Canada invests $100 million into 'historic' action plan for LGBTQ2S+ communities

[The_Foxer]

Canada invests $100 million into “historic” action plan for 2SLGBTQI+ communities

OTTAWA - The federal government unveiled what it described as a historic first on Sunday as it announced a five-year, $100 million plan to support LGBTQ, two-spirit and intersex communities across the country.

www.thestar.com

Fug. So i guess maybe we are going to an election this fall or spring. That's really not a '3 years till the election' kind of announcement. They might well be planning on backstabbing the ndp and forcing an election as soon as their numbers make it seem like they could still win and dropping the writ early.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Canada invests $100 million into “historic” action plan for 2SLGBTQI+ communities

OTTAWA - The federal government unveiled what it described as a historic first on Sunday as it announced a five-year, $100 million plan to support LGBTQ, two-spirit and intersex communities across the country.

www.thestar.com

Fug. So i guess maybe we are going to an election this fall or spring. That's really not a '3 years till the election' kind of announcement.

I’ve been thinking this myself for several months, but I’d be waiting to see if Trudeau takes his walk in the surf first…& anoints Crystia Freeland (or parachutes in Mark Carney?) to the crown….or his ego won’t allow his to do so?

Justin has been campaigning since well before Parliament was dismissed for their Summer break with our tax dollars.

They might well be planning on backstabbing the ndp and forcing an election as soon as their numbers make it seem like they could still win and dropping the writ early.

Jagmeet has to know this is coming too. How much can he blow to stall this until (in is on mind) he thinks he can choose the time…. and yet he still is going to get caught on his knees at a time not of his choosing.

I’m thinking the liberals will want to pull the plug before the conservatives get overly organized with the selection of a new leader for their party.

 

[spaminator]

Canada invests $100 million into “historic” action plan for 2SLGBTQI+ communities

OTTAWA - The federal government unveiled what it described as a historic first on Sunday as it announced a five-year, $100 million plan to support LGBTQ, two-spirit and intersex communities across the country.

www.thestar.com

Fug. So i guess maybe we are going to an election this fall or spring. That's really not a '3 years till the election' kind of announcement. They might well be planning on backstabbing the ndp and forcing an election as soon as their numbers make it seem like they could still win and dropping the writ early.

still waiting for the historic action plan for marginalized straight/white/poor folk.

 

[The_Foxer]

still waiting for the historic action plan for marginalized straight/white/poor folk.

You're not a repressed group, and you've never been marginalized or had your culture taken. Now - i've got a church burning in 20 mins and a statue to topple this afternoon, so just shut up and do what you're told or we'll cancel you!!
- Left Wing Radicals, probably

 

[pgs]

Canada invests $100 million into “historic” action plan for 2SLGBTQI+ communities

OTTAWA - The federal government unveiled what it described as a historic first on Sunday as it announced a five-year, $100 million plan to support LGBTQ, two-spirit and intersex communities across the country.

www.thestar.com

Fug. So i guess maybe we are going to an election this fall or spring. That's really not a '3 years till the election' kind of announcement. They might well be planning on backstabbing the ndp and forcing an election as soon as their numbers make it seem like they could still win and dropping the writ early.

How long before they drop the L from LGBTQ2S like they are in Britain ?

 

[The_Foxer]

I’ve been thinking this myself for several months, but I’d be waiting to see if Trudeau takes his walk in the surf first…& anoints Crystia Freeland (or parachutes in Mark Carney?) to the crown….or his ego won’t allow his to do so?

Justin has been campaigning since well before Parliament was dismissed for their Summer break with our tax dollars.

Yeah. At first i thought it was that he was facing some serious pressure from his party to step down because of his popularity numbers. He might be trying for a bump to shut up his internal critics. But - it's kind of just going on and its getting weird as eff. First off - why make an announcement like this over the summer when nobody's paying attention much to politics unless you're afraid you're short of time? And that's a big dollar promise, his cabinent and such must have been in on it.

When you add it up with his other behavior and spending an entire month in the air doing election tours it sure seems like they're headed that way. But it honestly doesn't make sense.

Maybe they're waiting to see what the numbers look like in september, but right now all the polls say that he's likely to get what he has now or worse, not much chance of doing better.

 

[petros]

Fug. So i guess maybe we are going to an election this fall or spring. That's really not a '3 years till the election' kind of announcement. They might well be planning on backstabbing the ndp and forcing an election as soon as their numbers make it seem like they could still win and dropping the writ early.

Libs can't call an ection until CPC and Green elect leaders.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

To a Yank, this is probably the most fascinating thing about your system (the other is multiple parties). Our elections are, of course, fixed. I'm sure both parties and all politicians would love the idea of being able to call a new election whenever things seem to be going well for the sitting government.

 

[The_Foxer]

Libs can't call an ection until CPC and Green elect leaders.

Well i doubt they'll give a fig about the greens. But we're only 2 weeks away from a new CPC leader, and october IS a popular time for elections But while that is possible they need an 'excuse'. One such excuse would be going back with a throne speech in Sep announcing that they are 'still committed' to the dental program but are going to need more time (say, another year) to really get it orgnaized and the plan forced on them by the ndp was just too ambitious considering the provincial consultations involved, and they KNOW the ndp will back this new timeline and understand.

That puts the ndp in a bad place - either they vote to accept the throne speech (and the new timeline), or they reject it and almost certainly trigger an election - one the voters may blame THEM rather than the libs for. And if the cpc goes for it then it's their own fault they're going before their leader is ready - they literally asked for it. And of course if they don't and prop the gov't up then there'll be all kinds of hell to pay if they're not very careful. PP's first official action is to keep the libs in power?

I would normally bet a lot of money that trudeau would not call an election this year or next under nearly any circumstances, but DAMN is he ever behaving like he wants to.

 

[The_Foxer]

To a Yank, this is probably the most fascinating thing about your system (the other is multiple parties). Our elections are, of course, fixed. I'm sure both parties and all politicians would love the idea of being able to call a new election whenever things seem to be going well for the sitting government.

It's definitely got pluses and minuses, both for the parties and the voters. And it's even more complex than many 'yanks' realize - we have a governer general and techically THEY call an election. So a gov't can dissolve parliament - only to have the GG say "nope - we'll let someone else take a crack at it". Or even just "no - get back to work and stop playing stupid games". And that's happened in our history. It's rare but under the right circumstances it happens. Also - the public has a nasty habit of punishing the hell out of parties that call 'needless' elections. Trudeau called the last one early without a good reason and was polling well into majority territory - and damn near lost and wound up with a minority no better than the one he started with.

Minority gov'ts are inherently unstable and so it's a little easier to get away with calling an election but you still have to justify it, and with the deal with the ndp he would have a difficult time making a solid case. But maybe he thinks enough people are scared of PP that he can get away with it.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

While I'm leery of giving the GG that kind of power (the Queen has dissolved Parliament in Britain as well, at least once), it's actually the same theory that we both use for high judges: life tenure and insulation from politics for a person of proven neutrality and. . . well, maybe not "wisdom," but at least patience and a sense that you don't hit the Big Red Button over small stuff. It's supposed to be a brake on the kind of mass-movement politics that gets you somebody like our ol' buddy Adolf.

Curious. . . do you know if the President in parliamentary systems that have one (e.g., France, Germany, Ireland) have the same power?

 

[Jinentonix]

To a Yank, this is probably the most fascinating thing about your system (the other is multiple parties). Our elections are, of course, fixed. I'm sure both parties and all politicians would love the idea of being able to call a new election whenever things seem to be going well for the sitting government.

Sometimes that can backfire on you real bad. Sometimes the voters can smell your opportunism and they won't like it. David Peterson tried that trick in Ontario. He formed the 1st Liberal govt in Ontario in about 40 years or so and it was an overwhelming majority. As a result he tried short-calling an election and got punted after just 3 years. Unfortunately Ontario ended up with an NDP govt which was an unmitigated disaster.
If Peterson had been patient I'm pretty sure he would have won the election had he waited. It's not like his govt was dysfunctional or incompetent.

 

[The_Foxer]

While I'm leery of giving the GG that kind of power (the Queen has dissolved Parliament in Britain as well, at least once), it's actually the same theory that we both use for high judges: life tenure and insulation from politics for a person of proven neutrality and. . . well, maybe not "wisdom," but at least patience and a sense that you don't hit the Big Red Button over small stuff. It's supposed to be a brake on the kind of mass-movement politics that gets you somebody like our ol' buddy Adolf.

Curious. . . do you know if the President in parliamentary systems that have one (e.g., France, Germany, Ireland) have the same power?

Well it's not life for the GG as a rule (tho it could be technically), they serve 5 years most of the time. But otherwise yes, neutral, wise, benevolent - I have no idea why they're not ACTUALLY running the country instead of the idiotic partisan selfserving clowns we tend to elect

As to the other countries, only commonwealth countries (or former commonwealth) would have a GG. and it doesn't really make sense for a republic like germany . They've got that whole 'Chancellor- president" thing going on where the president is sort of kind of like a GG for cerimonial stuff but the Chancellor is actually the head of state and is elected. I'm not sure i can think of any other models that have a similar position. I mean - they don't DO anything really, other than to act as a circuit breaker for democracy to prevent abuse and keep the party system honest. They're only important once every decade or three, most of the time people forget we have one. But - when they ARE needed they often play a critical role in making sure the constitutional democracy is preserved and not subject to serious abuses.