Canada should join the ballistic missile defence program

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Roméo Dallaire says Canadians can’t just assume the United States will shoot down a missile heading toward Canada, and that it is time for this country to finally embrace continental missile defence.

The U.S. invited Canada to join its continental missile-shield system more than a decade ago, but then-prime minister Paul Martin opted against it in 2005 following an extremely divisive national debate.

Since then, Canada has sat on the sidelines as the U.S. has spent more than $100 billion building a series of land- and sea-based interceptors that could stop the type of limited attack North Korea might launch

Ballistic missile defence has also been adopted by NATO allies in Europe and those in the Asia-Pacific region such as Australia and South Korea, leaving Canada as an outlier.

But any decision on whether to shoot down such a threat would rest solely with U.S. officials, who Dallaire noted have no legal obligation to react if the missile is heading toward Canada.

Joining ballistic missile defence would not only create that obligation, Dallaire said, but also act as a deterrent should North Korea or any other country use Canada as a “proxy target” for the U.S.

“Feeling that (the U.S.) would respond is quite different than having it somewhere on paper and being able to hold them accountable to respond should Canada be targeted,” Dallaire said.

Dallaire acknowledged having his own doubts about missile defence when the issue was first raised, but he said the technology has improved significantly.

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[Tecumsehsbones]

Who would waste a missile on Canada?

 

[10larry]

Bomarc revisited. The u.s. liberally spreads missle defense sytems, war toys and troops all over eastern eu to contain the ghost of the ussr n' a token amount in SK and japan to get attention in NK. We're a stones throw from the ghost so norad a joint u.s. canuck shield stands guard plus trudough of course has a robust defense plan at the ready. Nothing to worry about the u.s. military complex prefer fireworks well beyond NA.

 

[Twin_Moose]

I think like NORAD a shared cost agreement should be set up for missile defense and may well be under NORAD with the installations set up in Alaska. It can be incorporated into our shortfall of NATO spending which we should be paying our agreed upon share.

 

[B00Mer]

Who would waste a missile on Canada?

North Korea, Trump when Trudeau out smarts him on NAFTA. :lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

Canada should buy Russian S-400 anti balistic missile system which would ensure Canada is not struck by American missiles.

 

[Danbones]

We could buy peace
but nobody makes it any more

 

[Johnnny]

Who would waste a missile on Canada?

Exactly.

But hear me out and don't shoot down this idea.

We need to invent a system that shoots down the shot down missles that the States shoot down over Canada.

 

[darkbeaver]

This war between Canada and the USA is going to get hot fast, we should carpet bomb them first.

 

[White_Unifier]

Who would waste a missile on Canada?

Who says it needs to be intentional. Could a lower-tech missile aimed at Seattle not stray towards Vancouver?

 

[darkbeaver]

Americans in Canada should be rounded up and put in camps.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Americans in Canada should be rounded up and put in camps.

With pony rides and canoeing.

 

[darkbeaver]

Of course and rubber barbed wire only.

 

[MHz]

Might I suggest we make Baffin Island bristle with our own brand. That way we know they will exit the barrel when prompted. Devon Island is already void of life so a target is available during demonstrations. Can-du-it hypersonic using ice as the fuel once the 12v power supply splits it into hho gas. Elementary really.

 

[darkbeaver]

Send me the specs perhaps I can build a prototype in the back yard.

 

[MHz]

Of course and rubber barbed wire only.

Got any left?? Sounds like it is just what I need to finish off my Craig's list room for entertaining my new friends. That is all they seem to be able to chat about really. I'm going to have to record my boarder who suffers from dementia. Way, way, better than creaky hinges lp I found at a garage sale rather than in any private collection. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[darkbeaver]

Nothing left in stock at this time only the right left. Several colours though.

 

[MHz]

Send me the specs perhaps I can build a prototype in the back yard.

Goes really, really fast and hits what it's aimed at 98% of the time, no matter what type of aiming system. The other 2% is when they change targets to the launch-site of anybody that shoots at them. . . . . . that's about it. 60 days R&D as usual in that the shelf that holds it needs to be built first?
Sounds like you and the homesteaders out here would git alone just fine. Maybe send us a rail-car of brown sugar as a 'gift'. You like your drinks to mesh with a Porch fuel system or Toro garden tractor w/implements of mass construction. Measured jiggers even. Yet for the camera they roll out some barn-burner that leaves a smoke trail all the way across the field, wtf?? Anyway, the silver lining is at least it's a straight line.

Ever try drinking and the forest in the same place and time. Put the observant guy in the front of the canoe when going down fast flowing creeks. One would think you shouldn't even have to mention shit like that but not every in-law (or visitor) is full of the smarts.

Nothing left in stock at this time only the right left. Several colors though.

Color choice is nice as long as it's black. The kind of black that avoids creating holes in the background noise from the big-bank based tracking. Are the hyper velocity engines throttled at the intake opening or pressure at the exhaust nozzle(s). Having 4 all running at 1/4 throttle threw me until it showed itself to be a much better steering system than 'wings' when going above mach5.

Why do I get the feeling somebody is ****ing around with the boiling point of something flammable??

Perhaps charging up the northern lights with some high amps will just emp/ magnetize any incoming so it crashes at the magnetic north pole. Make it a junk yard for space junk also for when we aren't embroiled in some horrific war somewhere on the planet.
We will need 30M migrants in 5 years to have the manpower to do any of that, I thought that should be mentioned.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Sounds like a great deal for the US defence industry. The likelihood that N.Korea would bother with Canada is about zero. For seven decades the US has been pressuring Canada to invest in unnecessary armaments and unfortunately a number of Canadian governments bought into that nonsense.

 

[spaminator]

U.S. may not defend Canada from ballistic missile attack: General
Lee Berthiaume, THE CANADIAN PRESS
First posted: Friday, September 15, 2017 06:51 AM EDT | Updated: Friday, September 15, 2017 06:54 AM EDT
OTTAWA — Current U.S. policy directs the American military not to defend Canada if it is targeted in a ballistic missile attack, says the top Canadian officer at the North American Aerospace Defence Command.
“We’re being told in Colorado Springs that the extant U.S. policy is not to defend Canada,” said Lt.-Gen. Pierre St-Amand, deputy commander of Colorado-based Norad.
“That is the policy that’s stated to us. So that’s the fact that I can bring to the table.”
St-Amand delivered that revelation Thursday during an appearance before the House of Commons defence committee, which is studying the extent to which Canada is ready for an attack by North Korea.
The study comes after several provocative nuclear and ballistic missile tests by North Korea, which have stoked fears Canada could end up in the middle of a confrontation between the U.S. and the so-called hermit kingdom.
The latest test occurred on Friday, when North Korea fired an intermediate-range missile over Japan into the northern Pacific Ocean. South Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff said the missile travelled about 3,700 kilometres and reached a maximum height of 770 kilometres.
Those tests have also resurrected questions over whether Canada should join the U.S. ballistic missile defence shield, which it famously opted out of in 2005 following a divisive national debate.
St-Amand said Canadian and U.S. military personnel at Norad headquarters in Colorado Springs, Colo., work side-by-side detecting potential airborne threats to North America.
But Canada would have no role in deciding what to do if North Korea or any other country fired a missile at North America, he said.
Canadian military personnel would instead be forced to sit on the sidelines and watch as U.S. officials decided how to act.
The general did acknowledge that U.S. officials could ultimately decide to intervene if a missile was heading toward Canada, but that the decision would likely be made in “the heat of the moment.”
St-Amand’s comments appeared to confirm the worst fears of many people who believe it is time for Canada to join the U.S. ballistic missile defence shield.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau seemed to all but close the door on joining ballistic missile defence last month when he said Canada’s position is “not going to be changed any time soon.”
But that has not stopped various defence experts, retired military personnel and even some Liberal MPs from calling for Canada to embrace the missile shield to ensure the country’s protection.
Earlier in the day, officials from Global Affairs Canada and National Defence warned the committee that it was likely only a matter of time before North Korea would be able to launch an attack on North America.
But they also said that based on recent contacts with Pyongyang, the North Koreans do not see Canada as an enemy, but rather as a potential friend that has the ear of the U.S.
Those contacts include a meeting between Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland and her North Korean counterpart in August.
“There has been no direct threat to Canada,” said Mark Gwozdecky, assistant deputy minister of international security at Global Affairs Canada.
“On the contrary, in recent contacts with the North Korean government ... the indications were that they perceived Canada as a peaceful and indeed a friendly country.”
Pyongyang’s primary goal is self-preservation, the officials said, and it understands the consequences of a war with the United States or any other country.
Yet the officials also said the risks of a miscalculation are high, and the Liberal government believes Canada has an important role in helping find a peaceful solution to the situation.
That includes talks, but also trying to exert more pressure on the North Korean government — either through diplomatic isolation or economic sanctions — to give up its nuclear weapons.
“We must convince Pyongyang that it can achieve its goals through peaceful diplomatic means,” Gwozdecky said.
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