The link posted in the original article was written by someone who is obviously biased and makes one giant assumption. And that is that hunters are stupid men who have a testosterone problem. :lol: Get real, and out from behind your computer screen
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What about the women? If they have more testosterone they have bigger boobs and more sexually agressive.
i meant it in the sense
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i know many hunters who are good respectable people of society. Sure their are a few bad apples just like in any other feild of interest. To say they only go out to prove to their friends they have the biggest cock or piss the farthest is doing a disservice to everyone in the industry that supports hunting.
To those who whine and bitch about hunting get out from behind the computer screen and gets lives
from the article
i know many hunters who are good respectable people of society. Sure their are a few bad apples just like in any other feild of interest. To say they only go out to prove to their friends they have the biggest cock or piss the farthest is doing a disservice to everyone in the industry that supports hunting.
To those who whine and bitch about hunting get out from behind the computer screen and gets lives
I have no problem with hunting for food, but I don't believe it is a sport and trophy hunters are weakening the herds by killing the dominant males, the breeding stock. Then many of them will get their balls in a knot because wolves are culling the herds of these weaker specimens. The only interest they have conservation is in making sure they have big bucks and bulls to kill. They want the wolves culled when it is them that should be culled. I have hunted out of necessity, but never for sport.
Like i said how do you know cliffy? Do you have some magic crystal ball that gives you a special insight to everyones mind and psyche? I know tons of hunters who are content with doe, cow, calf and fawn..... Ive heard people talking about getting the BIG ONE, but i aint known anyone to go all primative and getting reckless in their pursuit for one. Tell me cliffy are you on another im angry i was born a white male mood?
Trophies or no trophies big game numbers are at level were culling is necessary Cliffy. Open moose zones in Southern SK are something that 40 years ago where already unheard of for 40 years. 20 years ago when they started to show up it was front page of the newspaper and feature on the nightly news. Today. 20 years later they are over populated. Even bears and cats are roaming the prairie again. Trophies aren't hard to come by and sell out hotels province wide every fall.
I lived in the forest in BC for ten years with the deer, bears and moose. I have found carcasses left in the bush with only their heads missing. I realize I don't know squat about the prairies and their wildlife stats, but I have met too many yahoos in BC whose self esteem is tied to whether of not they kill one bigger than their buddies. And I am not tarring all hunters with the same brush. I know plenty of responsible hunters, but I also know a lot of jerks.
I'm sure that is the case but I have a hard time wrapping my head around the idea of hunting being an industry. I lived with the animals and I have a lot more respect for them than most humans.
Heads are take by ministry of environment for chronic wasting, TB etc sampling. They do random sampling in all herds all year round and leave the carcasses for scavengers.
If those diseases are transmitted to the cattle we eat then we're all screwed. Both man and hundreds of species of game.
Deer Head Submission and CWD Testing
Hunters play an important role in Alberta's CWD monitoring by submitting heads of harvested deer for CWD testing.
Step One: Deer Head Submission
Hunter CWD surveillance starts with the submission of hunter-harvested deer heads along with the geographic coordinates where each deer was killed in Alberta.
- Depending on where in Alberta you are hunting, deer head submission for CWD testing is either mandatory or voluntary.
- Be familiar with the CWD testing requirements for the area that you are hunting in.
- For a map illustrating mandatory and voluntary CWD testing areas in Alberta, see Related Information below for CWD Freezer Locations (Deer Hunters: Assist Us With Our CWD Surveillance).
- If possible, please do not shoot deer in the head, as this can damage the lymph node and brain samples needed for testing. A usable sample consists of the entire head but you can remove the antlers and antler skull plate and not damage the required tissues.
- Please remove the neck just behind the head – so the head takes up much less space in the freezer!
- Do not remove and submit only the brain.
- For so-called 'European'; mounts, submit the lower portion of the skull, including:
- Lower jaw
- Tissues at the back of the throat, and
- The part of the skull that contains the connection between the spinal cord and the brain
- Keep the deer head frozen.
- You can drop off the frozen head at any Fish and Wildlife office in Alberta (during regular office hours)
- During fall rifle seasons there are 24-hour freezer locations where heads can be dropped off. See Related Information below for CWD Freezer Locations (Deer Hunters: Assist Us With Our CWD Surveillance).
- Every head submitted for CWD testing must have a green CWD identification label fixed to it (see below).
- The freezers contain bags and green CWD identification labels for you to fill out (bags and labels also are available at Fish and Wildlife offices). It is very important that you:
- Fill out both sides of the CWD label, providing as much detail as possible regarding the location of the submitted sample (GPS, Sec/Twp/Rge, or latitude/longitude) in addition to the Wildlife Management Unit [WMU])
- Provide your complete personal contact information, so that we can contact you with test results
- Fasten the CWD label securely to the head of the deer.
- Keep the bottom part of the label as your record of the CWD number that identifies each specific deer head.
- CWD Freezer Locations (Deer Hunters: Assist Us With Our CWD Surveillance) - 2009 (1 page) A map and list identifying the current areas of mandatory and voluntary deer head submissions as well as the locations of 24-hour freezers in Alberta where hunters can drop off deer heads for testing during fall rifle seasons.
- Attention Deer Hunters: Surveillance of Harvested Deer Heads for CWD - 2009 (1 page)
A poster outlining the current fall surveillance program, and instructions on making a proper deer head submission. - CWD Guidelines: Deer Carcass Transportation and Handling - Oct 2009 (2 pages) Suggested precautions and guidelines regarding the transportation and handling of deer carcasses, specifically those deer taken in areas of Alberta considered at risk for CWD, or areas outside Alberta where CWD is known to occur.
- Fish and Wildlife Office Contacts A list of Fish and Wildlife Division offices in Alberta, including telephone contact information for each office.
- How to Fill Out CWD Identification Labels- 2010 (1 page) An illustration of how to fill out the green CWD identification label for each deer head submission.
Hunter-submitted deer heads are tested to determine if the harvested deer was infected with CWD. Results of tests are provided to the hunter.
- All CWD laboratory testing in Alberta is conducted by the Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development (ARD).
- CWD test results are reported to the Fish and Wildlife Division of Sustainable Resource Development (SRD) on an ongoing basis.
- All hunters who submit heads for CWD testing will be informed by SRD about results on their deer.
- Hunters who submit deer heads that test NEGATIVE for CWD can
- Check their AlbertaRELM website for results 4-6 weeks after submission of the head (you will need your WIN number).
- Watch for a notice of negative results sent in the mail.
- Hunters who submit deer heads that test POSITIVE for CWD will be contacted directly by phone by Fish and Wildlife staff.
- Ongoing public notification of positive cases in wild deer in Alberta is provided on SRD web pages. Summary of all CWD testing in Alberta is provided through the ARD websites.
- Data collected from CWD surveillance is used to determine the geographic boundaries and magnitude of the disease in Alberta. These data also are used to support ongoing management as well as research done in conjunction with the University of Alberta to better understand this disease.
- AlbertaRELM Get CWD test results for your harvested deer head. You will need your WIN number.
- CWD Updates Review this page for the following information:
- Chronic Wasting Disease in Wild Deer in Alberta since September 2005 –A map illustrating CWD cases in wild deer in Alberta from September 2005 to present.
- Statistics: CWD in Wild Deer in Alberta - A list of all CWD cases in wild deer in Alberta.
- Monthly and Cumulative Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) Test Results in Farmed and Wild Cervids in Alberta Summary of CWD testing in Alberta on the Agriculture and Rural Development website.
In BC Ecosystems Branch - Wildlife Health
And when you found these carcasses did you report them to the Fish and Wildlife rangers, so they could at least attempt to catch the culprits or did you bask in your hatred of civilization, walk away doing nothing and make yourself a part of someone else's crime?
Leaving animals like that and wasting the meat IS a crime.
Well you were shown the Saskatchewan numbers, now multiply that by about 6 or 7 (maybe more) to include the rest of the Prairies, BC, Northern Ontario, Quebec and the Territories. There is a significant spin off there. If people lost that many jobs in another sector of the economy, the NDP and labour groups would be demanding bailouts and action by the gov't.
I'm not going to argue that there aren't any people that abuse the system, just like I'm not going to claim they belong to any specific ethnicity (I grew up in the bush in Northern Alberta and knew of poachers from various backgrounds) but there are two sides to this, like with so many things, and its not a black and white issue except to those who want to spin it into part of an agenda.