Canada is too humanitarian

[nelk]

Canada too humanitarian?

I don't know how many soon to be or allready pensioner are out there.

If someone has to rely on CPP, OAS even with supplemental GIS,
the Canadian "Humanity' will come down like a big mallet!

Petfood dinner, Food banks, Soup kitchens and Frenchy's clothing will become very familiar.

And this is not because they didnt work.

Highly praised Call centre jobs (here in the Maritimes)will get you 8 to 11 bucks per hour. Yes, you even have to pay taxes on those incomes!

Try to make a living with that; there is nothing left to build up RRSP
or other equity.
And if you think only "the unskilled " have to take these jobs , check out the wide variety of educational backgrounds among those.

Of course these are only two of the many appalling human facets of a country so incrediably rich in resources and wealth.

Maybe start some in depth discussion about CPP where everyone is obliged to contribute but payouts are less than if someone would
accumulate his or her fund hidden under the mattress.

 

[TenPenny]

Canada is way too humanitarian. We always think that we need to come to the rescue when some country is in trouble. But when Canadians need help, we get the finger.

The government is debating whether or not we should help the people of Darfur. I don't think we should help these people. Its the UN's responsibility.

Same thing with Afghanistan. We should immediately pull our troops out. The only reason Canada wants to keep our troops there is so we can be friends with the U.S. Well guess what?

SCREW THE AMERICANS!!!!!

I think its about time we start helping the Canadian people before we start helping everyone else.

And just for the record everyone, I feel bad for these people. But its not our responsibility.

You are stunningly ignorant. It's the UN's job to go into Darfur? Okay, so who is the UN? Everybody. Including us.

Did you read Romeo Dallaire's book "Shake Hands with the Devil?" If not, go away until you read it. I believe that all members of the federal gov't should be forced to read this, and if you make any comment about the UN, peacekeeping, peace making, and Africa, without having read it, I consider your opinion worthless.

In fact, I would suggest that every single Canadian citizen be required to read it. Go ahead, try to read it without crying.

If any of you have not read it, stop what you are doing RIGHT NOW, and go get it. You are not qualified to speak about this topic unless you've read it.

 

[I think not]

Thanks for that tip, it's on my wish list for July.

 

[tracy]

The UN is actually having to cut the rations it gives to Darfur's refugees because donor countries have cut back their donations so much this year. Canada was giving 1/4 of the money they gave last year.

 

[I think not]

While I agree with JonB2004 general sentiment of looking after your own backyard first, I would also say there is no such thing as being too humanitarian. As long as the money is being spent where it should be, then you have nothing to be concerned with. Look at it as a long term investment (the cold hearted version).

 

[JonB2004]

RE: Canada is too humanit

I think not, how is it an investment to give money to another country?

It isn't benefiting anyone in Canada.

 

[LittleRunningGag]

Re: RE: Canada is too humanit

We are way too humanitarian, and just because we have something doesn't oblige us to give it away. Let's get our own homeless off of the streets and make jobs for Newfys and other Maritimers before we try and reconstruct somebody else. Foreign Aid is NOT why I pay GST.

Let's take care of our own first, before we try and take on the world.

Like I said, there are very few Canadians, even the ones on the streets, that fall into the same poverty category as many of the people in Africa.

Being lucky enough to be born in Canada doesn't automatically make you more deserving than someone born somewhere else. At least those in Canada have the opportunity to lift themselves up. Many of those in the countries we are refering to, do not have that opportunity.

 

[godsend]

Canada is way too humanitarian. We always think that we need to come to the rescue when some country is in trouble. But when Canadians need help, we get the finger.

The government is debating whether or not we should help the people of Darfur. I don't think we should help these people. Its the UN's responsibility.

Same thing with Afghanistan. We should immediately pull our troops out. The only reason Canada wants to keep our troops there is so we can be friends with the U.S. Well guess what?

SCREW THE AMERICANS!!!!!

I think its about time we start helping the Canadian people before we start helping everyone else.

And just for the record everyone, I feel bad for these people. But its not our responsibility.

You are stunningly ignorant. It's the UN's job to go into Darfur? Okay, so who is the UN? Everybody. Including us.

Did you read Romeo Dallaire's book "Shake Hands with the Devil?" If not, go away until you read it. I believe that all members of the federal gov't should be forced to read this, and if you make any comment about the UN, peacekeeping, peace making, and Africa, without having read it, I consider your opinion worthless.

In fact, I would suggest that every single Canadian citizen be required to read it. Go ahead, try to read it without crying.

If any of you have not read it, stop what you are doing RIGHT NOW, and go get it. You are not qualified to speak about this topic unless you've read it.

Yes, I have read it! Am I qualified? >)

Jonb2004...
Have you asked yourself how Africa turned out to be like this?

First, turned to the chapter of colonial era in your history book before making simplified comments like "I don't think we should help these people. Its the UN's responsibility."

Second, focus your research to the organizations like 'The World Bank" and "IMF". To narrow down your search, a key term to look for is 'structural adjustment policy' that these organizations implement when thrid world countries default their debt.

I sincerely hope that you would come to better understanding after doing more knowledge acquiring before leaving comments that obviously wasn't matured.

cheers.

 

[Lineman]

Re: RE: Canada is too humanit

I think not, how is it an investment to give money to another country?

It isn't benefiting anyone in Canada.

You really can't see past your wallet can you! If we, the rich nations of the world, provide aid for basic infrastucture, education etc. and the country becomes stable then everyone benefits. If you ignore the problems you end up with failed states, famines, genocides, and war. So even you viewing this strictly as a tax saving should understand it.

 

[JonB2004]

RE: Canada is too humanit

I don't think its our problem. All I can give these people is my sympathy. That's all I'm offering.

 

[Jersay]

I agree with Lineman.

If we don't do something as rich nations on both fronts, because all these rich nations have enough money to do both. Build up the infranstructure, educate the people, ensure less hostility between the people, begin ensuring that poverty, and hunger and other medical diseases are being cracked at would be less money than doing nothing and keeping a few bucks in your wallet.

 

[JonB2004]

RE: Canada is too humanit

Its costing us more than a couple of bucks. Its going to cost hundreds of billions of dollars to help these countries.

Screw that!

 

[FiveParadox]

JonB2004, I wouldn't expect "hundreds of billions" of dollars to be going to these countries from Canada any time soon. Our annual budgets appropriate less than two hundred billion dollars (+CA$200 000 000 000), and foreign aid is a miniscule part of that.

 

[JonB2004]

RE: Canada is too humanit

I'm saying the whole world is going to spend that much money.

 

[Jersay]

From you personally it is a couple of bucks. So I lend you my sympathy that you have lost a few dollars to help some people who really need it.

No wait, screw you.

They deserve the few bucks that are taken from your wallet for aid. It's not like you need a happy meal any time soon.

 

[JonB2004]

RE: Canada is too humanit

I want to keep those few dollars. I like my Big Mac.

 

[FiveParadox]

Jersay[/i]]From you personally it is a couple of bucks. So I lend you my sympathy that you have lost a few dollars to help some people who really need it.

No wait, screw you.

They deserve the few bucks that are taken from your wallet for aid. It's not like you need a happy meal any time soon.

Some hon. members: Hear, hear!

JonB2004[/i]]I want to keep those few dollars. I like my Big Mac.

You have no idea how much this sentence disgusts me.

People are dying, but you need your hamburger. Wow.

 

[JonB2004]

RE: Canada is too humanit

I'm sorry what I think sickens you. But I want my tax dollars to be spend in Canada, not in Afghanistan or any other country for that matter. If they aren't going to be spent in Canada, then I want to keep them.

 

[FiveParadox]

It's not the fact that one would want money to stay in Canada that sickens me — it's the fact that there are members here who, where given the choice, would rather a child in a foreign country die than lose the amount of money needed to purchase a hamburger.

 

[JonB2004]

RE: Canada is too humanit

People are tired of our tax dollars being blown on something that isn't benefiting Canada. Its not our responsibility to help these people. I want my tax dollars to help all of the homeless people in Canada and end child poverty in Canada.

I'm not giving my money to people in other countries. All I'm willing to give is my sympathy.