Can Canada Survive?
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Derry McKinney said:
You seem to have a great deal of invectitude, and have no problem denigrating people and calling them names. I've decided I am no longer going to sink to that level where you reside. Thus, from now on, when you say things like "bullshit", "lies", "crap", "redneck", "loser" etc., I'm going to respond in the following manner;
"Normally I'd respond, but you're not worth the time."
or
"Bush supporter!"
The Chicago School is usually thought as a school of economics which propogates the supremecy of pure markets. Its most famous adherent is Milton Friedman.
http://cepa.newschool.edu/het/schools/chicago.htm
Lets me this day a day of posting without the usual name calling, on either side...just see if its possible, I include myself in this...so if I can do it..anyone can...first one that calls someone bad names gets banned for day...whos about that.
Well karilynn, you do as you please, all you have to do is read your first post at this board. Stay? go? your choice.
Well karilynn, you do as you please, all you have to do is read your first post at this board. Stay? go? your choice.
Well I am gonna jump ship now...I leave you in charge jay :lol: :lol: make sure there are no mutiny whilist I am away...or when I return....its the gangplank...
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While the insane free market theories are a major part of the Chicago School, promoting economic policies that amount to crimes against humanity, neo-conservatism and Straussian theory outside of economics is just as important in the ideas of the Chicago School.
How undemocratic and harmful those theories are is demonstrated by the anti-democratic miscreants who follow them even while trying to hide those ideas from the general public.
Still waiting for Toro to admit being a paid troll
Derry McKinney said:
So who are those miscreants who follow them while trying to hide those ideas from the general public? What are their names?
Trying to engage in a civil conversation. Waits for insults.
Just sycophantic spinners who jam the lines of call-in shows and show up on poster boards to try to keep people from understanding what's really happening. You know, assorted spinners, small-time fixers, those who quote from Republican talking points memos or quote PNAC supporters without crediting them.
Derry McKinney said:
Keep them from understanding the misinformation the far, far Left is spinning.
So what has this got to do with Canada surviving? Other than the neo-con plot to take over the world and sell it to the Andorians or whatever, I mean.
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And your point is really stupid and nonsensical. What name do you want to go by or is your other half now posting. Geez, you are transparent. :evil:
Reverend Blair said:
And your point is really stupid and nonsensical. What name do you want to go by or is your other half now posting. Geez, you are transparent. :evil:
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Come on, bluealberta, now's your chance; post an argument :evil:
bluealberta said:
Come on, bluealberta, now's your chance; post an argument :evil:
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Okay, there is no plot except in the small minds of those who are opposed to anything that the US does, or anything that the right wing in Canada proposes.
The fact is Canada is a small country on the world stage in terms of population and influence. To pretend otherwise is to take the ostrich approach. We need international trade, especially with the US, and to continually poke our biggest trading partner in the eye with a stick will not enhance any relationship we have with them. Many posts have been made about the softwood lumber disupute and the mad cow crisis and the US response. After so many years of negative comments from our elected and high office officials, what makes us think that the United States woud be predisposed to give our concerns more than a passing glance. Whether we like it or not, we are the mouse beside a sleeping elephant, and we have to stay out of the way when the elephant wakes up. Canada relies on the US for trade, jobs, protection, etc., and to pretend otherwise is to live in Egypt, or the State of Denile.(spelling intentional). Sometimes you have to get along to get along. :evil:
Hard-Luck Henry said:
Okay, there is no plot except in the small minds of those who are opposed to anything that the US does, or anything that the right wing in Canada proposes.
The fact is Canada is a small country on the world stage in terms of population and influence. To pretend otherwise is to take the ostrich approach. We need international trade, especially with the US, and to continually poke our biggest trading partner in the eye with a stick will not enhance any relationship we have with them. Many posts have been made about the softwood lumber disupute and the mad cow crisis and the US response. After so many years of negative comments from our elected and high office officials, what makes us think that the United States woud be predisposed to give our concerns more than a passing glance. Whether we like it or not, we are the mouse beside a sleeping elephant, and we have to stay out of the way when the elephant wakes up. Canada relies on the US for trade, jobs, protection, etc., and to pretend otherwise is to live in Egypt, or the State of Denile.(spelling intentional). Sometimes you have to get along to get along. :evil:
We weren't having as many problems when Clinton was in charge. We didn't change, the US did. That's the first thing you have to understand.
The US is violating trade rules. They know they are, we know they are. They keep losing in front of tribunals for a reason. It has nothing to do with people calling George Bush a moron. Other countrries that trade with the US are having the same problems, have won their cases in front of the same tribunals, and are watching the US continue to ignore the rulings. That's the second thing you have to understand.
The US does not have the best interests of Canada in mind. Our interests are not even a consideration to them. Allthat they care about is access to our resources. That's the third thing you have to understand.
The US needs us as badly as we need them. They need our resources. Without our oil, gas, and electricity they cannot run their industry. They can't even feed themselves without our energy and, by the way, they need our potash to keep their crops growing too. To think that we are at a disadvantage in our relationship with the US is not just the wrong answer, it shows you to be asking the wrong question. That's the fourth thing you need to understand.
The US is the most hated country on the planet right now. It isn't because people are jealous or hate their freedoms or any of the other crap that George Bush has spewed. It is because of their actions. The more Canada is seen as a satellite of the US, the less influence we have on the world stage. That's the fifth thing you need to understand, Blue.
There are some in this country, and you seem to be one of them, Blue, who have such an inferiority complex that they think sycophancy and toadyism are paths to political influence. They are not. They are, in fact, the path to political irrelevancy.
The US is violating trade rules. They know they are, we know they are. They keep losing in front of tribunals for a reason. It has nothing to do with people calling George Bush a moron. Other countrries that trade with the US are having the same problems, have won their cases in front of the same tribunals, and are watching the US continue to ignore the rulings. That's the second thing you have to understand.
The US does not have the best interests of Canada in mind. Our interests are not even a consideration to them. Allthat they care about is access to our resources. That's the third thing you have to understand.
The US needs us as badly as we need them. They need our resources. Without our oil, gas, and electricity they cannot run their industry. They can't even feed themselves without our energy and, by the way, they need our potash to keep their crops growing too. To think that we are at a disadvantage in our relationship with the US is not just the wrong answer, it shows you to be asking the wrong question. That's the fourth thing you need to understand.
The US is the most hated country on the planet right now. It isn't because people are jealous or hate their freedoms or any of the other crap that George Bush has spewed. It is because of their actions. The more Canada is seen as a satellite of the US, the less influence we have on the world stage. That's the fifth thing you need to understand, Blue.
There are some in this country, and you seem to be one of them, Blue, who have such an inferiority complex that they think sycophancy and toadyism are paths to political influence. They are not. They are, in fact, the path to political irrelevancy.
Watch out for the crowd, the herd instinct.
The crowd stands in one metaphorical location, seeing it only from that location's standing point.
Point of view is singular in nature.
Einstein looked straight into the core of that.
The crowd stands in one metaphorical location, seeing it only from that location's standing point.
Point of view is singular in nature.
Einstein looked straight into the core of that.
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This is incorrect, at least in terms of specific trade actions. The softwood lumber issue dates back to the 1980s. There were several actions against Canadian lumber taken under Clinton. There were other actions as well. The US slapped duties on durham wheat coming into the US from Canada. The US banned potatoes from PEI because of environmental concerns. Finally, the US challenged the marketing board system in Canada. Protectionist measures tend to bubble up through Congress as pressure is put on by local interests.
This is true, and certainly it is frustrating, but its not only the US who does this. Canada has done so in the beer industry. Canada had lost case after case under the GATT and the NAFTA but kept changing the laws so that nothing changed in the beer market while forcing the US to go back and re-issue challenges on different grounds.
The largest producer of potash in North America is a company called IMC Global based in Tampa, though PCS may have the most capacity. I cannot remember. I believe potash is a net export for North American producers.
Reverend Blair said:
This is incorrect, at least in terms of specific trade actions. The softwood lumber issue dates back to the 1980s. There were several actions against Canadian lumber taken under Clinton. There were other actions as well. The US slapped duties on durham wheat coming into the US from Canada. The US banned potatoes from PEI because of environmental concerns. Finally, the US challenged the marketing board system in Canada. Protectionist measures tend to bubble up through Congress as pressure is put on by local interests.
Reverend Blair said:
This is true, and certainly it is frustrating, but its not only the US who does this. Canada has done so in the beer industry. Canada had lost case after case under the GATT and the NAFTA but kept changing the laws so that nothing changed in the beer market while forcing the US to go back and re-issue challenges on different grounds.
Reverend Blair said:
The largest producer of potash in North America is a company called IMC Global based in Tampa, though PCS may have the most capacity. I cannot remember. I believe potash is a net export for North American producers.