Brits divided over 'poppy hijab'

[Tecumsehsbones]

Religious freedoms...can't make it illegal.

You can make violent coercion illegal. If you can't, your laws need revising.

You also can't expect a person who has been raised to be submissive and who believes their entire afterlife is dependant on that submission to suddenly stand up straight and become independant of all that? You expect these men who've been brought up to believe in their "perceived" superiority to suddenly just back down?

Nope. I expect a lot of them to do time.

If that were possible then we'd have no women's shelters.

Like we have no men's shelters. The absurdity of how we pick and choose who is entitled to society's protection and who isn't is one of the many good reasons for enforcing the damn law.

I wish it were easy like that. But as you well know, the threat of eternal damnation makes people horrible to each other.

No matter what you say or do, many many people will throw away their freedom and waste their lives on any number of fantasies. That's why the persistent, continual message must be "Nobody can forcibly coerce somebody else. And you are responsible for your choices."

The only other solution is an ever-growing list of arbitrary and nonsensical rules, each one snuffing out a little more human freedom.

 

[Twila]

No matter what you say or do, many many people will throw away their freedom and waste their lives on any number of fantasies. That's why the persistent, continual message must be "Nobody can forcibly coerce somebody else. And you are responsible for your choices."

The only other solution is an ever-growing list of arbitrary and nonsensical rules, each one snuffing out a little more human freedom.

" And you are responsible for your choices."

This might need to be the thing we teach our children. First, we'll have to teach them the difference between a reason and excuse.

We'll need to also learn that not everybody learns the same way and that's OK. Which really means we'll have to accept that others are different and that their difference is no reflection on us. That seems to be a huge problem currently. You can see it here and all you have to do is mention 2 words. Feminism and Religion.

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Like we have no men's shelters. The absurdity of how we pick and choose who is entitled to society's protection and who isn't is one of the many good reasons for enforcing the damn law.

Do you think men would go to a men's shelter? They are unwilling to step up now and ask for help when they are in an abusive relationship with women.

Men have trouble simply asking for help. They seem to think they're not man enough or something.

 

[Sal]

The only other solution is an ever-growing list of arbitrary and nonsensical rules, each one snuffing out a little more human freedom.

in this case, I have to say, one more freedom limiting law to get rid of that stiffling black tent would be okey dokey by me.