British WERE gathering intelligence on Iranians before they were captured

[MikeyDB]

Of course rational thought and the absence of fact-based data has never prevented either Britain or the United States from fomenting war and destruction....

Any "cause" will do...

 

[earth_as_one]

Ahmadinejad set a good example by releasing those spies -- now it's time for Bush to do the same for Iranian diplomats he kidnapped in Iraq this past December.

Maybe Bush will get his tailor to dress them up in suits just like Ahmadinejad did with his "guests". The departing loot bags were a nice touch.

Sort of makes the typical American treatment of their "guests" seem rather harsh in comparison. More likely this is kind of treatment the Iranian diplomats have already experienced:

CIA's Harsh Interrogation Techniques Described

Sources Say Agency's Tactics Lead to Questionable Confessions, Sometimes to Death

Nov. 18, 2005 — Harsh interrogation techniques authorized by top officials of the CIA have led to questionable confessions and the death of a detainee since the techniques were first authorized in mid-March 2002, ABC News has been told by former and current intelligence officers and supervisors...

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=1322866

Behind release of Iranian diplomat
Sat, 07 Apr 2007

An informed source unveiled details of the release of the second Secretary of Iran's embassy in Iraq on Saturday.

The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, stated that Jalal Sharafi was handed to the Iranian diplomats in Baghdad on April 2, while he was handcuffed.

He added that the diplomat was immediately held under tight security measures.

The source reiterated that the Iranian diplomats had informed the Iraqi officials of Sharafi's release and called for troop dispatch around Iranian embassy in Baghdad for protection of the site.

The source noted that Sharafi had been tortured by his captors, among them U.S. intelligence officials, saying there were also signs of torture on his hands and feet.

He pointed out that Sharafi was subjected to different forms of torture day and night.

The official said the kidnappers took Sharafi to a base near Baghdad airport and he was questioned by Arabic-speaking and English-speaking interrogators.

He quoted Sharafi as saying, "The CIA questions focused mainly on Iran's presence and influence in Iraq. When faced with my responses on Iran's official ties with the Iraqi government, they increased the torture."

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=5270&sectionid=351020101

That came from the Iranian news.

 

[Zzarchov]

And is there any more credible news source than a state sponsored media from a state who stones journalists to death for reporting stories they don't like?

 

[Sparrow]

What about the reports from the US government itself that is does torture detaines, do you consider this more credible.

 

[earth_as_one]

I don't trust any government or news source. But I'll certanly listen to what they have to say, even the Americans which have consistently revealed themselves to be deceptive.

But you tell me Z, which captive would you rather be, an Iranian diplomat picked up by the Americans in Iraq or a released British sailor about to sell their story?

...The ministry said it had waived rules barring serving military personnel from selling their stories because of huge public interest in the case. "These are considered to be exceptional circumstances," a ministry spokeswoman said.

Some popular British newspapers pay people for their sensational stories to boost sales. The spokeswoman said the 15 would be able to keep fees which press reports estimated could total as much as 250,000 pounds ($680,700)...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10433295

I haven't seen any story saying a sailor has sold their story yet, but there is nothing which can stop them legally.

 

[L Gilbert]

Besides what Dex said, any country able to spy on anyone else os has been doing it all along anyway.

 

[MHz]

And is there any more credible news source than a state sponsored media from a state who stones journalists to death for reporting stories they don't like?

Rachel was run over by a bulldozer. I checked with my life insurance guy, a new job as a reporter in a 'war zone or protest zone' greatly increases my monthly rate, even then it could be cancelled depending what part of the world I was headed for.

For all the hoopla over Iran filming them and airing it (how many times was it shown in Iran) the west certainly showed the footage for what would become hours and hours of broadcasting something they found offensive. When you re-broadcast 'offensive material' you become as offensive as whoever took the pics in the first place. All the fuss was over their privacy being infringed upon. It was Britian who released a name of any of the captives before Iran did.

When the stories get published I would bet there are more pronouns and adverbs in there than is really needed to get the facts of their detainment out.

 

[Sparrow]

I don't trust any government or news source. But I'll certanly listen to what they have to say, even the Americans which have consistently revealed themselves to be deceptive.

But you tell me Z, which captive would you rather be, an Iranian diplomat picked up by the Americans in Iraq or a released British sailor about to sell their story?



I haven't seen any story saying a sailor has sold their story yet, but there is nothing which can stop them legally.

The story does not say that they have sold their stories except to the media:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6537103.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6536203.stm granting them permission.

 

[gopher]

And is there any more credible news source than a state sponsored media from a state who stones journalists to death for reporting stories they don't like?

Oh, you mean like the CIA's attempt to murder [SIZE=-1]Giuliana Sgrena but who wound up killing her body guard?[/SIZE]

 

[westmanguy]

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FOX News Channel is also owned by News Corp. FNC from time to time gets feeds and reports from Sky News, and vise versa with Sky News getting coverage from the United States from FNC.

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