different, etc. Yeah, he should have gotten to do his version of Heartless, on his album. Otherwise, it's pointless to do it at all.

 

[missaddicted]

Yay for getting the album at lunchtime, ross!

He was saying this was the biggest defeat he had on the album in terms of what he wanted vs. what TPTB wanted. But I don't think he was disowning it. He's just dissatisfied with it personally.

Oh, I definitely didn't mean to imply that he was disowning it either. And I didn't mean to start a big debate either! I guess I'm just worried about the media taking what he has to say and making it sound like he was ungrateful or something. Which wouldn't surprised me. I think that explains my knee-jerk reaction to his comment.

I never got a reply from iTunes. I never even got the confirmation that they received my comment and I was supposed to receive that 15 minutes after I sent it. I'll just buy it again. I was ready to do that last week, why not now?

I'm listening to Send Me All Your Angels right now. I think it's pretty easy to tell that it's a Daughtry co-write. Not that it's a bad thing, but I understand why the two bonus tracks are indeed bonus tracks. Any of you got that song?