Best for America II - McCain or Obama

Kreskin

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McCain or Obama, who is the best candidate to lead America and why?
 

quandary121

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Not sure. If he does I hope he picks a religious zealot for VP.

Well according to a fox news report on a yt video fringe candidates like bob bar could step down,so that a major third party candidate can step in,something that has not been seen since ross paro and they guys name that's being banded about most often is a guy who had a huge convention and following himself in minasota former republican candidate Ron Paul but Ron Pauls not saying he wants to keep it as a surprise until tomorrow he say its not going to be quite that dramatic he's gonna stick to his guns he says he has no intention or plans to run in the fall also but he doe's want to make a statement obviously or he wouldn't be holding the press conference which is going to be dealing with other candidates and what he thinks is the problem in the country and which direction he alt to go so if people are interested and are listening they should tune in,but hes saving a little bit of suspense until tomorrow,he says he will have a candidate or two there but whether it will have an effect on the election he says he would not be the one to predict that,he says hes worked on this and has strong views and beliefs and says there is one or two people out there that care so he's going to make an announcement and that will come tomorrow .!!! does it involve bob barr, ron paul says he may attended ron paul says the system is so bias against us getting on the ballot and right now would be too late you would have to be ross paro with a billion dollars in order to do that, this is part of the complaint that he will be expressing tomorrow Texas Congressman Ron Paul was grilled by Fox news host Neil Cavuto about a possible 4th party candidacy for president, involving either Bob Barr, Pastor Chuck Baldwin or JESSE 'THE BODY' Ventura...It seemes that Fox News was trying to scoop the other media outlets by trying to trick Congressman Paul to reveal the subject of his press conference tomorrow..Tomorrows press conference has been touted as a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT for Ron Paul and his Campaign for Liberty..There is no doubt that the establishment has been ringing their hands in anticipation of this event
 

talloola

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McCain. He brings in experience.
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That experience is 'negative', as all of bushes experience, and all of the war experience,
as laying around as a prisoner of war, isn't a prerequisite for being president.
He has flip flopped on many issues over the last year, so that he would look good as
a republican running for president.

Obama brings in... um... nothing.
he has a head full of intelligence and ideas, give him a chance to use them, he doesn't
come with baggage, but a clean slate, and a fresh start, that is what the american people
need.
 
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talloola

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Total speculation.

Ron Paul won't split the Republican vote.. but he may run as an independent in four years. :angry3:

In the campaigning for the leader, ron Paul was the voice of reason and common sense,
and showed the republicans all of their faults, and all of their mistakes they have made
over the years, it's only too bad he has such a whiny voice, or else more people would
be attracted to him. He's a good man, and would make a good leader. He won many of
the republican leadership debates.
 

YoungJoonKim

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In the campaigning for the leader, ron Paul was the voice of reason and common sense,
and showed the republicans all of their faults, and all of their mistakes they have made
over the years, it's only too bad he has such a whiny voice, or else more people would
be attracted to him. He's a good man, and would make a good leader. He won many of
the republican leadership debates.

No, he "qwned" them by a modern definition.
Other than that, your right.

It is truly sad how Republicans abandoned their old policy of freedom when the history of America truly began which we know as "The Constitution." Dr. Paul raised so many mistakes and issues America today is making and he continues to do so. I'm not conservative or republican but so far, he is the most attractive AND intelligent politician I've EVER seen in my short life. I wish him the best luck and good future ahead.
 

Zzarchov

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Ok, Obama is still a politician.

Its not like he did all his political manueverings at random, he still has mentors (one of them being Hillary Clinton, part of the bitterness), he still gets his funding and favours from the same places as everyone else.

He may be a good guy, he may be a better president, he may bring in change, but he still has his debts and favours.
 

B00Mer

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Obama brings in what the cons are now running on......change.

That kind of change is not what America needs.

He is a far left socialist (communist) sympathizer. In many of obama's electoral offices national flag of Cuba is hanging on the wall with Che Guevara proudly displayed on it.

Che Guevara was responsible for thousands of deaths.

He has know associates who are terrorists.

If some people really want that kind of change, then they should move to Cuba and leave their passport behind.
 

Kreskin

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Are the Feds now communist sympathizers for taking over Fanny and Freddie, half of the mortgages in the country?
 

lone wolf

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That kind of change is not what America needs.

He is a far left socialist (communist) sympathizer. In many of obama's electoral offices national flag of Cuba is hanging on the wall with Che Guevara proudly displayed on it.

Che Guevara was responsible for thousands of deaths.

He has know associates who are terrorists.

If some people really want that kind of change, then they should move to Cuba and leave their passport behind.
...and you, of course, have something to back your words up?
 

Kreskin

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...and you, of course, have something to back your words up?
As soon as he's elected he will foreclose on or call in all the Freddie and Fanny mortgages. The government will become the national landlord, creating tenancy agreements that ban guns on all their properties. Some will be converted into abortion factories, while others will house nationalized union healthcare staff. Tenants will be required to burn bibles. Oh, and George Bush will be sent to Iraq for the one-man surge.
 

I think not

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I'm going to vote for Obama, even though I believe I can live with McCain, unless he goes completely neo-con if he is elected, which I highly doubt.

I do not agree with everything Obama has said, but I don't believe the man to be a demagogue, I feel he truly believes he can effect change. That's why I am voting for him, period.