Belinda Stronach appointed to Cabinet

[bluealberta]

With all due respect, Ranger, check out the thread about health care by I Think Not, a US citizen who employs people and knows about how the system works down there.

I know many people in the US, and we compare our costs to their costs, and at the end of the day, the difference is minimal, but the the wait times in the US are non existent. There are many factors involved in Health Care and again, please read the thread that was posted by someone with on the ground information. What was interesting was that this thread,although viewed, was not responded to by the people who slam the US health care system.

Later.

 

[zenfisher]

With all due respect to ITN...he knows how the system works in New York. There are fifty states all provide different level coverage while working within the federal program.

S Ranger is right. Free clinics require income statements and proof of income to set rates that they will charge. This does not include any kind of fees for consultation that may be required. ( Although it is prorated based on...you guessed it... income.) At least this is how it works in Washington.( State not DC)

As for wait times...if your rich or you have a decent medical plan ...yes your wait times are diminished. This is not true of the persons receiving "free" service. Although they are somewhat faster than Canada, there are still delays.

I admit I viewed the thread, for a while, but considered it to be a mutual admiration thread and proceeded onto other topics.

 

[Derry McKinney]

Think maybe Belinda escaped the clutches of the Conservatives because she saw the party was being taken over by religious zealots?

Ottawa — Christian activists have secured Conservative nominations in clusters of ridings from Vancouver to Halifax -- a political penetration that has occurred even as the party tries to distance itself from hard-line social conservatism.

At least three riding associations in Nova Scotia, four in British Columbia, and one in suburban Toronto have nominated candidates with ties to groups like Focus on the Family, a Christian organization that opposes same-sex marriage.

But organizers say many more will be on the ballot during the next federal election, a feat achieved by persuading parishioners, particularly new Canadians, to join the party and vote for recommended candidates.

 

[no1important]

RE: Belinda Stronach appo

Think maybe Belinda escaped the clutches of the Conservatives because she saw the party was being taken over by religious zealots?

I think that was the case. It would be scarey if those people were to get elected and have an majority. We would have an administration like Bush.........and that would not be good.

 

[Derry McKinney]

RE: Belinda Stronach appo

That would be very bad indeed. Next thing they'd be taking evolution out of Alberta schools and outlawing sex toys in Saskatchewan.

 

[mrmom2]

It would be like Bush times 2 if those phsyco's got in :x

 

[Derry McKinney]

RE: Belinda Stronach appo

And we'd have to invade the outer Hebrides.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: Belinda Stronach appo

And we'd have to invade the outer Hebrides.

Don't worry, Manitoba is safe, nobody would invade you. Too bad when being religous is an evil thing in todays political climate in Canada. :twisted:

 

[Derry McKinney]

RE: Belinda Stronach appo

Nobody cares if you are religious, it's people entering politics with the goal of inflicting their religion on others that is the problem.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: Belinda Stronach appo

Nobody cares if you are religious, it's people entering politics with the goal of inflicting their religion on others that is the problem.

Everybody who enters politics tries to inflict other people with their beliefs and values, whether it be religious, social, monetary, or policy. For instance, if you were to enter politics to try and get your viewpoints inflicted on me, I would find that offensive, but I would never try and stop you from entering politics. I may campaign against you, but I would not try and stop you from running. You have the right to your opinions and beliefs, just as the religious community does, and if they choose to run for politics to further their viewpoints, then anyone is free to run against them. What they are not free to do is to continually lie and distort their viewpoints. Too many of the left take the view that if your are religious, you are extreme, which is totally ridiculous.

 

[Derry McKinney]

RE: Belinda Stronach appo

The thing is that my viewpoints would cause you no difficulty. I wouldn't force you to get married to somebody of the same sex. I wouldn't force your wife to have an abortion. I wouldn't even force you to breathe the nice, clean air.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: Belinda Stronach appo

The thing is that my viewpoints would cause you no difficulty. I wouldn't force you to get married to somebody of the same sex. I wouldn't force your wife to have an abortion. I wouldn't even force you to breathe the nice, clean air.

And none of the conservative policies would either.

Speaking of air, a report was just issued on lead contamination in North America, and the top three offenders:

#1: Quebec
#2: Ontario
#3: Manitoba.

The reason? Highly inefficient old factories with old technology.

And, yes, the air in Alberta is nice and clean, but you can't have any!! 8) :roll: :twisted:

 

[Derry McKinney]

RE: Belinda Stronach appo

See...those provinces should put me in charge.

Nice attempt at dodging the issue, BTW. Perhaps you switch things up and try to Chrysler it for a change. ;-)

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: Belinda Stronach appo

See...those provinces should put me in charge.

Nice attempt at dodging the issue, BTW. Perhaps you switch things up and try to Chrysler it for a change. ;-)

You mentioned nice clean air, I thought you might want to know the truth about your air :twisted: :wink:

 

[Derry McKinney]

RE: Belinda Stronach appo

I know the truth about my air. What you have no clue about is how it got that way or what people are doing about it.

Why don't you try dealing with the issue at hand instead evading it. Your party is being taken over by religious zealots again. Their goal is to force their relgion on the rest of us. You support them. You support them taking rights away from the rest of us.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: Belinda Stronach appo

I know the truth about my air. What you have no clue about is how it got that way or what people are doing about it.

Well tell me then, I am interested in how Manitoba is one of the three highest emitters of lead pollution in North America, right behind Ontario and Quebec.

Why don't you try dealing with the issue at hand instead evading it. Your party is being taken over by religious zealots again. Their goal is to force their relgion on the rest of us. You support them. You support them taking rights away from the rest of us.

First of all, there is no issue, because I dispute your zealot claim. Just because someone is religious does not make them a zealot. Secondly, I support the conservative party, yes, much better and easier than supporting an unprincipled, lying, stealing, corrupt party, or one that supports that party.

Thirdly, no one is advocating taking away rights, get in the real world. Your continual saying that does not make it so, except in your mind and people who believe your drivel.

 

[Derry McKinney]

RE: Belinda Stronach appo

The Conservatives SSM policy would take away rights. You advocate that.

You also need to learn the difference between normal religious people, which there are plenty of on the left, and the freaks that your party invites in.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: Belinda Stronach appo

The Conservatives SSM policy would take away rights. You advocate that.

You also need to learn the difference between normal religious people, which there are plenty of on the left, and the freaks that your party invites in.

So now any religious person on the right is a freak? That is unbelievable, that arrogant attitude. It must be nice to be out on that island of perfection you are on. And there are no legal rights or benefits denied anyone by maintaining the definition of marriage as a union between a man and a woman. All legal rights and benefits under a SS union are the same as that under a traditional marriage. But then you know that already, just as you know I support SS unions.

 

[Derry McKinney]

So now any religious person on the right is a freak?

Nope, somebody seeking political office with the goal of forcing their religious beliefs on others is a freak.

And there are no legal rights or benefits denied anyone by maintaining the definition of marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

Except the right to marry. Hmmm...that strikes me as a pretty basic right.

 

[bluealberta]

So now any religious person on the right is a freak?

Nope, somebody seeking political office with the goal of forcing their religious beliefs on others is a freak.

How about somebody with the goal of forcing their socialistic and social engineering beliefs on others? Like the NDP? That is the real definition of freaks.

And there are no legal rights or benefits denied anyone by maintaining the definition of marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

Except the right to marry. Hmmm...that strikes me as a pretty basic right.

No legal rights or benefits change.