Better off under Saddam

[Said1]

Actually, I see the US having problems as states begin to form coaltions, abandoning institutions in persuit of their self-interests.

 

[jimmoyer]

The separate states of the United States have far
lesser separationist issues than say Alberta or Quebec
with their federal government.

Provincial independence is far more an issue
than the institutionalized leeway given States who have specific representation in the national congress, equal to each other state, a matter lacking for each individual
Province in Canada.

Although this immigration issue in the states is
getting Governors to act on their own while the
federal congress debates the complexity of it all.

Even Governors acting on their own is quite more
independent power than each Province has, I suggest.

Sincerely yours, Said1
he said in pontificating fashion.

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Better off under Saddam

Sincerely yours, Said1
he said in pontificating fashion.

Why would you speak to me in a pompous and/or dogmatic fashion. Was is something that I said? Perhaps you could elaborate for the sake of discussion.

 

[jimmoyer]

It was a stupid afterthought on my part describing
my own stilted language. Nothing on you at all.
It was a throwaway statement off the cuff. Sincerely.

 

[Said1]

As you were then.

 

[JoeyB]

RE: Better off under Sadd

I think he might still be nervous, as you've not holstered your pistol

 

[zoofer]

ALL these failures, however, represent a form of progress. When all is said and done, Iraq today is a better place than it ever was under Saddam Hussein. Had the despot not been chased away, there could be no discussion of the strengths and weaknesses of the Iraqi democratic experience so far. There would have been no such experience to start with.

Iranian author Amir Taheri is a member of Benador Associates.

This item is available on the Benador Associates website, at http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/19406

Saddamites should pay more attention to the experts on the ground.

 

[missile]

The good ole USA was far better off as a country when Saddam ran Iraq. Let's see you spindoctors deny this!

 

[Jay]

Life was better under Saddam, I suggest we ship all the fringe left elements that make me want to puke by even advocating such an idea, to a deserted island, they can have Saddam as their King.

Then everybody is happy.

Now there's a government program I can support!

 

[aeon]

According to John Pace, former director of the human rights office of the UN Assistance Mission for Iraq, "Under Saddam, if you agreed to forgo your basic right to freedom of expression and thought, you were physically more or less OK. But now, no. Here, you have a primitive, chaotic situation where anybody can do anything they want to anyone."

That one was a doozy. But I digress.

Life was better under Saddam, unless of course you were a prostitute, in which case your punishment would be beheading.

Life was better under Saddam, unless of course you were a relative, in which case you dissapeared.

Life was better under Saddam, unless of course you were one of 13 million Shi'a Muslims, which faced severe restrictions on their religious practice, including a ban on communal Friday prayer, and restriction on funeral processions.

Life was better under Saddam, unless you were part of the 1991 uprising and you were amongst the 250,000 dead.

Life was better under Saddam, unless you were a Kurd, in which case you get rained on with chemical weapons.

Life was better under Saddam, unless of course you happen to fall under Saddam's 988 campaign of terror against the Kurds that killed at least 50,000.

Life was better under Saddam, I suggest we ship all the fringe left elements that make me want to puke by even advocating such an idea, to a deserted island, they can have Saddam as their King.

Then everybody is happy.

That is true, saddam killed even more it was around 185 000 kurds, not 50 000 thousands, nearly a millions of iranies were killed, during iran-iraq war, lets not forget it.

After all saddam was a son of a bitch, but it is still not a good reason to go in iraq blindly and do what the coalition of the ignorant did.Saddam did a lot of bad thing to iraqies, certainly more than the coalition, but it is just still bad.

 

[sanch]

One point left unsaid here is that the US has every intention of leaving Iraq and the oil fields to Iraqis. The invasion was quick but the transition to democracy was very inept and this is why the US is still in Iraq. There are still innocents being killed by US fire but the vast majority of killing is between the insurgents, Sunnis and Shites. The US can’t leave because of the blood bath that would ensue.

These are the casualty numbers for Iraq over the last 2 years.

http://icasualties.org/oif/

 

[Toro]

RE: Better off under Sadd

Despite all this yacking about whether or not life is better in Iraq now than under Saddam, what you are talking about is one part of Iraq which comprises 4 or 5 provinces, which is where most of the casualties are taking place. There isn't much going on in the north under the Kurds, and in the south where the Shi'a are predominant.

 

[aeon]

One point left unsaid here is that the US has every intention of leaving Iraq and the oil fields to Iraqis. The invasion was quick but the transition to democracy was very inept and this is why the US is still in Iraq. There are still innocents being killed by US fire but the vast majority of killing is between the insurgents, Sunnis and Shites. The US can’t leave because of the blood bath that would ensue.

These are the casualty numbers for Iraq over the last 2 years.

http://icasualties.org/oif/

Not at all, us will not leave iraq, for the next 30 years, and the oil field are operated by 4 oil coorporations, exxon, chevron, BP, Shell, buying it at a ridicoulus price of 1$a barrel (which is giving to iraqies, to reconstruct what the barbarian destroyed in those wars and sanctions) and selling it at an incredible price to the europeen, where in texas it cost more than 10$ a barrel to produce, wow i am impress guys, really.