* The* Odd Bodkin* post said:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... IswrWd65cs
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a)*The fields / waves* extend over ALL space and time.
They don't live IN space and time like particles.
They are part of the fabric OF space and time.
b) There are ''ripples'' =** field quanta = "fundamental particles'' in these fields,
which have behavior constrained by symmetries of nature.
c) '' the idea of "things"/ particles moving through space and time
has become* REPLACED* with the idea of fields that extend everywhere,
and the ripples in them that are bestowed with small amounts of action.''
d) ''* . . . electromagnetic charge* is not some kind of "stuff" that belongs to
"things"; instead, charge is just defined as that tendency for a given
pair of fields to interact and create ripples in each other.
This idea needs more symmetries of nature (local gauge symmetries).''
e) ''What's astonishing about this is that physicists now believe that the
fundamental thing that physics is about is the interaction, not the object.
And rather than physical laws, physicists now think of symmetries as
the fundamental constraint. ''
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So, at first physicists use waves and math symmetries to understand situation.
And . . .** EM waves can create . . .* ''charge'', ''ripples'' / particles.
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My opinion.
We don't drink H2O, We drink water, particles of water.
We cannot replace water on H2O and be quenched.
Oceanic waves consists of particles.
Without these particles we don't have waves / water.
The same story is with energy fields / EM waves.
Maxwell's EM waves and Lorentz electron /force are one complete theory.
Without electrons there aren't waves.
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But until today we don't know what electron is.
We* don't know why the electron has six ( 6 ) formulas
* ** E=h*f** and** e^2=ah*c ,
* * +E=Mc^2** and** -E=Mc^2 ,
* ** E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV** and** E= ∞
An electron obey five Laws :
a) The Law of conservation and transformation energy/ mass
b) The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle / Law
c) The Pauli Exclusion Principle/ Law
d) Dirac - Fermi statistic
e) Maxwell - Lorentz EM theory.
We don't know: what are interactions between these formulas and laws.
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Robert A. Millikan, in his Nobel speech* ( 1923) said,
that he knew nothing about “ last essence of electron”
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* Feynman wrote about electron :
“ It is important to realize that in physics today,
we have no knowledge of what energy is.
We do not have a picture that energy comes in little
blobs of a definite amount. “
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Therefore the situation with electron is similar to an old Indian story:
''what is an elephant ?''
One blind man touched the elephant’s foot and said elephant is like a column
Other blind man touched the elephant’s tail and said elephant looks like a snake
The third one touched the elephant’s stomach and said elephant is like a ball
The . . . . . . .. . .
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The electron was '' touched''* in different experiments from different sides
but it seems that our knowledge of an electron is similar to the * blind – knowledge*
of elephant from this old Indian proverb.
As somebody wrote: ''We know electron by what it does, not by what it is''
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https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... IswrWd65cs
===========
a)*The fields / waves* extend over ALL space and time.
They don't live IN space and time like particles.
They are part of the fabric OF space and time.
b) There are ''ripples'' =** field quanta = "fundamental particles'' in these fields,
which have behavior constrained by symmetries of nature.
c) '' the idea of "things"/ particles moving through space and time
has become* REPLACED* with the idea of fields that extend everywhere,
and the ripples in them that are bestowed with small amounts of action.''
d) ''* . . . electromagnetic charge* is not some kind of "stuff" that belongs to
"things"; instead, charge is just defined as that tendency for a given
pair of fields to interact and create ripples in each other.
This idea needs more symmetries of nature (local gauge symmetries).''
e) ''What's astonishing about this is that physicists now believe that the
fundamental thing that physics is about is the interaction, not the object.
And rather than physical laws, physicists now think of symmetries as
the fundamental constraint. ''
* #
So, at first physicists use waves and math symmetries to understand situation.
And . . .** EM waves can create . . .* ''charge'', ''ripples'' / particles.
=====================
My opinion.
We don't drink H2O, We drink water, particles of water.
We cannot replace water on H2O and be quenched.
Oceanic waves consists of particles.
Without these particles we don't have waves / water.
The same story is with energy fields / EM waves.
Maxwell's EM waves and Lorentz electron /force are one complete theory.
Without electrons there aren't waves.
#
But until today we don't know what electron is.
We* don't know why the electron has six ( 6 ) formulas
* ** E=h*f** and** e^2=ah*c ,
* * +E=Mc^2** and** -E=Mc^2 ,
* ** E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV** and** E= ∞
An electron obey five Laws :
a) The Law of conservation and transformation energy/ mass
b) The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle / Law
c) The Pauli Exclusion Principle/ Law
d) Dirac - Fermi statistic
e) Maxwell - Lorentz EM theory.
We don't know: what are interactions between these formulas and laws.
================================.
Robert A. Millikan, in his Nobel speech* ( 1923) said,
that he knew nothing about “ last essence of electron”
#
* Feynman wrote about electron :
“ It is important to realize that in physics today,
we have no knowledge of what energy is.
We do not have a picture that energy comes in little
blobs of a definite amount. “
===============
Therefore the situation with electron is similar to an old Indian story:
''what is an elephant ?''
One blind man touched the elephant’s foot and said elephant is like a column
Other blind man touched the elephant’s tail and said elephant looks like a snake
The third one touched the elephant’s stomach and said elephant is like a ball
The . . . . . . .. . .
=============.
The electron was '' touched''* in different experiments from different sides
but it seems that our knowledge of an electron is similar to the * blind – knowledge*
of elephant from this old Indian proverb.
As somebody wrote: ''We know electron by what it does, not by what it is''
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