Canada cuts aid to Palestinians

[aeon]

Re: RE: Canada cuts aid to Palestinians

An interesting turn of events.

So long as we are not cutting off the citizens where assistance is needed, and the aid is being cut to the Government of the Palestinian Authority exclusively, then I support the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest and Prime Minister of Canada, in this decision.

So what??? hamas was elected by his peoples, so we must respect that, otherwise we dont believe in freedom and democracy, so as harper, and those who support his fascist decision.

Oh? Bush was elected by the people also, but you have a problem with that, ya?

Yes i do, and dont worry the whole has to deal with this idiot.

 

[Hank C]

Next step is to declare the Tamil Tigers a terrorist organization. The Fiberals couldn't do it as they were afraid of losing some MP's.

........am I going crazy becuase I though the Conservatives already declared the tamil tigers a terrorist group?

 

[Hank C]

Re: RE: Canada cuts aid to Palestinians

An interesting turn of events.

So long as we are not cutting off the citizens where assistance is needed, and the aid is being cut to the Government of the Palestinian Authority exclusively, then I support the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest and Prime Minister of Canada, in this decision.

So what??? hamas was elected by his peoples, so we must respect that, otherwise we dont believe in freedom and democracy, so as harper, and those who support his fascist decision.

stupid, stupid, stupid argument. Just because a government is democratically elected we should throw 100% support and aid behind them? Especially when that government is advocating violence?

Democracy is a gift that comes with responsibility, if Canada elected a government that advocated the destruction of Mexico then we would have to live with the consequences, its part of using your brain....please use it.

What does a democratically elected Hamas governemnt mean to Canada and the world....it means we accept the results and do not attempt to interfere with the will of the people by invading or attempting to over throw the terrorist governemnt unless they force us to. What kind of arguement is yours?.... we must support everything they do because it is a democratically elected govt????

 

[Johnny Utah]

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the suicide bombers kill a lot less Israelis than the Israeli military kill Palistinian civilians.

I don't know what planet you are on but here on Earth Israel does not target Palestinian Civilians and the suicide bombers do kill alot more Israelis.

 

[Sassylassie]

Sassy shaking her head, the poor Israelies can't seem to please anyone. At least they are will to give peace a chance and let the Palestinians rebuilt what could be their own country.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Sassy shaking her head, the poor Israelies can't seem to please anyone. At least they are will to give peace a chance and let the Palestinians rebuilt what could be their own country.

It sure seems there are a few Anti-Semitic's on this forum. :roll:

 

[aeon]

Re: RE: Canada cuts aid to Palestinians

the suicide bombers kill a lot less Israelis than the Israeli military kill Palistinian civilians.

I don't know what planet you are on but here on Earth Israel does not target Palestinian Civilians and the suicide bombers do kill alot more Israelis.

Ignorant at his best , here are the numbers


900 israelis dead since 2000

3489 palestinians are dead since 2000

100 000 homeless since 2000.


A dead person from an attack that wasnt targeted is still a dead person.

 

[Sassylassie]

Aeon I have no issues with the Israelis protecting themselves, I like Jews but I also like Arabs. I am half black, or do the KKK not consider someone who is half Native black. Gotta go fold my white sheets to put on the bed.

 

[Prairie_Ally]

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the suicide bombers kill a lot less Israelis than the Israeli military kill Palistinian civilians.

I don't know what planet you are on but here on Earth Israel does not target Palestinian Civilians and the suicide bombers do kill alot more Israelis.

So let me see...your argument is that the Palestinians kill more people so we should support the Israelis because they kill less people? Uh....something's seriously wrong with that argument.

Israeli actions cause the deaths of hundreds of Palestinians a year. Maybe they don't die quick violent deaths but the Israelis cause their deaths. Poverty is the number one killer of Palestinians, poverty caused by sanctions placed on Palestinians by the joint efforts of the American and Israeli governments. Punishing the Palestinians for the suicide bombings by with-holding aid will just exacerbate the problem. The violence will keep on going. Violence and poverty is a vicious circle. And this isn't just in Palestine/Israel. It happens worldwide. In Canada, where is the violence? It is in the places where poverty is. The more severe the poverty, the more severe the violence. Poverty begets hopelessness and desperation which causes those stuck in it to react violently.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Re: RE: Canada cuts aid to Palestinians

the suicide bombers kill a lot less Israelis than the Israeli military kill Palistinian civilians.

I don't know what planet you are on but here on Earth Israel does not target Palestinian Civilians and the suicide bombers do kill alot more Israelis.

So let me see...your argument is that the Palestinians kill more people so we should support the Israelis because they kill less people? Uh....something's seriously wrong with that argument.

Israeli actions cause the deaths of hundreds of Palestinians a year. Maybe they don't die quick violent deaths but the Israelis cause their deaths. Poverty is the number one killer of Palestinians, poverty caused by sanctions placed on Palestinians by the joint efforts of the American and Israeli governments. Punishing the Palestinians for the suicide bombings by with-holding aid will just exacerbate the problem. The violence will keep on going. Violence and poverty is a vicious circle. And this isn't just in Palestine/Israel. It happens worldwide. In Canada, where is the violence? It is in the places where poverty is. The more severe the poverty, the more severe the violence. Poverty begets hopelessness and desperation which causes those stuck in it to react violently.

All I read in your response is Blame Israel and the United States you don't blame Arafat and The PLO or Hamas.

Lord it's people like you who have their minds in the gutter while ignoring the real Terrorists such as Arafat "who is now rotting in hell where he belongs" and the PLO or Hamas who are the root cause of the hardships on the Palestinian people, not Israel or the United States.

 

[Prairie_Ally]

RE: Canada cuts aid to Pa

The thing about this article is that there was a seperation between those who rule and those who are ruled. I also make that seperation. The people on both sides are suffering for the bad moves made by their leaders.

The Palestinian and Israeli people are caught in an international tug-of-war, with one side having a strong anchor on one side--the American government.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Re: RE: Canada cuts aid to Pa

The thing about this article is that there was a seperation between those who rule and those who are ruled. I also make that seperation. The people on both sides are suffering for the bad moves made by their leaders.

The Palestinian and Israeli people are caught in an international tug-of-war, with one side having a strong anchor on one side--the American government.

You are right it's a tug of war. With the Party former PM Sharon formed winning in Israel's election the pulling out of Palestinian land will continue. The Israeli's voted for that party because they see the pulling out as a step to peace.

As for Israel building the wall, that is to keep out suicide bombers. Hamas winning, well they are in a position they never thought they would be in, because now after years of saying how they would run things they have to put up or lose face to not only the Palestinians but also the Middle East and the whole World, so the ball is in Hamas's court.

I know the United States talked of sending US Troops as peacekeepers years ago there but that would have only fed the fire so it's good they didn't.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I see cutting off Hamas as a couragious step. You can't have it both ways. While I understand why the people of Palestine punished Arafats corrupt party I am miffed at what they thought they could achieve by voting in Hamas.

Makes it hard to view them as victims.

Cheers
M

 

[Colpy]

I was thrilled to hear not only that Canada had cut off cash to the Palestinian Authority (which is now a terrorist organization, IMHO), but that we were the FIRST nation to do so.

If this government manages to stay in power, I may just become, once again, proud to be a Canadian.

I'm absolutely thrilled.

 

[FiveParadox]

I agree, Colpy, that this was a good decision on the part of the Government of Canada.

However, I simultaneously agree with the New Democratic Party of Canada, in that the funds previously given to the Palestinian Authority should be temporarily diverted to the other programs for Palestinians (that don't go through their government) in the meantime. I mean, this money shouldn't just stop — we should make sure that it goes where it can do some real help.

 

[Hank C]

Re: RE: Canada cuts aid to Palestinians

I agree, Colpy, that this was a good decision on the part of the Government of Canada.

However, I simultaneously agree with the New Democratic Party of Canada, in that the funds previously given to the Palestinian Authority should be temporarily diverted to the other programs for Palestinians (that don't go through their government) in the meantime. I mean, this money shouldn't just stop — we should make sure that it goes where it can do some real help.

its not jsut stopping.....it will just cease to flow to the palestinian authority which is good

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Hey Jersey: I will agree that the individual who straps a bomb to their body may feel justified and even righteous, but I do not believe that it is in their only alternative.

The Arab world has spun the occupation and the palestian plight. It is the Arab world that has kept this madness alive by using the palestinians as pawns and martyrs to deflect criticism and unrest in their own states.

They regard the palestians not as their brethen, but as mongels. Not one Arab state has offered land or immigration to the Palestinians because they don'y want them.

Do not mistake brainwashing and a cult mentality for a people who have been victimized by the Israeli's or the West. They have been treated as second class by their Arab Brothers and brainwashed by organizations like Hamas to murder and die for a mad cause.

Those who send these children to blow themselves up are no different than Charlie Manson, Jim Jones or David Coresh.

That's my impression of things.

 

[aeon]

Re: RE: Canada cuts aid to Palestinians

Hey Jersey: I will agree that the individual who straps a bomb to their body may feel justified and even righteous, but I do not believe that it is in their only alternative.

The Arab world has spun the occupation and the palestian plight. It is the Arab world that has kept this madness alive by using the palestinians as pawns and martyrs to deflect criticism and unrest in their own states.

They regard the palestians not as their brethen, but as mongels. Not one Arab state has offered land or immigration to the Palestinians because they don'y want them.

Do not mistake brainwashing and a cult mentality for a people who have been victimized by the Israeli's or the West. They have been treated as second class by their Arab Brothers and brainwashed by organizations like Hamas to murder and die for a mad cause.

Those who send these children to blow themselves up are no different than Charlie Manson, Jim Jones or David Coresh.

That's my impression of things.

Speculation at his best. Jordan arent arab?? where have you been in the last 50 years??

saudi arabia arent arab??

Those who send troops on the other side of the planet for a war based on a lie, arent differnt than charles manson, jim jones or david coresh.