California Should Copy Texas

[ironsides]

What really is California. doing besides ripping off their people?

12/07/2009 07:30 PM ET

California: While Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger worries about rising seas, his state sinks below the waves. Don't mess with Texas, they say. But California and the nation could follow its lead.
Last Wednesday, Gov. Schwarzenegger released a new report based on research compiled by the California Energy Commission claiming that by 2100 San Francisco Bay would be more bay than San Francisco, with Fisherman's Wharf and Treasure Island under the rising waters of climate change.
His show-and-tell, which included a new Google Earth application the commission spent $150,000 to help develop, goes a long way toward explaining the once-Golden State's slide into an economic and budgetary abyss.
The governor and legislative Democrats in 2006 approved a new law requiring California to reduce its greenhouse gas emissions 25% by 2020. This 2020 vision was myopic, and the state has been losing industry, jobs and people ever since. But the governor persists, warning Wednesday that "we must also be prepared if climate change continues to worsen."

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=514556

 

[Ron in Regina]

Wow....and that's not even the half of it. This comes from the perspective of
Commercial Transport. California has soooo many environmental laws on the
books that they cant even keep track of them, let along enforce them, or even
afford to enforce them.

I doubt anyone over the age of 25 hasn't at least heard of the term "California
Emissions" with respect to pollution control devices. Being (or once being)
the eighth largest economy on the planet....California dictated policy across
North America due to it's size ($$$ and not geographical). They'd change the
rules and it you wanted to build a vehicle that might enter or be sold into the
California market....you'd better conform.

The latest batch of emission standards that are in the works (coming down
the pipe but not in place yet) are just beyond the means of most Truckers or
Leased Operators or Carriers to retrofit new but existing Trucks in order to
conform.

Talk is if these rules come to pass (would add another aprox $12,000.00 to
the cost of every new class 8 Tractor, and much more to retrofit existing units)
in order to just enter California, that a new business class of California
compliant Trucks would exist inside California and have to run out into the
surrounding states (Oregon, Nevada, and Arizona) to pick up loads that have
been dropped outside their border to complete runs that have come across
the continent already by another company.

(P.S. the changes in existing Federal Emissions laws have already added
aprox $8,000 - $10,000 to the cost of every new class 8 Tractor while either
maintaining or decreasing their mileage....in the last year)

Already, most Trucks that have Hauled a load across the continent, can not
enter the Ports in California to complete their runs, and have to contract out for
the last two miles in order to get their loads onto boats to ship them overseas.

Interjuradictional Transport is a game of pennies weighed per mile for expenses
amortized over a finite life-span of a Truck as to whether or not there is a
profit or a loss in any venture. Margins are slim-slim right now and the wiggle
room doesn't exist for anything more like I've briefly described above, eighth
largest economy or not. It's not a cool situation.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Sorry....I rambled above. Here's the punchline. Eighth largest economy or not,
what happens when it's just not profitable to ship into California? Will Arnie just
write larger I.O.U.'s? How sustainable is that? It may sound like I'm describing
fiction above, but it's not far off.

Look at what happened between the state of California and the province of B.C.
with respect to the sale of Electrical Power. B.C. got ripped off HUGELY but the
California pie was just too big not to continue selling power to....but it can only
take just so many Arnie Bucks (I.O.U.'s) before it just doesn't make sense to
continue to deal with California as a customer. Eventually zero profit trumps out
continued and massive net loss and the gamble of potential future profit.

 

[Mowich]

Sheesh, Ron, that doesn't give me much hope for BC. Our premier is big buds with the terminator (fitting term actually, considering how he seems to be terminating California, or trying to) and seems to like following in his environmental footsteps.

 

[Liberalman]

At least we know why Atlantis ended up under water and they had technology ahead of ours

 

[Niflmir]

But these are just examples of why unilateral decisions on climate change strategy are just doomed to hurt the good.

People want to come to an agreement for a reason: if some people don't have to comply, the good guys get the short end of the stick.

 

[Ron in Regina]

I was just pointing out the ridiculous situation of one jurisdiction forcing
legislation upon many many others. It happens with far reaching
consequences.

 

[TenPenny]

You have to remember that one of the reasons for the 'California emissions' car regulation was that LA was the first city to show the incredible smog from car exhaust. They experienced it first, so they dealt with it first.

 

[ironsides]

And they still have it.

 

[JLM]

Sorry....I rambled above. Here's the punchline. Eighth largest economy or not,
what happens when it's just not profitable to ship into California? Will Arnie just
write larger I.O.U.'s? How sustainable is that? It may sound like I'm describing
fiction above, but it's not far off.

Look at what happened between the state of California and the province of B.C.
with respect to the sale of Electrical Power. B.C. got ripped off HUGELY but the
California pie was just too big not to continue selling power to....but it can only
take just so many Arnie Bucks (I.O.U.'s) before it just doesn't make sense to
continue to deal with California as a customer. Eventually zero profit trumps out
continued and massive net loss and the gamble of potential future profit.

Ha ha "Arnie" maybe that's a subject that should be explored! Not sure just how anyone ever translated his physical stature to the stature of his brain!!!!!!!!!!!!!