Canada Bashers Double Standard
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Joining an organization such as the military can be very freeing. Just think of the many decisions that'll be made for you..you'll never have to worry about making up your mind again 
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I wonder if narcotics are involved in this definition of freedom?
Jay said:
I wonder if narcotics are involved in this definition of freedom?
Re: RE: CANADA BASHERS DOUBLE STANDARD
your thought processes are too narrow, jay,
either that or it is your hobby to mimmic the wing-nuts like coulter.
you see, freedom is an illusion. It is a product of your own experiences and thoughts. Think of the story of the bluejay and the dog. The dog lived happily in his yard. His friend the jay always told him "how can you be happy being cooped up in this yard?", to which the dog always replied "i am free here to do everything i want to, I chase squirrels, I dig holes, I play fetch, all my meals come to me, i have a warm place to sleep. I have no worries and can do anything i desire here in my yard." The jay always replied "but what of the world outside the yard? Don't you want to run in the forest? Don't you want to see what is over the mountains?...." To which the dog always replied "What would be over there that i don't have here? Would I still have a warm bed, all my meals cared for, etc. No thanks, I like my freedom here". As we see, the dog thinks he is free in his confines, for his confines frame his freedom. The bluejay also feels free in the greater confines of the world and could not live with some security in exchange for its loss. Both feel free, but that freedom is self-defined.
Welfare does not give you freedom, jay. Nor does your job. The material never will. It is the cheap trinkets your masters give you to trick you into thinking you are free, so you accept the fence built around you and the rules layed down upon you. Like the dog, you have been lulled into self sujegation. You place a false trust, and a false hope in an illusionary existance.
Jay said:
your thought processes are too narrow, jay,
either that or it is your hobby to mimmic the wing-nuts like coulter.
you see, freedom is an illusion. It is a product of your own experiences and thoughts. Think of the story of the bluejay and the dog. The dog lived happily in his yard. His friend the jay always told him "how can you be happy being cooped up in this yard?", to which the dog always replied "i am free here to do everything i want to, I chase squirrels, I dig holes, I play fetch, all my meals come to me, i have a warm place to sleep. I have no worries and can do anything i desire here in my yard." The jay always replied "but what of the world outside the yard? Don't you want to run in the forest? Don't you want to see what is over the mountains?...." To which the dog always replied "What would be over there that i don't have here? Would I still have a warm bed, all my meals cared for, etc. No thanks, I like my freedom here". As we see, the dog thinks he is free in his confines, for his confines frame his freedom. The bluejay also feels free in the greater confines of the world and could not live with some security in exchange for its loss. Both feel free, but that freedom is self-defined.
Welfare does not give you freedom, jay. Nor does your job. The material never will. It is the cheap trinkets your masters give you to trick you into thinking you are free, so you accept the fence built around you and the rules layed down upon you. Like the dog, you have been lulled into self sujegation. You place a false trust, and a false hope in an illusionary existance.
the caracal kid said:
You wish that was the case....you wish you had the ability to tell who's who in hinterland. You're judging that what you do not know. You don't know me from a hole in the ground. What kinda person....ahhh never mind.
How about this....the only freedom there actually is, is the love of Jesus Christ. Does that make you happy? Would anything make you happy in this regard? I'm not free because gravity is so cruel and I need air to breath, and these urges I get in my groin area are making my wife wish she was free of me (maybe)....
You want me to run in the forest so I can get shot by some frick'n nut bar ideologists; how free is that? We do live on the planet earth you know. Your making it seem (by your story) that I have no idea what is beyond those mountains, but I do….maybe the dog doesn’t but I do. Your are also contradicting yourself, and your doing it to poke at me, for in one breath my freedom is my own construct, and another it is the “the cheap trinkets your masters give you to trick you into thinking you are free” First of all my house isn't cheap and secondly your just plain wrong. I'm free to step in front of trains if I want to. (which I'm starting to believe is your purpose in all of this)
Maybe you have out of body experiences or something I dunno....but something is f*cked up here and you aren't letting us know what it is...
O and BTW Ann Coulter has more understanding of what is real than all the Liberals in North America combined….that is why they hate her. (Other than the fact she is Christian and likes fetuses.)
love of jesus? I would never promote placing anything in a fictional character of an outmoded mythology.
You house is not cheap, but it does imprision you! You allow it to imprison you, at one level. At another, you have no choice in the matter.
It is not contradictory that your freedom is both an illusion and reinforced by the trinkets of your conditioning.
There is no free will, even though it seems so real. Control of the human animal is very simple, and exercised exhaustively.
Be it religion or ideaology, you are being controlled. You demonstrate this in your defense of material trinkets like houses. You value it, it does not value you. In that relationship, you are owned by your house, you do not own it.
Ann Coulter understands how to manipulate the idiots. She creates her own reality to suit her needs. Her followers "hear and obey".
You house is not cheap, but it does imprision you! You allow it to imprison you, at one level. At another, you have no choice in the matter.
It is not contradictory that your freedom is both an illusion and reinforced by the trinkets of your conditioning.
There is no free will, even though it seems so real. Control of the human animal is very simple, and exercised exhaustively.
Be it religion or ideaology, you are being controlled. You demonstrate this in your defense of material trinkets like houses. You value it, it does not value you. In that relationship, you are owned by your house, you do not own it.
Ann Coulter understands how to manipulate the idiots. She creates her own reality to suit her needs. Her followers "hear and obey".
ask 10 questions, jay.
what would you like to know about the differences between subjective and objective realities?
what would you like to know about the underying factors in dictating human thought and behaviour?
do you want to know?
re: you house:
do you place some form of value in it?
do you care for it, do you protect it?
this is energy expenditure by you into the house.
the house does not expend energy explicidly for your benefit. anybody could be in the house and experience the same effects of being there as you. So how do you not see that it is your investment of your energy into the house that enslaves you to the house?
what would you like to know about the differences between subjective and objective realities?
what would you like to know about the underying factors in dictating human thought and behaviour?
do you want to know?
re: you house:
do you place some form of value in it?
do you care for it, do you protect it?
this is energy expenditure by you into the house.
the house does not expend energy explicidly for your benefit. anybody could be in the house and experience the same effects of being there as you. So how do you not see that it is your investment of your energy into the house that enslaves you to the house?
Re: the imprisoning house.
Yes I place value in it...it is already worth 25K more than I paid for it, an therefore others people place value on it too.
Do I do general maintenance on the house - yes I do...does this take energy? - yes it does.
Could anyone be in the house and experience the same sort of results that I do? - yes, that’s why they are willing to give me more than I paid for it.
Why can't I see that the investment I put into that house enslaves me? Because I do these things for my own good and of my own free will. Rather than imprison me it provides shelter…that’s part of the reason I bought it.
I have a very pregnant wife, and she “needs” it too, and so will the child. Speaking of lack of freedom are you married with kids?
Yes I place value in it...it is already worth 25K more than I paid for it, an therefore others people place value on it too.
Do I do general maintenance on the house - yes I do...does this take energy? - yes it does.
Could anyone be in the house and experience the same sort of results that I do? - yes, that’s why they are willing to give me more than I paid for it.
Why can't I see that the investment I put into that house enslaves me? Because I do these things for my own good and of my own free will. Rather than imprison me it provides shelter…that’s part of the reason I bought it.
I have a very pregnant wife, and she “needs” it too, and so will the child. Speaking of lack of freedom are you married with kids?
