Britain threatens to walk out of Brexit negotiations

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Number 10 has reportedly told business leaders that Theresa May could storm out of Brexit talks over the divorce bill in a bid to boost her ratings at home.

A top Downing Street figure is said to have briefed industry and City bosses to prepare them for news of the PM's explosive row with Brussels later this year.

The move was reportedly being orchestrated for 'domestic consumption' as the beleaguered PM tries to get back on the front foot and drum up some support in the wake of the election disaster...

Number 10 'tells business leaders that Theresa May could storm out of Brexit talks in a row over the divorce bill to boost her ratings at home'

Downing St 'briefed business leaders that May could have Brussels showdown'
Row 'being orchestrated for domestic consumption' to show she is tough
The plan was being drawn up in the wake of the Tory election disaster of June 8

By Kate Ferguson, Political Correspondent For Mailonline
2 July 2017

Number 10 has reportedly told business leaders that Theresa May could storm out of Brexit talks over the divorce bill in a bid to boost her ratings at home.

A top Downing Street figure is said to have briefed industry and City bosses to prepare them for news of the PM's explosive row with Brussels later this year.

The move was reportedly being orchestrated for 'domestic consumption' as the beleaguered PM tries to get back on the front foot and drum up some support in the wake of the election disaster.

Mrs May is said to be preparing to take a tough line over the divorce bill - which has been rumoured to be as large as €100 billion (£87.7 billion).

Theresa May, pictured at church today with her husband Philip. Reports have emerged that British businesses were briefed to prepare them for the PM storming out of Brexit talks later this year

At the briefing, which is said to have taken place after the election, business chiefs were told that while no final decision had been made it was a distinct possibility that the PM would storm out of talks.

A source familiar with No10 told The Sunday Telegraph: 'I do think we are looking to be as hard-nosed, as hard-headed and as cold-eyed about this as it is possible to be.

'If any of those actions take place it will be to work towards a single objective – getting the best deal that we can.'

The briefing reportedly happened after the election and was leaked by a source who is among the exodus from Downing Street which has happened in the wake of the poll humiliation.

It is understood the briefing was carried out at to try head off any market backlash if there is a sudden collapse in the talks.

Mrs May has repeatedly said that 'no deal is better than a bad deal' and that Britain will no longer tolerate paying huge amounts into the EU's coffers.

But there are fears that Eurocrats will try to seize upon Mrs May's weakened position in the wake of the election to force her to accept a punishment deal.

Brexit Secretary David Davis, pictured meeting the EU's chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier in Brussels last month. Formal talks on leaving the EU have kicked off, and Theresa May and Mr Davis have both warned that Britain will in future not pay huge amounts into the EU's coffers

Read more: May could storm out of Brexit talks to boost ratings | Daily Mail Online
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[Curious Cdn]

Think what good deals you'll get, THEN!

You sure are gambling hard on a pair of deuces.

 

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[tay]

She should resign........


Britons would vote Remain if Brexit referendum was held tomorrow, poll finds

Britons would vote Remain if Brexit referendum was held again, poll finds | London Evening Standard


LABOUR 45%, CONS 39%: Tories fall below 40% in poll for first time since election campaign

Tories fall below 40% in poll for first time since election campaign | The Independent

 

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Think what good deals you'll get, THEN!

You sure are gambling hard on a pair of deuces.

As Mrs May rightly say: "No deal is better than a bad deal."

If the EU keeps wanting Britain to pay hundreds of thousands of billions of trillions of pounds in a "divorce bill" (especially when, in my opinion, it should be the EU paying Britain money after the billions of pounds Britain has contributed to the EU budget over 44 years) then Britain should tell the EU to go frig itself, walk out of the negotiations and quit the EU way before March 2019. And I'll be happy if that happened by the end of the year. These negotiations are a waste of time. There's no need for them.

 

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[Jinentonix]

Think what good deals you'll get, THEN!

You sure are gambling hard on a pair of deuces.

Not at all, when she has a pair of aces in the hole. You forget, Germany owes Britain a f*ck-ton of money from loans prior to and after WW2 that Britain decided to "forgive". If the EU wants to be assholes about it, May could very easily remind Merkel of that little fact and either demand repayment or call the outstanding loans the exit fee. There's no goddam way it should cost Britain a f*cking dime for exiting a union it was dragged into illegally and unconstitutionally. And the EU goddam well knows that.
May needs to quit pussy-footing around and start playing hardball with the f*ckwits.

 

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She should resign........

Britons would vote Remain if Brexit referendum was held tomorrow, poll finds

Britons would vote Remain if Brexit referendum was held again, poll finds | London Evening Standard


LABOUR 45%, CONS 39%: Tories fall below 40% in poll for first time since election campaign

Tories fall below 40% in poll for first time since election campaign | The Independent

Oh dear. Not still posting those dodgy polls, are you?

You can post all the dodgy polls you like but the facts are as follows -

1) There isn't going to be another EU referendum. Britain is leaving the EU according to the wishes of the people.

2) Saying how Labour and the Tories are doing in the dodgy polls is rather pointless considering that the next election is not until Thursday 5th May 2022.

3). Most polls showed Remain would easily win the EU referendum, and did so just the day before the referendum - yet Leave won.

But if it's polls you like, there are plenty out there for you to pick and choose. It just depends which ones you believe:

Britain would still vote to leave EU a year after referendum

June 27, 2017
Albert Jack

FILE PHOTO - EU and Union flags fly above Parliament Square - REUTERS/Peter Nicholls

One year after the UK’s historic vote to leave the European Union (EU) the British public would vote by the same margin to leave the bloc, a poll has revealed.

The survey, conducted to coincide with the first anniversary of the Brexit vote, predicts that 52 per cent of voters would choose to leave the EU, with 48 per cent voting to remain.

The Panelbase poll for The Sunday Times was conducted online and had a sample size of 5,481 people.

The details of the survey suggest more than 90 per cent of people would vote in the same way as they did in 2016, election analyst and founder of Number Cruncher Politics Matt Singh claimed on Twitter.

It reinforces the results of a recent YouGov poll that showed 52 per cent back a so-called “hard Brexit” whereby the UK leaves the Single Market and the Customs Union.

Britain would still vote to leave EU a year after referendum

Not at all, when she has a pair of aces in the hole. You forget, Germany owes Britain a f*ck-ton of money from loans prior to and after WW2 that Britain decided to "forgive". If the EU wants to be assholes about it, May could very easily remind Merkel of that little fact and either demand repayment or call the outstanding loans the exit fee. There's no goddam way it should cost Britain a f*cking dime for exiting a union it was dragged into illegally and unconstitutionally. And the EU goddam well knows that.
May needs to quit pussy-footing around and start playing hardball with the f*ckwits.

Mrs May should tell the EU that, rather than Britain owing it money, it owes Britain £58bn:

Pay the EU £90bn? No! Non! Nein! From £12bn in loans to £2.5bn on the NHS, LEO McKINSTRY explains why they owe US £58bn

Read more: LEO McKINSTRY explains why the EU owes us £58bn* | Daily Mail Online
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Number 10 has reportedly told business leaders that Theresa May could storm out of Brexit talks over the divorce bill in a bid to boost her ratings at home.

A top Downing Street figure is said to have briefed industry and City bosses to prepare them for news of the PM's explosive row with Brussels later this year.

The move was reportedly being orchestrated for 'domestic consumption' as the beleaguered PM tries to get back on the front foot and drum up some support in the wake of the election disaster...

So, your principled exit from the EU has devolved into cheap political theatre? That didn't take long. Maybe because that's all it ever was.

 

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So, your principled exit from the EU has devolved into cheap political theatre? That didn't take long. Maybe because that's all it ever was.

You didn't really believe that the Brexit negotiations were merely going to be two years of the greatest country on Earth meekly accepting every EU demand, did you? Negotiations often aren't friendly in nature and May lookalike she will be tough.

May has said for months that if the EU doesn't play to Britain's tune and keeps making offers that are bad for Britain then Britain will simply walk away from the negotiations: "No deal is better than a bad deal." And it's such a stance which puts Britain in a strong position and could see Britain quit the EU by the end of the year.

 

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A year on from the Brexit referendum Britain feels like Lord Glasgow’s castle. The most visible damage has been done to its domestic politics. With the Conservative Party in turmoil Jeremy Corbyn, Labour’s hard-left leader, talks about being prime minister in six months.

But just as serious is the blow to Britain’s global standing, which is lower than it has been at any time since the Suez crisis in 1956, when America crushed Anthony Eden’s attempt to reassert British power in Egypt.

For decades Britain’s foreign policy has rested on three pillars: the United States, the European Union and the emerging world.

Britain’s decision to leave will obviously diminish its influence in Europe. Even if it can negotiate favourable access to the single market it will no longer be part of the EU’s decision-making apparatus. Its weakness has already been exposed: David Davis, Britain’s chief Brexit negotiator, has so far done little but make concessions. So has its isolation. Theresa May is now routinely asked to leave meetings when EU business is discussed.

Britain is leaving the EU at a time when its relations with the United States are perilous. Donald Trump is a volatile figure whose lodestar is “America first”. He is extraordinarily divisive, meaning that the closer Britain gets to Mr Trump the more it alienates anti-Trumpists.

A survey of 37 countries by the Pew Research Centre found that just 22% of people thought that Mr Trump would “do the right thing” in international affairs. Barack Obama scored 64% in the final year of his presidency.

What of the third pillar? The Brexiteers’ strongest card is that they are globalists. Untethered from Europe’s rotting corpse, they argue, Britain will be free to engage with the emerging world. Yet there is no evidence that British companies were held back from this by EU membership. The EU hasn’t prevented Germany’s Mittelstand companies from becoming global powerhouses.

The reverse might be the case: emerging countries are interested above all in access to the EU’s market of 500m people.

Since the 1980s Britain and America have been the world’s leading apostles of the ideology of the moment, neoliberalism. British consultants travelled around Europe and the former Soviet Union offering lessons on privatisation. The Swedes introduced internal markets into their welfare state. The Germans tried to adopt “shareholder capitalism”. But neoliberalism took a beating with the 2008 financial crisis. Britain and America have since been humbled by a populist tide that produced Brexit on one side of the Atlantic and Mr Trump on the other. Brexiteers argued that a Leave vote would produce a “Brexit spring” as the ancien régime tottered and the euro plunged. Instead, the EU is in its best shape in years, with a young reformer installed in the Élysée Palace and the Franco-German axis solid.


Across the continent the press talks of Britain as the “sick man of Europe”.

In the aftermath of the Suez crisis, Dean Acheson lamented that Britain had lost an empire and failed to find a role. In the subsequent decades, post-imperial Britain in fact found several roles: as a fulcrum between Europe and America; as an old hand at globalisation in a re-globalising world; and as a leading exponent of neoliberalism. Thanks to the combination of the financial crisis and Brexit, it has lost all of these functions in one great rush.

The windows have shattered and the ceiling has fallen in.

http://www.economist.com/news/brita...tic-figure-global-stage-suez-britains-decline

 

[Murphy]

Britons have no principles. The recent election proves that and more. They will be punished economically for their childish whining. And immigration will breed them out of existence. Good riddance. Cheap political theatre doesn't even begin to describe the actions of May's government. Moronic. Cocky. Insipid. Unprincipled. These are the words that should be used to describe the government and the people. They can beat their chests, but they have no ace in the hole. Just an island full of stupid.

May should have another vote. :lol: An island full of dullards don't like her, and no wonder. Mother Nature will breed out the deficient gene pool and all will be well in forty years.

 

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A year on from the Brexit referendum Britain feels like Lord Glasgow’s castle.

A year on from the Brexit referendum and there are still at least 17,410,742 people extremely happy with the way things are going, walking around in the summer sunshine happy and content that Britain had finally regained her independence from an undemocratic, corrupt, economically sclerotic and expensive superstate.

But just as serious is the blow to Britain’s global standing, which is lower than it has been at any time since the Suez crisis in 1956, when America crushed Anthony Eden’s attempt to reassert British power in Egypt.

Where's the evidence for this? I would say Britain was in a far more parlous state back in the dark, Socialism-ridden days of the 1970s, with blackouts, the Three-Day Week and the Winter of Discontent.

it will no longer be part of the EU’s decision-making apparatus.

Because that's what the British people voted for - to be just like Canada, Japan, Jamaica, Chad and most other countries.

Theresa May is now routinely asked to leave meetings when EU business is discussed.

Why does that surprise the author so much? The British people voted to LEAVE the EU.

Britain is leaving the EU at a time when its relations with the United States are perilous.

The half-British Anglophile Trump is very much supportive of Brexit and, even if he wasn't, he's just going to have to get used to it. This is something the world is to face forever more.

A survey of 37 countries by the Pew Research Centre found that just 22% of people thought that Mr Trump would “do the right thing” in international affairs. Barack Obama scored 64% in the final year of his presidency.

What's "doing the right thing" in international affairs? Surely that is merely a matter of one's own personal opinion.

What of the third pillar? The Brexiteers’ strongest card is that they are globalists. Untethered from Europe’s rotting corpse, they argue, Britain will be free to engage with the emerging world. Yet there is no evidence that British companies were held back from this by EU membership. The EU hasn’t prevented Germany’s Mittelstand companies from becoming global powerhouses.

No mention of the fact that, within the EU, Britain isn't able to choose which countries to trade with, as independent, sovereign states like Canada are able to do. The EU has uts own single trade policy. When Britain becomes sovereign once again she will set up her own trading relationships like most other sovereign states do.

The reverse might be the case: emerging countries are interested above all in access to the EU’s market of 500m people.

There might be more up-and-coming emerging countries in the world were it not for the fact that the EU is impoverishing millions of Africans

Instead, the EU is in its best shape in years

Apart from Brexit and one or two other matters.

As for The Economist: Its economic predictions are notoriously nearly always wrong.

 

[Murphy]

A child trying to understand the grownups. BL, put your shoes and coat on and go home to mommy.

 

[Danbones]

How is that negotiation style working for you dearie?

Cookie stash count on the way up?

 

[Bar Sinister]

Let's hope that brilliant move turns out better than the snap election she called.

 

[MHz]

Those Brits always did have a hard time to committing to they finishing what they start. About like a weekend heroin addict, total fear of commitment.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

You didn't really believe that the Brexit negotiations were merely going to be two years of the greatest country on Earth meekly accepting every EU demand, did you? Negotiations often aren't friendly in nature and May lookalike she will be tough.

May has said for months that if the EU doesn't play to Britain's tune and keeps making offers that are bad for Britain then Britain will simply walk away from the negotiations: "No deal is better than a bad deal." And it's such a stance which puts Britain in a strong position and could see Britain quit the EU by the end of the year.

I hope so.