BIOFUELS: Making jet fuel out of garbage -- a first

[mentalfloss]

Are you seriously going to continue at this Gr. 5 level?

 

[petros]

If It requires stooping to your level, that's what it requires.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

"What we get from that is a very pure, high-quality fuel," said Counsell, at the Advanced Biofuels Leadership Conference in National Harbor, Md., Wednesday. Turning trash into fuel yields twice the energy that incinerating the waste for electricity would provide, he added. Recent life-cycle analyses indicate that the fuel could reduce greenhouse gas emissions by up to 95 percent compared to fossil fuels, said Counsell. This doesn't include the avoided methane emissions -- a gas with 30 times the global warming potential of carbon dioxide -- that result from trash decomposing in a landfill.

How much energy will we have to use to extract it?

 

[mentalfloss]

Enough for it to be considered a commercially viable option.

 

[petros]

How much energy will we have to use to extract it?

It takes rampant consumerism and waste to make the garbage to make fuel from.

 

[mentalfloss]

There will always be enough waste, even if it isn't rampant.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Enough for it to be considered a commercially viable option.

I'm sort of skeptical, the refining process isn't a matter of taking a dump in someones tank. It would be nice, but I'm guessing this is a very expensive pet project on the part of someone with a budget.

 

[mentalfloss]

If you read the article, they've already stated it's expensive at this stage.

 

[petros]

There will always be enough waste, even if it isn't rampant.

Not when it's already being sold off to make electricity, compost or heat in the vast majority of cities. This won't save the planet or even put a dent in fossil fuel consumption.

 

[mentalfloss]

Over the long term we will be using renewables more and fossil fuels less.

 

[petros]

We will or you hope we will?

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

So another expensive pet project that will go nowhere.

 

[mentalfloss]

You mean like Keystone?

So sorry for your loss.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

You mean like Keystone?

Okay, explain how Keystone won't be cost effective. This should be good.

You mean like Keystone?

So sorry for your loss.

And its not my loss. I transport fuel for a living. More fuel to be transported as I see it.

 

[petros]

Keystone is already piping heavy oil to the US for the past 6years. How many dead so far?

 

[mentalfloss]

It's an expensive project that's going nowhere.

I never said it wouldn't be a profitable one - if it went somewhere.

 

[petros]

See above.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

It's an expensive project that's going nowhere.

I never said it wouldn't be a profitable one - if it went somewhere.

Which are you referring too? Keystone or Poop Fuel?

 

[mentalfloss]

Keystone XL is not going anywhere.

Sorry for your loss.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Sorry for your loss.

You keep saying that. Keystone is no loss to me. The fuel will always get where it needs to go. A Super B can haul between 48,000 and 54,000 liters and that's good business. At a burn rate of around 6 miles per gallon, it's a win win for transport.